Spyke
startrek.website

If it's publicly accessible it's scrape-able. He already tried to make tweets not publicly accessible and look how long that lasted.

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olympicyesreply
lemmy.world

It’s not even clear that it’s illegal to scrape publicly available data, so I don’t know what the TOS would be enforcing.

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sh.itjust.works

It didn't have to be illegal for them to sue you for violating its policies. It would be a civil suit for damages.

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Eranzielreply
lemmy.world

Lol, then they would have to demonstrate that there were damages. The worst a TOS violation will get you is a ban.

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kometesreply
lemmy.world

It's still a billionaire suing you for those peanuts.

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Unfortunately, they have more money to blow on legal fees. The threat of a suit is enough to keep most perks from fucking around and finding out.

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Would it be violating policy if the scrapper only took the public data and never actually signed the ToS since they didn't make an account?

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It's not publicly available anymore. If you're not logged in you don't see anything anymore except tweets you have a direct link to. Even then you don't see any replies and the amount of tweets per day you can see is limited.

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Yep, would never remember on the odd occasions I would look at Twitter, then just leave the site after being prompted to login

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Lol this has the same energy as those NFT idiots crying about people taking screenshots of their stupid monkeys.

Noooo, stop scraping my dataaaa!

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And the next generation of AI probably only needs a fraction of the data it needs now so the need to scrape the data is gone.

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lemmy.world

I hope someone makes some manic bot that scrapes every last tweet and posts it on a duplicate site call Y

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lemmy.world

Might as well go whole hog and do the entire alphabet. Then do one for every iteration of every letter combination.

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He's still mad at those researchers for scraping the data that shows that ever since he took over, the antisemitism, racism and general bigotry has gone up on the platform.

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lemmy.ml

I’m pretty sure both parties must agree to the terms before they legally bind anyone so wouldn’t this just apply to logged in users?

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lemmynsfw.com

Accessing the website is often viewed as accepting the terms, so that wouldn't hold up. Not that they'd have a legal standpoint on the issue.

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lemmy.world

Accessing the website is often viewed as accepting the terms

The scraping bot can't read the terms

But even if it could, it wouldn't give a damn :-)

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xavier666reply
lemm.ee

They don't have to enforce it. If someone says bad things about Twitter by analysing their content, Twitter can sue them scraping.

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This is hilariously unenforceable as long as Twitter is on the public internet.

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I thought this was an article about the X Windows system based on the preview for the article. Boy are those two similar-looking.

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Realistically, very little people know about x windows system even less care about it.

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Took a look at their robots.txt, it appears to block all bots except Google.

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lemmy.fmhy.net

When Elon bought Twitter I was hopeful- I strongly believe the world needs an open, free-speech based, 'public square'. The problem with the Internet right now is many 'public squares' are privately owned, and those private companies cater to advertisers more than users.

Sadly I don't think it's worked out that well. I think Twitter is probably better off than they were, but you can't have a public square without openness. And while Twitter/X is now more free, it's also less open.

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ruckblackreply
sh.itjust.works

"more free" my dude people who pay $8 per month get their replies boosted up above everyone else. What are you talking about?

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SirEDCaLotreply
lemmy.fmhy.net

More free in that the moderation doesn't have a bias. I think any bias is harmful, be it Left or Right leaning. I much prefer the current approach of fact checking posts with community notes over hiding posts that are deemed undesirable.

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