that's not how this works!! it's silly to assume all other species reach maturity at the same point proportional to their average lifespan! almost as silly as to assume all species reach maturity after the same absolute time.
Well this is RPG memes and 100 is when an elf is considered an adult in DnD so
That is how it works (legally and culturally)
Of course it's also a medievalish world and they didn't care that it ruined brain development. I guess you might argue that dwarves and elves would though, particularly since a brain damaged drunken youth is going to be a problem for a lot longer
I think the general consensus is that it's elven society that considers 100 the age of maturity. Elves grow to adulthood at the same rate as humans, but the knowledge and worldly experience they must gain is what elves see as being an adult.
So, a 73 year old elf would be more than able to drink responsibly
Except that the elf's parents likely wouldn't care. If we're going with D&D generic lore as our base, elves typically are on their own(ish) from physical maturity around 20 and on. They simply flit about with different projects and teachers until around 100.
We don't know what the alcohol content of the drink is, as when alcoholic drinks were the standard they were much lower AC than today's (on average), nor do we know how impactful alcohol is to elven physiology.
I'm not sure where you got this information, but I'd be interested to see a source. As far as I know in the middle ages beers and ales were brewed using the same mash multiple times leading to varying strengths ranging from 10-12% for the first batch to very little alcohol ~1% from the third batch. And of course there were also various types of wines available. Children drank only the weak beer, but there was definitely high alcohol content drinks available.
Just gonna point out, like I did the last time this comic was posted, that she's wearing a hoodie and holding a smartphone. This isn't a medievalish world.
At one of my LARPs, we use German for Dwarvish. Given that somehow, Dwarves are a niche race, German language proficiency doesn't come into play with a frequency that would, say, make accents relevant. However, in discussions with someone who is quite linguistically and culturally in tune with German speakers, we now can't agree on whether we'd have the accent be Swiss, Austrian, Bavarian or Ruhr German
Maybe 21 <=> 100 is just the easiest cross over point between the two age scales. Its easier to remember than 18 <=> 85.5 or 16 <=> 76.2 so that's where they start. They arrive at an equivalent age of 15 and deem that to young. No information was ever given about what the age of legal drinking is. Just that it is older than 15.
Also dwarven ale might be straight schnaps with 80% alcohol for all we know. Don't want 16 year olds drinking that even if you think beer is fine.
There was a short form video I saw somewhere about how bartenders in fantasy universes gotta have a thick handbook with every species' legal drinking age listed
Actually, good point, fantasy doesn't equal medieval. In fact, a lot of the fantasy universes I've encountered in fiction are closer to post-apocalypse (ancient magic artefacts of long lost prosperous civilization, forgotten secrets of the arcane arts and so on).
Drinking age varies by country, in Australia it's 18, maybe she just wanted to check how far it was and would have let it slide at a point before 100 depending on the equivalent.
Modern urban grimdark fantasy is a reflection of our modern urban grimdark reality. Writing hopeful fiction in a modern setting requires a much more vivid imagination.
Ravnica isn't grimdark? Exploding gang warfare goblins, angels that lead crusades against small sins, a festering sin imprisoned beneath the world? Cancerous growths that hold the last nature a city dweller might have a chance of seeing, but will lead to your skull being added to the growing staff's power?
Maybe it's not 40k levels of wanking grimdark, but it's not a very nice place.
Well, my exposure to the setting was the aforementioned podcasts Bylaw and Order and Under Torchlight by the LRR group.
In the first, a group of food safety bureaucrats have to get guild signatures to codify the life's work of their boss, a unified standard for sausage composition. Typical D&D hyjinks ensue, like a jail break, stopping a haywire college thesis project from exploding, etc. In Under Torchlight, a group of food service workers have to keep the shop running in spite of a shipping delay, criminal dealings, and guild infighting.
Both podcasts are very lighthearted and show that the setting is fertile for telling modern stories with a fantasy twist, aided by the rich details of the setting. I'm sure other stories focus on the dark parts.
Fair enough. I think any 'realistic' setting is going to have a large enough world that you can find anything you'd like in it, and the various ways that M:tG makes wackiness in its magic systems leaves a lot of ripe fruit to pick for any story.
