Spyke

Gorbachev sending a letter to George H. W. Bush (which he would not respond to) practically begging to tell what kind of government he would like to see in the USSR is my #1 all time pathetic boot-licking given to a US president by a foreign leader. But Rutte’s “daddy” comment is a close second.

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Rutte is a traitorous cunt who destroyed the liveablity in the Netherlands and is now actively trying to destroy Europe and NATO. Just because him and Trump bonded on Epstein island means the world will suffer.

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Fuck Rutte. Hated him when he was our minister president, hate him even more now. He is a spineless cunt

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Judging by Australian government statements the US never even made formal requests for assistance to its allies anyway. Dunno if Hegseth just didn’t know how to do this and no-one competent saw fit to inform him - I can buy that he told Donny he had though.

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lemmy.ca

He’s in an awkward spot. He basically has to schmooze Trump so that Trump doesn’t pull out of NATO.

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mrdownreply
lemmy.world

He critisized the nato members who did not accept to help directly the usa war of agression. Stop making excuses for this shitty person

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lemmy.ca

I’m not trying to justify his words, I’m just speculating as to his motivations

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mrdownreply
lemmy.world

Yes you do. Tou are saying he has no choice but licking Trump boots

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lemmy.ca

Well from his point of view he probably does feel like he has no choice. That doesn’t justify what Trump did and it doesn’t justify supporting him though

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We don't give a damn. Anybody who can't condemn genocide threats is in no position to be in any position of power. He also blame nato members for not supporting the illegal war

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He's aware that he has choices but won't do them because he has to let Israel finish it's genocides/ethnic-cleansings first.

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lemmy.world

At this point NATO is a meaningless accord like every accord with the US. See also the ceasefire they jus threw in the bin.

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d00eryreply
lemmy.world

Except NATO didn't join the war. These are just words to keep the big baby happy. Trump won't live for ever.

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Weydemeyerreply
lemmy.ml

I feel like it’s well known that kissing up to Trump is the wrong move. Deep down he hates that and doesn’t respect it. He might bluster at first but eventually he respects people who stand up to him or at least don’t give in and kiss his ass (Kim, Sheinbaum, Xi).

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Interesting argument. On the otherhand Kim, Putin and Xi all have a lot of real power (be that economic, manpower, firepower) and, at least in the eyes of the USA, are it's traditional opposition. I'm not sure he has any choice but to respect that power.

I think trump knows who he can bully and when he can get away with it.

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0li0lireply
lemmy.world

Why the fuck does NATO need the US? Aren't there enough powerful countries in NATO without them? Maybe it's time to move away from over-reliance on the US on defence like everything else.

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No, NATO is thoroughly dependent on the US, it's essentially a means for US imperial power projection. The EU is thoroughly defanged.

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lemmy.ml

To be honest, I do actually know, but I like to try to have them explain to see if they realise how insane they sound

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lemmy.ca

Longterm thats a great goal. But the war in Ukraine is happening as we speak, and the inly thing stopping Putin from spreading the war to the rest of Europe is his fear of NATO.

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lemmy.ml

Russia has zero interest in conquering Europe, this is just the excuse NATO gives to justify increasing the budget and thus profits for millitary contractors and private industry.

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lemmy.ml

You're on a Lemmy.ml community. Do you have a counter-point, or do you think pointing out that I'm a communist is a counter-point by itself?

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Only 3 of the people commenting here are Lemmy.ml accounts, and one of them agrees with your positions. I really think you should take a step back and reconsider your understanding.

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If you walk into a bar and "everyone" is an asshole, I have some bad news for you

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Trump is objectively a greater threat to attack another NATO country than Putin is.

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orc girlyreply
lemmy.ml

Why would Russia try to invade the rest of Europe lmao

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lemmy.ca

Personally I am not comfortable with the only thing preventing Russia from attacking us is their goodwill, since if they seem to be in critically short supply of that

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RiverRockreply
lemmy.ml

can't think of an actual reason to be concerned

"well I just don't trust em"

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Funny you need to add "land" because NATO bombed the hell out of Yugoslavia

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RiverRockreply
lemmy.ml

It's crazy the extent to which mainstream liberals are living in a manufactured reality

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d00eryreply
lemmy.world

Hopefully it works, Trump will be gone soon, but if the US start pulling out of NATO it'll take a lot more to rejoin. Imho, the NATO guy is playing the best game he can.

Hopefully after Trump a more moderate president will arrive, there can't be too many like him. 😰

Imagine the NATO guy says "ok, we don't need you USA" what then?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1293174/nato-russia-military-comparison/

Number of aircraft by country in NATO

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Hopefully after Trump a more moderate president will arrive, there can’t be too many like him. 😰

One thing I like about Trump being the president is just how much he exposed the power dynamic of the imperial core. He exposed just how vile these countries are and how subservient all the vassal states are to it.

NATO is just another tool for the US to project power over the world. Mark Rutte's words! :)

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The EU needs either the US Empire, or to smooth things over with Russia and/or pivot more to China. NATO is just a tool of US imperial power projection in Europe, but the US Empire is pivoting away from Europe and towards Asia and Latin and South America.

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