Why cant I see all all communities of PieFed from a Lemmy instance?
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Hey there!
Already posted this on the instance itself, but there seems no explanation on why I can see one community, but not the other - no matter what I'm looking for.
Might this be a Lemmy←→PieFed problem?
Flagged as NSFW, because the link will then refer to NSFW communities.
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Communities only get populated after someone on your instance subscribes to that community.
Plus I don't think they'll show up in the Community search, unless someone first (once) adds them via Add remote community and makes the instance aware of its existence.
To the OP: basically ActivityPub quirk, no instances proactively import remote contents, first having to have someone request that information, and how the "request" happens, depends on the software
Ah ok, I might understand, thanks for explaining!
So how am I supposed to add this? I'm still new to the Threadiverse.
Been a while since I used Piefed, but at least ~1 year ago, iirc first you import the community as hendrik said, then you go to the other search page and search for the post using its original url, which always is from the OP's instance, not the community's.
However, 1 year in software development is a lot, so there's a chance Piefed's far less analogical now, and thus the paragraph above may be outdated.
So the importing is being done on what end? I cant find an import on my instance.
Ah, forgive me. Thought you were on Piefed. 😣
ahem From your Lemmy instance, go to feddit.org/search, put the post's link in the search bar, hit enter and wait a little. That way, the post and the skeleton of the community get imported, and following the community lets new posts get imported.
Alternatively, if you want to find just the community, not any specific posts, community mentions help too, e.g. here would be ![email protected] (
[email protected]), which you click to get redirected to the given community. Mentions you can find "in the wild", through discovery communities, sending DMs of the mentions to others or to alt accounts, or sending the mentions to communities specifically for testing.Did it on the search on the "normal" interface, as well on Tesseract for ~5 minutes. Unfortunately, search stays with no results...
EDIT: oh and dont excuse yourself, I'm very grateful for your help
Wait a sec, I thought it was if someone on your instance subscribes to A community in another instance. How is the first person supposed to find a specific community without discovery?
I think discoverability is one of the biggest issues facing the fediverse in general and the threadiverse specifically. There are third-party sites that try to catalog the wider ecosystem of communities (like lemmyverse - click the dropdown to switch between lemmy/piefed/mbin), but relying on third-party services like that is far from an ideal solution, and it is a barrier of entry to casual, non-techie users.
Piefed iirc tackles it by implementing bundles of communities by topics.
Also there are some communities specific for discovery, like ![email protected], ![email protected], ![email protected] and ![email protected], which may help.
Also Mbin and Friendica, both supporting thread posts, have microblogging functions (e.g. boosts and following users) which help populating each other and indirectly Piefed and Lemmy.
Others in the thread have already explained this bit of how federation works, so allow me to provide directions for how to bring an unfederated community to your instance.
On Lemmy:
https://remote-instance.tld/c/cool-communityOn PieFed:
Add remote community.[email protected]Tried it on the "normal" interface, as well on Tesseract, both ~5 Minutes. It doesnt show up, just no search results... :C
But thanks for the explanation!