Spyke
lemmy.world

Why? Most democratic officials are closeted republicans.

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NatakuNoxreply
lemmy.world

Right. How else is Jeffries and Chuck going to afford their beach front property in Gaza if they don't receive million from the fossil fuel lobby.

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dan69reply
lemmy.world

Don’t know about that part. It’s just rooting for a team to stand up literally and it ain’t happening as much, preventing unnecessary spending, marginalizing communities, is been the rapport for either parties. Like this is a hot take but all party motto/slogan is tip toeing too much. Some real change or something needs to happen to garter my favor.

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NatakuNoxreply
lemmy.world

Do you think chuck cares about Palestinian people. Dude spear headed so many weapon sales to Isreal. He wants every Palestinian dead. Jeffries is doing it for the money.

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dan69reply
lemmy.world

This is why I love this community, you learn so much more about politicians who favor other countries constituents vs their own or their own fictitious family that they wrote 20+ years to connect to locals..

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from what ive heard about mr israel-schumer, this is only job ever, after college someone gave him a way to work his way into politics.

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This isn't really true, though some are. It's just that both Democrats and Republicans are almost all owned by the owner class, so support any corporate protections. That isn't anything that Republicans own. It's both parties.

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and funded by big oil, gillibrand is the most blatant one, she even received an "award from them.

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jimmy90reply
lemmy.world

yeah the Dems are just as bad look look look

vote Jill Stein the not russian shill

keeep trump in power! destroy the US at all costs

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leminal.space

If they remove our legal recourse, do they think we'll just shrug and be like "guess we have no options"?

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Typhoonreply
lemmy.ca

That seems to be exactly what Americans are doing right now about everything. So yeah.

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athatetreply
lemmy.zip

You’re right. No one is throwing molotovs at techbro houses or burning down warehouses or anything.

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tabarnaskireply
sh.itjust.works

Well, lone dudes doing dumb things won't do anything. People need to organize.

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They can MAYBE manage another parade with live music and tailgate parties in a month or two if the weather is nice and they get the proper permits.

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And they need to organize BEFORE global surveillance is enforced under the guise of "age verification"

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lemmy.world

Makes it easy to call us all "terrorists" before they drug us and send us to "wellness farms"

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piefed.social

That’s exactly why you all need to stop acting like sheeple and start a revolution.

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How dare you suggest that those piece of shit cowards aren’t doing enough? They’ll be here soon to set you straight!

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This is literally what you’ve done in the face of fascism creep for three decades.

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Oil burns a little too readily for them to be taking non-violent options off the table. A paper warehouse is nothing compared to this potential.

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piefed.social

Frankly? The United States is not a two parties country. It’s a no party country. Ever thought about why monopoly laws from the eighties no longer exist?

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There is a communist party. And a green party. And like 10 more, depending where you live.

The problem is not that there are not progressive parties. The problem is that the US is not a democracy, and it's designed so only one party can win elections

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communick.news

Democrats aren't saying anything because on the real issues that effect everyone (economics) the two parties are almost perfectly aligned.
Have been since Clinton won.

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DarkFuturereply
lemmy.world

on the real issues that effect everyone (economics) the two parties are almost perfectly aligned.

Is that why one has a good track record with the economy and the other absolutely fucking tanks it every fucking time?

And it's "affect" not "effect". Yes, I'm being that asshole.

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Stevereply
communick.news

They differ in the details slightly, accounting for performance differences. But every time the interests of the asset class conflicts with the interests of the consumer class, they both make sure the asset class is happy.

Whenever I see affect I think of people making faces. And any single economic decision effects people, while the economy as a whole affects people. With my phrasing I can see either works.

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Agerothreply
reddthat.com

Affect is a verb: the rising grocery and gas prices are affecting my spending choices.

Effect is a noun: the effect of rising grocery and gas prices are changing my spending choices

In your example: any single economic decision has an effect on people, while the economy as a whole affects people.

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Except when affect is a noun (disposition or emotion) and effect is a verb (to bring about or make happen).

Just to make things more difficult. :)

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lemmy.world

Conservatives. The comic book villains that came to life and terrorize an entire planet.

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zd9
lemmy.world

Do they realize that this will lead to more physical sabotage against oil infrastructure? If they get rid of any non-violent means of mitigating concerns, they leave only one option.

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Valmondreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

After what the americans have mustered against a fascist takeover I don't think the rich are very scared about someone trying to "sabotage" the oil infrastructure...

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ragebuttreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Right wing violence (which includes neo Nazis, fundamentalist Christians bombing abortion clinics, etc) and fundamentalist Islam attacks make up the overwhelming majority of political violence in the USA but left wing violence exists. And of that left wing violence the majority is what they call “ecoterrorism”

It’s not obscenely common (tbf no political violence is “extremely common” in America, statistically still very unlikely) but it does happen. It’s just far less publicized because “some people bombed an oil transport line/hummer dealership at night/etc” is not nearly as clickbaity as “weird scumbag with a manifesto about great replacement theory posted to 8chan shot 35 people”

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It's not nearly as much as it should be based on how many people are angry at the regime, but also the news doesn't want to publicize it because they don't want to give other people any ideas. Look at the response after they tried trashing Luigi, everyone loved and supported his cause, and they quickly dropped coverage.

