Spyke
lemmy.world

If they keep throwing around that word at every criticism, do they not realize they weaken their point a little bit every time. No one is sympathetic to their plight anymore as they have clearly become the aggressor beyond a doubt. Israel is Israel's problem. Destroying effigies of unpopular politicians is a tradition that dates back centuries, get over yourselves you big babies.

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It's gotten the point where one must dig into every accusation of "antisemitism" to see if there's really bigotry or if someone just pissed off the Zionists.

If one must find out more every time one hears a word, that word's utility is gone.

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lemmy.world

that's the plan.

every time they kill a child on camera and say zionism==Judaism. they encourage people to become antisemitic. they then keep on going killing 1 in six people in Gaza. antisemitism grows. Antisemitic attacks increase, then their propaganda chants how only in Israel jews can be safe (demonstrably false). and get people to colonize new illegal settlements.

Israel wants antisemitism. zionism was always antisemitic.

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lemmy.zip

they encourage people to become antisemitic

It just makes me more strongly opposed to crimes against humanity. I still have close Jewish friends and former partners, and they're all against these genocidal tactics.

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I'm trying to start a Bund cell in my town. so far it's only me.

I'm doing it after meeting some antiwar Jewish people and we tried making a Jewish antizionists group ... it was so frustrating, just a handful of white lib women who were complaining how "fuck Israel" is offensive or how "from the river to the sea" made them uncomfortable, or that the logo I designed (included the Palestinian flag) was uncomfortable for them. didn't come back.

next time I saw them it was in a protest, with me wearing a beanie with said sign embroidered in it (check you local library for a maker space), and a sign that said "fuck Israel". Burned those bridges. don't have time for the most milk toast bookclub.

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fedia.io

The antisemites will be our allies

-Theodor Herzl (paraphrased because I can't be assed to get the original quote).

No one is sympathetic to their plight anymore as they have clearly become the aggressor beyond a doubt.

They always have been; it just took a livestreamed genocide for Westerners to get the point.

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Echo Dotreply
feddit.uk

People have been sick of them for ages but a lot of politicians in the Western world, are, for some reason, beholden to Israel and have always criticised people who speak out against them. Even when that criticism is entirely justified and has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with specific individuals in the Israeli government, and their personal actions.

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I reckon the Epstein pedo honeypot that was run by Mossad and the CIA is a lot of that reason.

Also the US runs tons of digital surveillance of their allies and Israel specializes on things like remote hacking smartphones (most companies doing that shit aren't based in Israel by chance), so even when they don't have photos of the politicians diddling kids they'll have other compromising material on them such as evidence of Corruption.

Most politicians in the West nowadays are little more than posh salesmen devoid of ideology who were attracted to the job by the Power and/or Money, so the chances of them not being crooked in some way are pretty low.

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Maevereply
kbin.earth

They're the proxy state doing USA dirtiest work in the Levant. That's why.

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Doorbookreply
lemmy.world

Not really, proxy states individual doesn't go and bomb countries without telling the owner. It is a state the morphes and position itself to look like a proxy state. they spent billions controlling US government

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When you find out every single antisemitism statement and law are made to justify the moral of killing, prison, kicking out, and basically genociding the Palestinians people, who are the actual people who always lived there, the words and the laws doesn't mean anything.

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What's ironic is that you are right - in addition, the idea that one person or one country is the embodiment of all of Judaism is actually the real antisemitism.

There is almost no other context where people pull this kind of nonsense, and if they do, they are usually marginalized as being half-wits. (For instance, dumbass conservatives may claim that criticizing American foreign policy is "anti-white" or "anti-xtian", but most people, even other cons, tend to treat them like the idiots that they are)

But for some reason, this line of argumentation when it comes to Israel has passed as valid for decades, at least in the Washington consensus.

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piefed.world

“Everything I don’t like is Antisemitism!”

edit: found it!

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lemmy.today

the "oprah" of calling people anti-semites" your an anti-semite, your an anti-semite, everyone is anti-semitic"-BIBI

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That's pretty much the Likud party line: everyone who's not a trigger-happy ultranationalist is the enemy, who should be fought or manipulated. It's identity paranoia at a level that makes even scumbags like the Serbs seem laid-back and welcoming.

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hahaha they blew up an effigy of YOU my guy! that's pretty specific! kinda hard to seriously argue that hating ONE GUY out of all the Jewish people on earth is antisemitism.

(yes the rest of the zios can all fuck off too but this is too funny)

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"We don't hate you because you're Jewish. We hate you for yourself alone."

