Linux breaks the 5% threshold for the Hardware survey first time ever on Steam
Linux breaks the 5% threshold for the Hardware survey first time ever on @[email protected]
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Great to see linux finally getting some notice in the gaming world. It is about time :)
@frodololo @mesamunefire I absolutely love it! It’s funny but native Windows games actually perform better on Linux because Linux is vastly more resource efficient than Windows. Windows suffers from huge code bloat. Plus Linux is more fun and satisfying. 😉
Proton is such a good tool. I play Windrose on my windows pc but it also runs well.on my steamdeck. I'm prepping a new pc for the kid and i think it will be linux out of the box, just to see how far it can go.
Tbh, another reason is that you can't change the boot logo anymore. That was one of the earliest "hacks" and i still have fond memories of the XP Pirated Edition Logo. It also sparked my fascination with tinkering with the OS - and with Win 11 that is all gone
@jagermo Smart move! The more people we can get on Linux, the better. My finacee is not an IT pro by any means and she really likes Linux when compared to Windows. One of my missions is to get everyone I can on a Linux distro.
So It does depend on the situation, there have been some issues with significantly reduced performance for heavily multi threaded games through wine/proton. It seems like that is getting cleared up by a direct implementation of the relevant stuff in the kernel, rather than being a distro specific thing. There are also some performance losses due to linux giving all application equal priority for “video random access memory” on a GPU (so if a game needs more than what is available it gets forced to use other memory which slows things down a lot) but there are some fixes coming down the line to make a system default to giving games higher priority for VRAM than the browser or desktop. In general stuff through a translation layer will always cause some lose in performance though.
Realistically, on a super high end machine (multi thousand dollar GPU, nonsense amounts of ram, and absurd core count over clocked CPU) the bloat of windows doesn’t use up enough resources to impact performance, but on a lot of mid and low end machines Linux will outperform. The issues with translation layers are getting solved at an astonishing rate right now and… windows is just getting more bloated and buggy as Microsoft tries to push more subscription services and data harvesting.
@megopie I am sure it is also highly dependent on the age of the game and even the level of graphic detail needed. Since I consider myself to be a retrogamer, Linux cruises!
there are some older games that rely on multi threading and even on a modern system this can cause some serious performance issues, again, this is getting solved though.
@megopie Yeah, I guess you're right. I know that GTA III, San Andreas, and Vice City play better on Linux than Windows. I'm enjoying those very much.
Well, ofc it does better, no telemetry built-in so you ain't waiting for your PC to spy on you
DX12 games suffer a pretty hefty performance penalty on NVIDIA videocards. It's getting better with the new drivers and recent fixes in Proton, but for now if you own NVIDIA - it's usually on par or below Windows performance, for the more recent games. Still acceptable in my case tho
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Interesting but the absolute figures are not helpful due to the way the survey is conducted. But the macro trend over a long period is clearly up; we just don't know where is actually lies as a true %.
Valve will have far more accurate idea of actual numbers as they will be able to correct the raw survey data using other information and data they hold and collect. But they'll never release that as it's a commercial advantage to them to know so much about the PC games market.
What's an example of something they could do with more data than what we see?
Determine if sample set is representative. And if people switch. Valve know which user change setup but not release because privacy.
I guess it would be more precise, and they could sell it to game developers.
@BananaTrifleViolin @mesamunefire How might they correct the fact that only a small percentage of Linux users agree to the survey? It seems like there are too many variables. I am not very familiar with data science.
Guys its finally the year of the linux desktop
::: spoiler spoiler
And it should be anything but GNOME
:::
This is why we can't have nice things. You brought a knife to a celebration.
Let's just be happy for the platform, also fuck Arch.
Lol! It's the year of the Linux desktop! Let's celebrate!
::: spoiler and then... focus on converting everyone to the Vim editor. :::
::: spoiler spoiler GNOME is fine I will die on this hill. It's not for Windows refugees, though. :::
::: spoiler spoiler my issue with gnome is that it's not api staple enough to trust the plugins you install will keep working :::
::: spoiler spoiler Just apt-mark hold gnome /s :::
::: spoiler spoiler That's a fair criticism. I imagine as it matures more this might become less of an issue (yes it's been around for ages but desktop Linux is only recently gaining some traction, so I give them some slack there), but currently it's absolutely GNOME's biggest downfall.
It's also partially why I don't recommend it for Windows refugees, if you have any expectations of how it should function there's a good chance it just won't work that way, and the extensions that make it work how you want it to are unreliable.
I personally have a cursed setup with GNOME and hyprland installed. I retreat to GNOME whenever my hyprland setup is borked, which is most of the time. :::
@R00bot @mlg I love that you called them windows refugees. What about MacOS? (As a power user/software engineer)
I came from macOS and found GNOME pretty accommodating. It's more akin to macOS than to Windows, both looks and customisation-wise. I'm also a software engineer! :)
@R00bot @eddiereasoner
Welcome to the free world and nice to have you here ♥️
Thanks! I feel obliged to say I built my PC in 2023, but Linux still feels exciting to me. Trying to avoid becoming that annoying Linux guy who tells everyone to install it lol.
@R00bot
😂 After I did my first installations (back in 1998) with SUSE and Red hat... And I thought it was a mess. But I restarted using Linux in 2020 and it was a whole new world. Linux is grown into a real usable and flexible OS, and I love it... And well I tell anybody to try it out 😂
Linux breaks 5% threshold for the first time again?
Or is this a repost of the previous time?
Yeah, right, I swear I see this post every month. Same comments too. It's a little trippy.
I think the post might be talking about last month again.
2027 will be the year of the Plan 9 desktop!
My money is on GNU Hurd instead.
Heresy!
Even if you don’t use Linux, this is now an un ignorable fraction of the userbase. This will force more companies to support it!
There are dozens of us, dozens!
Don't forget about me!
Damn just got my new linux desktop going like last week. Its my headcanon that I was the very last one in to push that (I most definitely wasn't)