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I don't want to sound condescending but so it's both not known about and doesn't seem to work. I mean you won't have regime change because an insurance company has to pay elon musk for burnt unsold cars.

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Which becomes further justification for building out their mass surveilance police state

Flock cameras and SWAT teams sound bad? You havent seen anything yet

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Bloomcolereply
lemmy.world

Yes they can barely keep the regime in place with the violent revolutionary clashes going on every day.
The US land of the free guerilla makes Hamas look like boy scouts.

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zd9reply
lemmy.world

I mean... I don't know what reality you're living in, but that's not quite happening yet.

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It will obviously never happen.
I figured /s wasn't necessary with the extremely embarrassing attitude of the US sheep.

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Another unpopular move by the party of pedophile supporters

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lemmy.zip

"Forever" is not possible, a future Congress can just repeal the law.

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lemmy.world

I'll be honest, I don't really care. None of these laws mean anything if the government is completely rebuilt from the ground up. Every single thing this admin does will be worth so much burned toilet paper. All the grifts ill gotten gains will be liquidated and confiscated by whoever the fuck hangs them all in the streets, as is most likely to happen. All the bills that say shit like "no regulations on AI evar!! Lol" or "Donald Trumps name on everything, including mt Kilimanjaro for some reason" will be meaningless.

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The only way this will happen is through violence, and even then it's not a guarantee.

  • conservative South loss against the north in the civil war and there were no reparations or punishment.
  • Nixon came the closest to being impeached and charges were dropped as soon as he resigned, despite the fact that the votes were there. We was then fucking pardoned because "we need to move on."
  • fucking TRUMP will "learn his lesson" for forcing Ukraine to provide opposition research on Biden in exchange for security.
  • TRUMP again when he literally caused people to storm the capitol.
  • when Biden was in office, house refused to even push more impeachment talks because "he's not president anymore" and then got Pikachu faced when he ran again.
  • when Trump finally was found guilty in New York, the judge fucking gave him no jail time.

Democrats refuse to hold Republicans accountable and we need to start acting like they are part of the problem.

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reksasreply
sopuli.xyz

democrats are just potty trained republicans, it seems to me. as an outsider america seems to have just one party that is divided.

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Watching all blue states fail in lock step to substantially improve the lives of the people that live in them has me thinking you are on to something.

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American here. Can confirm. It's not left vs right, it really is just two different colors.

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You have to remember that at the time of the civil war the US was a largely agrarian and geopolitically irrelevant backwater. It was terrified that the civil war would be the beginning of the end. So the lack of reparations was partly due to the fact that the south was (and still largely is) destitute, and partly because the north wanted a genuine reunification with minimal bad blood. Not saying it was the right choice. But it was based in logic.

Hopefully we have all learned the lesson of tolerating bigots and thieves.

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4gramsreply
awful.systems

I'll be honest, I don't really care.

This is how they win, you are doing precisely what they want.

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lemmy.world

You misunderstand. We either win everything or nothing. If we win, nothing they did with the laws will be permanent because there will not be this set of laws anyways. I abjectly refuse to participate if we do not redo the entire system.

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4gramsreply
awful.systems

Again, that’s what they hope for. You aren’t being noble, you are just noping out when it gets hard.

It’s more important than ever now, no matter what, make everything they try to do difficult.

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lemmy.world

"make everything they do difficult"

I am ....?

If we defeat them and do nothing about the system that did this, I am fucking off forever.

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Oh, agreed. But that means we have to fight harder when the system is working against us. To defeat them, we have to keep playing the game.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

They're not saying "I don't care because nothing matters". They're saying "I don't care because everything they do will be meaningless when we get them the fuck out of there".

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4gramsreply
awful.systems

Right, and what I’m saying is that is the mentality the power structure is trying to make us all feel.

You vote every time, you show up every time. I’m not saying vote for anyone specifically, but don’t give up your power. It is not meaningless to fight these fuckers, and just waiting it out is the only guaranteed way they will win.

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No no you got it backwards. What THEY do is meaningless because we we will make it meaningless by doing exactly what you're saying.

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lemmy.zip

We either win everything or nothing.

The first is impossible without committing atrocities, and the second is a worst case.

I abjectly refuse to participate if we do not redo the entire system.

Abject indeed. You've bought the "stay home and do nothing" propaganda, which is just what they want you do do.

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What the fuck are you talking about?

IF WE GET OFF THE COUCH AND MURDER THE FASCISTS AND FIX EVERYTHING THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IT WOULD ALSO RENDER ALL THEIR FUCKERY WITH THE LAWS NULL AND VOID.

I AM NOT ADVOCATING THAT WE DO NOTHING. I AM SAYING THAT THEIR ACTIONS AND FLAILING ARE NOT IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE ALL DIE FROM CLIMATE COLLAPSE IN 30-40 YEARS WITH THEM IN POWER OR WE FIX THIS SHIT AND ONLY PROBABLY DIE HORRIBLY FROM CLIMATE COLLAPSE IN 100-200 YEARS.