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Akh
lemmy.world

Israelis are antisemitic for genocide against Semitic Palestinians

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And are Nazis for carrying out the Hannibal Directive and falling for that Reichstag fire bullshit themselves.

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Aceticonreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Calling this kind of thing "anti-semitic" implies that committing war crimes, including Genocide, is a fundamental Jewish trait.

THAT is about the most anti-semitic thing imaginable, way beyond most of the slander against Jews from the traditional anti-semites.

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He's probably called God an anti-semite after being rained on.

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FuglyDuckreply
lemmy.world

Prolly.

It’s also antisemitism when his ass wiper is a little too rough.

(If he’s still alive, even.)

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forrgottreply
lemmy.zip

Unfortunately, I think Trump is not dead yet...

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FuglyDuckreply
lemmy.world

not sure trump's arms are long enough to actually do that job.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Oh, wow, now Netanyahu himself represents the entirety of the Jewish People.

I did nazi that coming.

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Yep, shitty people are shitty people. I don't give a damn about nationality, race, religion, sexual orientation. None of that stuff has any bearing on your character and integrity.

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if anything he's antisemitic by lending credence to the Jewish cabal ruling the world shit.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

In Netanyahu's mind, he is identical to Judaism.

I don't know why do many people insist on amplifying that message, it's going to have absolutely terrible effects on ordinary Jewish people around the world.

Well, I understand why people who hate Judaism would be spreading that idea, I guess.

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lemmy.world

Yep. Hardcore, yep. I think the average person supports Judaism as much as any other religion; "do your thing, don't shove it down my throat. I respect you and your ideology." At the same time, any reasonable informed person would celebrate Netenyahoo's (I don't care to spell the clowns name correctly) funeral. I think most of us are on the same page for most things, but media influence is real, and very bad.

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netanyahu and the far right israeli is stoking the fires of anti-semitism, so it legitimizes and allows them hide behind the shield of calling people antisemitic while they commit atrocities.

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Bibi knows what he's doing, he need not be so deluded. It's simple as using religion as a shield. State procedure in Israel.

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lemmy.org

Spaniard here. Paraphrasing famous and international businessman Michael Scott, "You know what? I'm going to start doing it even harder".

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Probably 100s of him burned during Fallas a few weeks before. Why is this one significant?

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If it was just a matter of teaching and learning but this requires strength.

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Blowing up an effigy: Antisemitic hatred, war crime

Blowing up schoolchildren: God approves it because he said my cunt children can live here forever.

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This worked about 10 years ago. Now it's more of a 'boy who cried wolf' situation

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Lmao, would blowing up an effigy of Hitler be racist towards Germans?

Conflating disgust towards and individual with disgust towards the race/religion/nationality that individual belongs to is such a transparent attempt to shed well aimed criticism.

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lemmy.world

Just like antinazi is not antigerman, antizionism is not antisemitism. Zionist == Nazi. Israel currently is zionist country, therefore Israel == Nazi Germany.

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blinfabianreply
feddit.nl

this made me realise.

Nazi Germany was officially called Greater German Reich, Israel proclaims a Great Israel

imagine if in the future, after all this BS. we refer to 2020s israel as Zionist Israel the same way we refer to 1940s Germany as Nazi Germany

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I am refering Israel as Nazi Germany today. They are evil society (country). Nazi Germany was tollerated few years, Israel is tollerated few decades but crimes can't be hidden forever. I hope that Israel fill have same fate as Nazi Germany, rebuilded into democratic and progressive country some day. Untill then they are the enemy.

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lemmy.ml

At this point when I’ve heard it said so many times for anything that isn’t just cheering on or silence that I usually expect those saying it to be racist and certainly Islamophobic and very likely genocide apologist

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perhaps receiving billions of false alarms per second will have some sort of negative outcome re: the occasional non false alarm mixed in

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lemmy.world

Based on Netanyahu's logic, if Israel doesn't want people to be anti-semetic, stop doing things to make people hate Israel.

Being anti-semetic and simply hating Israel's policies and those who implement and act them out are 2 very different things.

Netanyahu is a fucking idiot.

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El Burgo has population of ~1700. Nice town, beautifully located. Great cycling route.

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remember with kathy griffith made a effigy of trumps head,and she was cancelled, but when the right wingers did it, they wernt.

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Okay, so is Bibi implying here that he, all by himself, is the physical embodiment of Judaism on this planet?

If so I think that's blasphemy.

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I think the reason Israel's decline into fascism has gone unchecked for so long is because they play the antisemitism card every time anyone voices even the slightest bit of criticism towards the country and/or its government. They know exactly what they're doing.

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