In all seriousness I’ve wondered if living that long would actually make you mature slower or at the same rate. It’s like Grogu in the Mandalorian is around 50 but still acts like a toddler.
that's not how this works!! it's silly to assume all other species reach maturity at the same point proportional to their average lifespan! almost as silly as to assume all species reach maturity after the same absolute time.
Well this is RPG memes and 100 is when an elf is considered an adult in DnD so
That is how it works (legally and culturally)
Of course it's also a medievalish world and they didn't care that it ruined brain development. I guess you might argue that dwarves and elves would though, particularly since a brain damaged drunken youth is going to be a problem for a lot longer
I think the general consensus is that it's elven society that considers 100 the age of maturity. Elves grow to adulthood at the same rate as humans, but the knowledge and worldly experience they must gain is what elves see as being an adult.
So, a 73 year old elf would be more than able to drink responsibly
So, just like a human teenager, there's a difference between physical maturity, mental maturity, and the age their brain finishes developing?
Regardless, the threat to call their parents is still valid and players should absolutely do it if they have an elven teenager PC
Except that the elf's parents likely wouldn't care. If we're going with D&D generic lore as our base, elves typically are on their own(ish) from physical maturity around 20 and on. They simply flit about with different projects and teachers until around 100.
I thought elves were a lot more resistant to the effects of alcohol anyway. Elf children could probably drink without issues!
That's just a scene from LotR extended edition, I don't think most settings have this take on elves.
Except if this was how it worked, then elves would be babies for like 10 years before being toddlers for like 30 and teenagers for 50-70 years.
A decade as a toddler? Nah.
I think it's fair to say elves reach maturity almost as quickly, just age slower after reaching maturity. Same with dwarves, etc.
We don't know what the alcohol content of the drink is, as when alcoholic drinks were the standard they were much lower AC than today's (on average), nor do we know how impactful alcohol is to elven physiology.
What attack bonus do you need to reliably hit that drink?
You have to blow THAC0
Instructions unclear, instead have THC-a
I'm not sure where you got this information, but I'd be interested to see a source. As far as I know in the middle ages beers and ales were brewed using the same mash multiple times leading to varying strengths ranging from 10-12% for the first batch to very little alcohol ~1% from the third batch. And of course there were also various types of wines available. Children drank only the weak beer, but there was definitely high alcohol content drinks available.
I'm not sure if I need to provide a source as we're in agreement that on average the AC was lower, which is what I was trying to communicate.
Just gonna point out, like I did the last time this comic was posted, that she's wearing a hoodie and holding a smartphone. This isn't a medievalish world.
I do love the "elves are diapers till age 12" joke though..
And then at age 13 they turn into underwear.
This is catgirl defence :)
Americans will invent a fantasy world, give a character a Scottish accent but still set the drinking age to 21.
Uhhh it's pretty typical for dwarves to sound vaguely Scottish isn't it
That's always irked me. Dwarves are a Germanic myth. They should have Germanic accents.
Wait until you find out where the Pirates' accent comes from.
Pittsburgh.
At one of my LARPs, we use German for Dwarvish. Given that somehow, Dwarves are a niche race, German language proficiency doesn't come into play with a frequency that would, say, make accents relevant. However, in discussions with someone who is quite linguistically and culturally in tune with German speakers, we now can't agree on whether we'd have the accent be Swiss, Austrian, Bavarian or Ruhr German
I'd argue for Ruhr, but only for the associations of mining and industry common to both...
And the drinking age in Scotland is 18
Maybe 21 <=> 100 is just the easiest cross over point between the two age scales. Its easier to remember than 18 <=> 85.5 or 16 <=> 76.2 so that's where they start. They arrive at an equivalent age of 15 and deem that to young. No information was ever given about what the age of legal drinking is. Just that it is older than 15.
Also dwarven ale might be straight schnaps with 80% alcohol for all we know. Don't want 16 year olds drinking that even if you think beer is fine.
There was a short form video I saw somewhere about how bartenders in fantasy universes gotta have a thick handbook with every species' legal drinking age listed
it's a medieval settings, the only limitations for you getting ale is if you have the coin for it
I mean, the local lord might decide they want to be all proper and not sinful and ban children drinking (not working tho, kids yearn for the mines)
sober children will want an education instead, and educated children grow up to be rebellious adults
Not sure if many sober children would want an education. Or drunken, for that matter
no matter. not worth the risk. get them drunk asap
...you say about a comic in which the human character has a hoodie and a cellphone.