I AM FIGHTING FOR THE REDUCTION IN OUR CHANCES OF DEATH.

did you hear me that time...?

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Jako302reply
feddit.org

From an outside perspective its pretty clear that there is no coming back for the US without a violent intervention.

With how fucked up your electoral college is, there is now option for a third party to slowly grow in support like its possible in most democracies. That means your only options are both far right corporate puppets that have no real interest in fixing the underlying problems of the country, which in turn radicalises even more people.

Sure the Democrats are oders of magnitude better than the current nutjobs, but they historically did only the bare minimum to be seen as "the good guys" and "progressive". Anywhere else in the world they would still be right wing conservatives. Looking at how Mamdani policies get criticized by members of his own party should be all the proof you need.

Pretty much the only way out of this downward circle would be for 100 Million Americans to simultaneously decide to vote for the same 3rd party.

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lemmy.world

When will people realize that these are actual enemies to our country and are KILLING US

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100%.

No other nation/individual/extremist group/ideology on this planet could be causing America more harm than the Republican party. They are oppressive. They strip rights. They flagrantly violate the Constitution. They crush the middle and lower classes.

They are absolutely America's enemy and the enemy of Democracy in general.

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After a handful of perfectly preventable climate disasters if we had acted with force 10 years ago, people will suddenly go "how could God do this to us!! Why couldn't da gubament have done anything to protect us!!"

Fucking idiots. I hate these people with a cold passion.

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lemmy.world

They should be making people aware of this, but those stupid laws can be repealed just as easy as they are made.

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Such a shame your media is bought up by the wealthy!

But who will repeal them and why would they?

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They never do.
Either they don't try or they are powerless and blocked in some way.
Suckers fall for it every time.

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lemmy.zip

They framed it as a way to “protect American energy from leftist legal crusades punishing lawful activity.”

Aren't lawful actions already protected by, you know, the law? By definition, the only legal punishments that could happen are for illegal actions. This doesn't even make the slightest bit of sense as reasoning. They didn't even try to manufacture justification.

Anyway, when the justice system no longer can be relied on to provide justice, extra-legal methods must be taken to ensure a just society. Them doing this could be either of two things, or both. It's them actually protecting dirty energy companies, as it sounds, or it's them requiring vigilantism to stop it, which gives them justification to crack down on "the left" and anyone else who stands against them.

Edit: Also, they consistently say that climate change isn't real, and yet they feel the need to pass a law that explicitly is there to protect against the harms of climate change. Either it's real, and they should pay (especially since they knew about it and mislead the public, which this also explicitly protects), or it isn't real, and this law is pointless.

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the actual way to solve “leftist legal crusades” (if they exist): anti-SLAPP laws that punish frivolous lawsuits… but that would hurt them more than “leftists”

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lemmy.world

how is it that Cruz has not been lynched already?

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silence7reply
slrpnk.net

Congressmembers typically have bodyguards at public events.

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That's a very solid point, but Mossad isn't after Ted Cruz.

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lemmy.zip

Unlike the Republicans, they don't completely exclude progressives.

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They will express greatly concerning concerns, and send a moderately worded letter.

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They're doing what the exact same billionaires and corps who pay the Republicans paid them to do.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Republicans try to ban all energy except for fossil energy, while Democrats pretend to encourage all forms of energy while actually working for the same fossil fuel interests to suppress renewable energy

Fixed it for you. The Dems may be much less obvious about it than the fascists, but the vast majority of them are still corrupt as fuck.

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You changed the topic to corruption

Nope. Corruption is the reason why they support the continued burning of fossil fuels in spite of there being no valid justification.

That's not changing the subject, it's just describing the why behind the what.

because I was right the first time

Nope, you weren't.

Just give it up.

Right back at you.

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In other news, Ted Cruz wants big oil to know he has feelings for them but he’s not sure if they like him back.

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Warmongering surrounding Israel first rule over America is the main reason no one can have nice things. Without any support for Marxist supremacim, nationalizing oil, weapons, media (0 compensation to shareholders) and seizing all assets/homes of its directors. This exterminates corrupt policy influence, and helps fund UBI. Instead of relying on US political process, Military should coup takeover the country.

Didn't read article, but is this legislation actually going forward? More anti guillotine legislation angering the use of guillotines is not going to help them.

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lemmy.world

Shouldn't democrats sort out epstein files when Biden administration was in power?

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Stormyreply
thelemmy.club

Oh you mean while the files were conveniently sealed by court order because of Maxwells case until exactly when trump came into office?

What did you want them to do at that time?

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Do it anyway.

The MAGA Nazis don't care about rules or laws and taking down a global ring of child predators that has existed for decades feels like an excusable reason.

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Stormyreply
thelemmy.club

While the documented proof that apparently everyone needs to see was conveniently locked and sealed by the doj?

Do you know what trump would have said if they went above that?

"They're weaponizing the DOJ, it's a witch hunt and fake news. It's all lies they're doing this to hurt me." Invigorating the low information base he has to what, fucking go riot and try to hurt the people in dc again. March on the capital and shit, again?

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He was screaming at the time that epstein files must be released. If they were his presidency chances would be buried forever

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