Historic Chat Control Vote in the EU Parliament: MEPs Vote to End Untargeted Mass Scanning of Private Chats
In a sensational turn of events in the fight against Chat Control, a majority in the European Parliament voted today to end the untargeted mass scanning of private communications. In doing so, the Parliament firmly rejected the error-prone and unconstitutional surveillance practices of recent years. Pressure is now mounting on EU governments to respect the MEPs’ vote and bury untargeted mass surveillance in Europe once and for all.
https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/historic-chat-control-vote-in-the-eu-parliament-meps-vote-to-end-untargeted-mass-scanning-of-private-chats/Open linkView original on lemmus.org799
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Everything is temporary.
Political participation is a full-time job, keep the pressure on and the change will endure.
Why have we been talking about EU chat control for years. How many time have this been voted on? and can people just keep popping up chat control if the previous one fail?
What is this? Good news? In this economy? It simply cannot be!
This is democracy manifest!
Euroooopeeeee!!!
(Well the EU but it sounds less cool).
EUUU! (said like a new jersey mafioso says "eyyy")
Finally some good fucking news. Now let's make it so there's no 2.0 3.0 etc constantly trying to sneak this in - we need to enshrine privacy into real laws.
Yay Europe! Genuinely happy for you folks.
Maybe someday we’ll have freedom and privacy in the US :’)
Halt! You have gone below the mandatory threshold for nationally mandated jingoism. An ICE unit has been dispatched to your location to bring you to the RFK Right-To-Labour camp.
The beating will continue until moral improves.
It's definitely starting to feel like having your rights enshrined on unalterable tablets of stone, but which must be re-interpreted by a half dozen political appointees holding a seance with the founding fathers every few months, may not be the platonic ideal of governance that Americans are constantly telling the world it is.
Do nine men interpret? Nine men, I nod.
Awesome
Can we now put that in some form of European constitution, pretty please with a cherry?
Or we put it on a timer and let it bubble up in some months to reevaluate it over and over again. Wouldn't that be fun?
I wonder what all these anti-EU russian propaganda bots are going to use now to sow discontent against the EU... lol
It was a genuine concern, I am happy with the result
Of course. Nothing is black and white. This was a real issue, but still abused by anti-EU propaganda to weaken us.
Yes, but Denmark gave the opportunity to do so. We know we have enemies that wnt us divided, why bring such a stupid and controversial piece of legislation forward.
There should be blame put at their door for this, we know the trolls will troll that isnt new.
Probably pointing out the imperialism. It’s important to listen to your critics because there can be kernels of truth amongst the bullshit.
russians pointing out imperialism... how ironic
Nobody said they had to be morally integer...
.ml users crying in their commie blocks
Why is it possible to vote for something that is against the constitution?
Good News! I was so afraid for our future in Europe.
Losing freedoms in our modern times will lead to just another authoritarian state, which will eventually lead to shit.
Yay for the EU! Hopefully you guys get a law that will permanently enshrine your privacy rights (or rights to encrypted chats at least).
GDPR already exists, but there is no such thing as permanence in politics. Constant struggle
There is no such thing as permanent laws. And for good reasons.
I mean, yeah, I didn't necessarily mean forever. And you're right. But I hope you get some sort of law that is actually enforceable and has a chance of being useful for as long as it lives to defend you right to privacy.
Shit, I've heard so much fear mongoring about this for so long. Also on here.
The EU's stance have never been anything other than no chat control. All everyone else have pointed out are proposals not even reaching the votes, or got voted down.
I get that you are afraid that the EU would do it anyway and pass the proposals. But they never did, and even if it got voted for today, it's not even final and needs to go to the council who is openly against it.
But so nice that this is FINALLY put down.
Glad to know. I'd rather be overly cautious than overly careless about privacy, tho (looks across the Atlantic)
This is a really naive take - this amendment (which requires message scanning to be targeted) passed with a slim majority and could well have failed. In that case the existing mass surveillance ("voluntary scanning") would probably keep happening at least until 2028.
The council meanwhile is overwhelmingly pro-message-scanning, and they (together with the commission) are the ones who are pushing to break e2e encryption. There will now be talks between the three institutions to decide on how to proceed. Sadly I expect that some "compromise" will be reached eventually.
Says the guy overlooking the other trojan horse of age controls being brought inside the walls. Your analysis is not so good.
That "trojan horse" is nothing but a paper tiger since age control will be managed in a completely privacy-friendly way. It is a non-issue. So that is why it is being "overlooked"
The check will send nothing more than a yes/no verification, and no other forms of identification.
And the information will be managed by a governmental institute that already has all that information.
Jesus christ, you are a mark for some con artist with your naivety, no offense bro. Ha.
If you can't understand the technology behind it, please refrain from calling other people names. It makes you look ignorant.
The EU is very privacy focused, as should be apparent with the post you are literally commenting on.
Your russian propaganda holds no power here. It didn't work with chat control, and it won't work with age verification either.
gtfo. We all know what age control is in reality. You are playing us, for the oligarchy. Admit it!
it seems it is you, that have no idea how technology works. "open source" won't solve being able to prove it does not send anything more it needs, when the implementations will be black boxes, with obfuscated verification software as is recommended by guidelines governmental projects intend to follow, as you can see in this very long thread
additionally, when the laws are accepted, what will you do if the promises turn out to be lies? protest by not using the internet anymore?
sorry but you are so naive
A lot of lemmings really hate the idea of democracy actually working somewhere in the world.
Yeah, tankies can't handle it.
Good news. However shouldn't that also include online age verification?
No, those things can be done in a completely private way.
The commission always got the last word
The war over civil rights is continuing, no questions but this has been an important vote against the surveillance state ambitions.
Hell yeah! Great to hear that
They've probably realized that American corporations which are ran by the Epstein class get to sift through all the data
Great news!
*Officially
Europe has pressure to shift the narrative from all systems and institutes have been a part of the parasite class goals, to these concessions. "Noo don't collapse us, we are less rigged". But rigged is still rigged
Maybe I'm misreading, but it seems like this only applies in the context of sex crimes. I see no reason based upon the wording that they couldn't do it for other things even with this in place
No it says they any scanning must be in the context of sex crimes. It's otherwise prohibited.