Jeffries says Trump impeachment not a top priority if Dems win House majority
Just your daily reminder from Democrats that they suck.
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FYI for anyone in his district: Jeffries has a Democratic primary challenger this June — Vance Bostic, a working-class guy who as far as I can tell hasn't had a lot of press, but if you live in Brooklyn and are a registered Democrat it's probably worth checking him out.
Just count Jeffries and congressional Democrats out of everything. They’re determined to do nothing substantive with whatever power we give them, again. They’re a corporate donor maintenance organization, not a political party, not leaders, and certainly not advocates for any civic ideology other than whatever positions reinforce their ability to perform the above maintenance project.
Out of a cannon.
Into the sun.
Now then. let's not be so excessive.
Do you have an idea of the amount of gunpowder needed to make them reach the sun? And for what? With such explosion they'll disintegrate before reaching their goal.
Just give each of them a small dynamite charge and blow them up to pieces. The result will be the same, but way cheaper!
Horrific flashbacks to the time a city decided to blow up a beached whale... The consequences were quite memorable.
I'd hate to be anywhere near where Trump's orange mist would travel. That has to smell awful.
Passive aggressive racism
Huh?!
In what fucking way is that racism?
Mad bruh? Cause it is.
What makes you think that?
They're just determined to not win the majority, aren't they.
Then what in the fuck, pray tell, is?
Israel needs more billions for their genocide.
By breaking federal laws and saying hands were tied.
Trying to give money to "for profit companies" mandated by law again like Obama care
Betraying America in service of plutocrats.
I think it's the right course of action. If they impeach him he'll refuse to go and it'll be Jan 6 on steroids. Riots.
The better way will be to let him screw things up so bad that MAGA voters realise they were wrong. And the drive behind the movement will disappear. Rather than cause escalation.
He's already done that in part by raising costs of life with his tariffs and war.
Ps I'm in no way supporting the neoliberals, I'm very progressive too. But I don't see how an impeachment will end well.
He will not leave regardless.
None of them can leave, they know they'll get drowned in a lot of problems, from investigations to lawsuits.
It's like the situation in Iran, trump thought he'd throw a few bombs and the Iranian regime would just start writing resignation letters.
But they can't leave, if they do they'll be lynched by the oppressed people.
The same goes for the current US regime, even the identified ICE-soldiers will get in trouble when the regime falls.
People won't be reasoned out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
In other words as things go to shit it won't be the Fanta fascist's fault, it will be immigrants or black people, or Demoncrats. They'll never blame the pedo or themselves. Your way won't work.
Looks like there are republican Democrats that need to be replaced as much as Republicans are.
Scratch a neo-liberal...
Jeffries has zero say what happens in the next congress. Just like Schumer
They've been lame ducks all but two weeks of this session, and they're not above saying dumb shit like this to try and get progressives to tune out of the primaries.
They're doing triage for the neoliberal faction
If you don't like them, vote in your Dem primary for the most progressive options.
Better yet abandon them all together. Stop trying to breath life into the vision of a party that never existed
In a two-party system? Some great strategy there, Sun Tzu.
Does something special happen if we impeach him a third time?
Yeah. It shows that the current opposition party will always be against a national threat to democracy and pedophilic rapist.
It puts all of the blame solely on the party destroying everything and shows the democratic constituency that their votes matter.
I think I am growing to hate the worthless, centrists in this country even more everyday. How does one compromise with a rapist? With a pedophile? How do you compromise with a seditious traitor who sells our secrets to the highest bidder openly?
The fact we aren't in a war already shows that the country has already fallen and the Democrats aren't any way back to normalcy. They COMPROMISE with domestic terrorists that have killed science and education, farmers, cancer patients, children, etc.
WORTHLESS
I was leaning toward, 'without winning the Senate its a waste of time when there are so many other pressing concerns.'
But no, you're right, they have to walk and chew pedo-gum at the same time. They have to take action against the ongoing national threat, and they have to move the country on from these people's dystopic vision of the US. Its a necessary part of the program.
It'd also have the tactical benefit of distracting from the WH regime's program, and allow political space for wavering Republicans to push back against certain excesses lessening the damage the WH is able to carry out from that point.
If blue MAGA and neoliberals could read this, they'd be very upset!
They don't read things that aren't from their lobbists and corporate owned "free press".
A third opportunity to convict
Am impeachment is just a trial. Unless the dens can get enough seats in the Senate that are willing to convict and remove trump an impeachment where Trump refuses all congressional subpoenas for him and the rest of the Epstein administration is meaningless.
Nope. He just laughs and carries on.
Does something happen if you do nothing?