Actually, good point, fantasy doesn't equal medieval. In fact, a lot of the fantasy universes I've encountered in fiction are closer to post-apocalypse (ancient magic artefacts of long lost prosperous civilization, forgotten secrets of the arcane arts and so on).
She appears to be a dwarf, but yeah
And honestly it's cleaner than the water in that period.
I know the one you're talking about. Can't find the video, but it's one of the ones of the kiwi dude who reads Tumblr posts. Great concept, honestly
"Should jail sentence time be based on race?" will allways be one of my favourite posts ever.
The correct calculation is is
(<your age> / 2) + 7. Oh wait that's for something else.Wait there was no need to do 21/100*71 and check 15, they could simply compare 71 with 100.
She just secretly wanted to do math!
Drinking age varies by country, in Australia it's 18, maybe she just wanted to check how far it was and would have let it slide at a point before 100 depending on the equivalent.
see this is the setting i want. modern urban fantasy with none of the grimdark that seems to plague the genre.
Modern urban grimdark fantasy is a reflection of our modern urban grimdark reality. Writing hopeful fiction in a modern setting requires a much more vivid imagination.
Ravnica setting is what you want. I suggest the "Bylaw and Order" series!
Ravnica isn't grimdark? Exploding gang warfare goblins, angels that lead crusades against small sins, a festering sin imprisoned beneath the world? Cancerous growths that hold the last nature a city dweller might have a chance of seeing, but will lead to your skull being added to the growing staff's power?
Maybe it's not 40k levels of wanking grimdark, but it's not a very nice place.
Well, my exposure to the setting was the aforementioned podcasts Bylaw and Order and Under Torchlight by the LRR group.
In the first, a group of food safety bureaucrats have to get guild signatures to codify the life's work of their boss, a unified standard for sausage composition. Typical D&D hyjinks ensue, like a jail break, stopping a haywire college thesis project from exploding, etc. In Under Torchlight, a group of food service workers have to keep the shop running in spite of a shipping delay, criminal dealings, and guild infighting.
Both podcasts are very lighthearted and show that the setting is fertile for telling modern stories with a fantasy twist, aided by the rich details of the setting. I'm sure other stories focus on the dark parts.
Fair enough. I think any 'realistic' setting is going to have a large enough world that you can find anything you'd like in it, and the various ways that M:tG makes wackiness in its magic systems leaves a lot of ripe fruit to pick for any story.
the descriptions all seem fairly dry. i wonder if it can be combined with masks...
73! = 4.47011546 x 10^105 seems old enough
Why would a dwarf calculate it from human age?
And why would they know 100 = 21 and not stop there?
Same reason the whole world measures battle mats in inches.
Well dwarfs drinking age is 0, so that wouldn't mean a lot.
4470115461512684340891257138125051110076800700282905015819080092370422104067183317016903680000000000000000 seems a bit higher than 100
But, it's just beer.
15 is old enough for mead! (In Germany, unless she bought it herself, than 16 would be the required age. That bar looks pretty German to me.)
But... Dwarven mead might be considered hard alcohol.
But, she's an elf, so she might digest alcohol completely differently...
This is a much harder question than just comparing 73 to 100.
Their parents are german, the elf will be questioned why this is not their 12 beer
Okay but why is 73 being ratio'd to 100? Shouldn't it be whatever age is considered elderly for an elf instead?
The meme is claiming that 100 in elven years is the equivalent of 21 in human years.
So the ratio 21:100 becomes 15.33:73 (or something like that. Its 6am here so my maths could be off).
Using the same ratio, 100 human years would be ~476 elf years.
In the US, the age of majority for drinking alcohol is 21, so it likely is.
What's the age for having a gun?
1776, Amen.
-3/4
There are a lot of assumptions here but is 100 the drinking age for elves because that number seemed pulled from someone’s ass.
elves were pulled from someone’s ass
In all seriousness I’ve wondered if living that long would actually make you mature slower or at the same rate. It’s like Grogu in the Mandalorian is around 50 but still acts like a toddler.
I don't imagine it's linear. Maturity probably has some connection to biological development.
Yeah this. This is totally what I was totally thinking
I mean, if it Forgotten Realms. You're probably considered an Elven Adult once you no longer dream of Avandor- they're depression era.