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ani.social

If the Bolsonaro family is happy with this outcome, that's all you need to know that the guy is honest and was the right choice.

The rot only wanted the corrupt fan club to get in

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lemmy.world

Sadly, while bolsonaro is shit and lula is a little better, Lula is still corrupt as fuck

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What are your sources to say Lula is corrupt?

His legal cases have been largely discredited as political persecution rather than genuine corruption: the UN Human Rights Committee concluded that his trials violated due process and the presumption of innocence, the Brazilian Supreme Court annulled his conviction in 2021 after finding the presiding judge Sergio Moro was biased and lacked jurisdiction, and Moro himself later ran against Lula as a political candidate — revealing a clear conflict of interest that undermined the entire prosecution.

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pipi1234reply
lemmy.world

Yes, the good old letting perfect be the enemy of good!

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lemmy.world

Uh? Wth are you talking about? Lula and his party were involved in a corruption scheme that stole billions of reais, that man is nowhere near 'good', his only saving grace is that bolsonaro is worse than cancer

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pipi1234reply
lemmy.world

Well maybe you should know the following:

Lula's legal cases have been largely discredited as political persecution rather than genuine corruption: the UN Human Rights Committee concluded that his trials violated due process and the presumption of innocence, the Brazilian Supreme Court annulled his conviction in 2021 after finding the presiding judge Sergio Moro was biased and lacked jurisdiction, and Moro himself later ran against Lula as a political candidate — revealing a clear conflict of interest that undermined the entire prosecution.

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lemmy.world

They only nullified the evidence not because the evidence was fabricated, it was all true, but because of the way the evidence was obtained. Billions were stolen from the people so AT BEST Lula and his party didnt know anything about it and is so incompetent that didnt notice (Dilma was even director of petrobras during it) and at worst he was the mastermind behind it all.

And I know all of it, I literally live here.

EDIT: Lula literally confessed to making use of a renovation to the country-side house he used on video to a judge because he didn't know that qualifies as corruption, funny as fuck

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lemmy.world

Still, no conviction and from the looks of it far better president than his american counterparts.

You dont know what you have until you loose it.

Look at Argentina if you want a good example.

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Voting for the 'terrible but still slightly better than the piece of shit' is literally how the US got Trump. The left can and NEEDS to do better in Brazil, I want a Bernie not a Binden (tho I do think binden is better than lula)

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My Brazillian brother, look at the numbers of Lula's governments, both 2003, 2007, and now in 2022. Look at GDP (pib), inflation, purchasing power, real growth of the economy, inequality numbers, price of the dollar, all of that. And you'll have your answer if Lula is only a little better.

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