The last 2 times just shows it's a waste of time until they have the votes in the Senate to convict and remove him from office.
It’s clearly on his mind, he’s been mentioning it out of nowhere lately. He doesn’t want to be impeached for a third time. Now you’re right it won’t actually do anything to the administration, but this is one of those times when the principle matters. It’s worth doing it because he deserves it and it would infuriate him.
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He was on fox news when he said this; most likely, given the dems have already tried to impeach trump twice, he was trying to give the fascists a way to rationalize accepting dems winning the house. Besides this is a completely reasonable thing - unless dems win the senate too it shouldn't be the priority to do something completely pointless.
Ahh yes, the "let's not do our job, it's pointless" argument.
You have got to be fucking kidding me. That is quite literally the easiest and most free political slam dunk possible. These people have brain damage.
Funny he thinks it's going to be up to him. He's just going to be another Congressional Rep, and someone else will be making the decisions. He's already had his shot, and he allowed MAGA to rise again and take back over. He's already proved he's too weak and cowardly to get the job done, it's time for someone else.
In fact, both Jeffries and Schmuck need to be investigated just like every MAGA. I'm not convinced that they aren't Manchurian MAGAs. They got a lotta splainin to do.
Ayyyy any blue will do amirite?
This would be more impactful if the whole last year hadn't happened...
piss drinking worthless human.
YOU ARE LITERALLY WORTHLESS
It’s meaningless anyhow if they don’t follow up with removing him from office. They’d be better off with their standard form strongly worded letter.
Wow, so much for being the party of "Resistance." Tell me again how we can depend on the neo-liberals to not only do the right thing but also their jobs?
No you see it's 4d chess
They are lulling Trump into a false sense of security
they’ll get to it eventually; after they try to get 60 vote threshold votes and potentially succeed - low expectations here though
Can Jeffries be impeached for derilection of duty?
It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.
I mean, like, if they impeach him successfully, they’d just get Vance as president, that would be arguably worse. Like, trump is an incompetent idiot, and he’s filled his administration with incompetent sycophants. Vance probably would clean house of the most incompetent people and pursue much of the same agenda, so, same ghoulish techno facism, but implemented faster and with less opportunities to block it in the courts due to sloppy implementation.
Never interrupt the enemy when they’re making a mistake and all that.
To the surprise of no one. They have no interest in removing trump because they support everything he's done. This is what happens when voters refuse to hold their parties accountable. They blindly and willfully supported a candidate no one wanted, but fell in line when told to do so.
well yeah because they're the new Republicans lol
It's all theater. The democrats are there to make normal people think there is someone "good" in the government. The only ones who actually change society meaningfully are the conservatives. This is because FDR passed the new deal to prevent a second civil war, and the owners of the US hated that so much that they've been walking back that shit for 100 years. Essentially, back in the "gilded age" working people were essentially slaves to the companies they worked for, paid in scrip only valid at company stores, forced to live in company housing. The working people started pushing back, with violence. The US government unsurprisingly put down these 'protests' working on behalf of the business interests. Before it could come to a head, FDR did the new deal, and wwii buttoned it all up. They've been trying to make everybody slaves again ever since, and they're pretty close now.
I don't like Jeffries but he's correct here. No point in impeaching him cause he's never removed. Better off just blocking off and reversing every executive decision he's made.
You know you can also do both?
I disagree with doing both. Focus on what can make meaningful change if impeachment isn't going to make any changes.
What waste energy? Focus on what would hurt him more like his name on fucking buildings.
Right. Even if they impeached him, he’s not going anywhere.
It would be better to counter him as much as possible. I just don’t trust Jeffries to do even that.
It's like you could actually do both.
Also even though the chance of having the Senate follow through is basically nil, I still believe having public impeachment hearings where these assholes actually press the matter, bring the facts and be as explicit and dramatic with the facts as possible with the American public, because let's face it Americans are too dumb to be all about the facts, about the unconstitutional things he's done and how he AND the Republican party + Fetterman are responsible for the spike in every things for the American people. You don't have to remove Trump in order for an impeachment to be successful.
But then again with these spinless dicks that call themselves Democrats, maybe it is better that they don't have impeachment hearings because they would softball everything just like last times and get no point across.
Good. Impeachment is pointless and accomplishes nothing. Plus trump is a cenile stooge inches from death.
Jailing regime goons for their many open crimes should be the priority.
Why would they bother? It’s a waste of time. Nobody cares how corrupt he is and he won’t be removed.
Edit: if you guys could stop replying with
Redditright wing talking points, that would be cooli do.
They won't bother because they condone what he's doing. They no longer have to pretend to care about the working class