Go Away Microsoft! The Netherlands is Quietly Building Its Own GitHub Replacement
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.nz/post/37348943
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I just finished installing forgejo in my homelab, I'm really liking it so far.
Same! I set up an instance a few weeks ago and genuinely love it, they’re also working on federation via ActivityPub, so one day all of the instances can communicate!
ForgeJo is pretty nice.
I mean it's Go and not package managed properly in distros, but as a services to run it's nice.
Use the container version. Why would you install it directly anyway? Forgejo is definitely the way to go. When Fedora Project announced they were moving to it, that legitimized it for me. You know it will receive support for a while with them using it.
It's so easy, why bother? But I have each service in a separate small Debian VM to avoid conflicts. This avoids conflicts, enforces limits, and gives kernel separation. The real kernel isn't running anything public.
Because of all the other reasons containers are great. Mainly, avoiding maintaining a fleet of VMs...
Containers are often used as a way to not have to keep things up to date, or install properly. Don't have to be, but often are. Also, not have a separate kernel means you aren't protected from things like the recent exploits when you allow things uploaded to run. Maintaining Debian Stable is easy really. Love me some Debian. 😀
That's misusing containers. You do you.
What's wrong with Go?
I don't like GC languages. Things written in them often seam to be written like they are the only thing that matter on a system. Thus don't play well with each other in regards to memory consumption. Memory is not an all you can eat and clean up later. Yes there are environment variables you can use to enforce better behaviour, but that's a fail. Rewrites into Rust seam to solve this, but I know reason is really that Rust is the new cool thing and programmers like rewrite things, but I'll take the win.
Also, I don't like static linking. It doesn't scale. When a library has a vulnerability, it means everything needs rebuilding. It also means you have lots of duplicates of those libs at different versions. It's a mess I hoped had died of decades ago.
Also, I don't like languages each having their own half maintained package manager that is their language only. Just put in the work and get into root distros like Debian, Fedora, etc. Maintain a stable version you back port security fixes to. Only trustworthy packages get in. All languages under one roof.
Also, I don't like languages that orbit an American tech monopoly.
Also, I think Go is failure and in legacy mode and largely replaced by Rust.
Basically, Go often makes me grumpy. ForgeJo is an exception. I also like a lot of what Codeberg say and do.
It triggers me with things I also didn't like in other things of the past.
Interesting opinion. Thank you.
Great to hear!
Some other European alternatives: https://www.sustysubs.net/categories/version-control-service/
Awesome source, thank you!
there are open source github alternatives! you dont need to develop private and centralized alternative
https://codeberg.org/ https://forgejo.org/
How to tell you didn't read the article at all, without saying so...
The title is a bit misleading, though.
Doesn't matter, don't comment if you can't be bothered to read the article. The first paragraph clearly states they want to use an existing solution. So don't shout before you think.
Both can be true at the same time.
I didnt read my comment spesifically regarding to the post , I wrote the comment as a knowledge and reminder regardless what it says in article. if doesnt matter if it is advocate same or opposite