Nick Naylor: OK, let's say that you're defending chocolate, and I'm defending vanilla. Now if I were to say to you: 'Vanilla is the best flavor ice-cream', you'd say...
Joey Naylor: No, chocolate is.
Nick Naylor: Exactly, but you can't win with this argument... so, I'll ask you: so you think chocolate is the end all and the all of ice cream, do you?
Joey Naylor: It's the best ice cream, I wouldn't order any other.
Nick Naylor: Oh! So it's all chocolate for you is it?
Joey Naylor: Yes, chocolate is all I need.
Nick Naylor: Well, I need more than chocolate, and for that matter I need more than vanilla. I believe that we need freedom. And choice when it comes to our ice cream, and that Joey Naylor, that is the definition of liberty.
Joey Naylor: But that's not what we're talking about
Nick Naylor: Ah! But that's what I'm talking about.
Joey Naylor: ...but you didn't prove that vanilla was the best...
Nick Naylor: I didn't have to. I proved that you're wrong, and if you're wrong I'm right.
Joey Naylor: But you still didn't convince me
Nick Naylor: It's that… I'm not after you. I'm after them (all people around) >
But on public discussions, also remember that there can be undecided people watching / reading too.
Real "Thank You For Smoking" moment.
Holy fuck has it really been 20 years since this movie? I may need to give it a rewatch.
It's been too long since last watching that film.
Best clip that could be quickly found on the topic (it was this or 30sec of Fandango ad at the end):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMWTSLeHIi8
That's basically the internet since I know it: explaining even the most obvious things to people who is actively refusing to understand them.
"You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into"
But it's so hard not to ahhhh
I can fix them
Preach. This was my new year's resolution.
Same!
The correct action is mocking them relentlessly
Only works if you have a community on your side. Just coming in swinging can easily make you look like an asshole.
What?