sorry, this is as far as I go defiling Gene's memory with crude statements. I do not wish to speculate on his... placement on the kinsey scale; only repeat what is known in public
He was upset by the blatant Irish stereotypes, but backed down since he didn't exactly have a lot of clout at the time. For DS9's "If Wished Were Horses" he spoke out about having a leprechaun character which then changed to Rumpelstiltskin.
For DS9’s “If Wished Were Horses” he spoke out about having a leprechaun character which then changed to Rumpelstiltskin.
the character felt completely different /s
Giant bomb did a good analysis on this before. It's about italians and not irish, but the irish get a shoutout. Could have been better with Danny O'Dwyer, but then, that applies to most things.
From Memory Alpha, apparently the producers liked the idea enough they went with the rough draft which was, well, rough:
Melinda Snodgrass remarked, "It was intended to be a commentary about immigration, because I hate the current American policy. I wanted it to be something that says sometimes those outsiders you think are so smelly and wrong-colored, can bring enormous benefits to your society because they bring life and energy. That's what I was going for. Now my boss, at the time, was Maury Hurley, who is a major Irishman and leads the Saint Patrick's Day parade. When I was describing to him what I wanted to do, I was trying to come up with an analogy, and I said it was like a little village of Irish tinkerers, and he loved it so much he made me make them Irish tinkerers. I said okay, and that's how it came about."
As progressive as star trek was for its time, it still has its moments that make reasonable people shift uncomfortably in their seat.
Obligatory Fuck Rick Fucking Berman
I think the pervy elements and their continuation are from both Rick and Gene being horndogs and bonding over it.
Bond, like ....👉👌 ? 😏
sorry, this is as far as I go defiling Gene's memory with crude statements. I do not wish to speculate on his... placement on the kinsey scale; only repeat what is known in public
I wonder how Colm felt about that episode. It was pretty racist.
Damn near quit the show.
did he really?!?
He was upset by the blatant Irish stereotypes, but backed down since he didn't exactly have a lot of clout at the time. For DS9's "If Wished Were Horses" he spoke out about having a leprechaun character which then changed to Rumpelstiltskin.
Wow, I'd never heard that before. Good for him for standing up! Must be his Sean Aloysius O'Brien blood!
the character felt completely different /s
Giant bomb did a good analysis on this before. It's about italians and not irish, but the irish get a shoutout. Could have been better with Danny O'Dwyer, but then, that applies to most things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6P_TfP8ny0
bonus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpEDvFJavUk
Tomlin Riker
Ah, the episode where no one recalls the A plot, because the B plot is... well:
It's something to do with...
The wildest part of the A plot is when they discover the clones, Riker takes one look, says "uh nope" and summarily vaporizes the lot of them.
Yeah, seems a bit extreme. Even with the Federation's policy toward that sort of thing, he's kinda just murdering.
It's very TOS in its "judge jury and executioner" mentality, but seasons 1 and 2 were like that sometimes.
What were they thinking? "Nineteenth-century Irish stereotypes in space" was offensive when this first aired, and it hasn't aged well.
True, but this episode did give us one of the absolute hardest Riker lines ever:
"And what are you staring at? You never seen a woman before?"
"I thought I had."
From Memory Alpha, apparently the producers liked the idea enough they went with the rough draft which was, well, rough:
Melinda Snodgrass remarked, "It was intended to be a commentary about immigration, because I hate the current American policy. I wanted it to be something that says sometimes those outsiders you think are so smelly and wrong-colored, can bring enormous benefits to your society because they bring life and energy. That's what I was going for. Now my boss, at the time, was Maury Hurley, who is a major Irishman and leads the Saint Patrick's Day parade. When I was describing to him what I wanted to do, I was trying to come up with an analogy, and I said it was like a little village of Irish tinkerers, and he loved it so much he made me make them Irish tinkerers. I said okay, and that's how it came about."
What is it wiþ ST and þe pinkie when drinking?