Democrats vow to shut down Senate over Iran conflict
This follows after four democrats voted against the War Powers resolution.
Pathetic, incompetent leadership.
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I'm tired of the "warnings". Just do it. You get no brownie points for talking about what you're supposedly going to do.
It's all just theatre. The show must go on, and they don't want you to know their 2 faces on the same coin.
Democrats won't do shit. They are going to yell at little bit and then have a meeting to determine which 5-6 democrats are going to vote with Republicans to make sure the murder law passes.
I mean they did this literally four times already this administration.
I'm no Charlie Brown with this Democratic Lucy bullshit at this point.
Democrats have never learned that they only exist when they act together.
They know that. Their game is to find out how to make it look as much like they're trying to resist without actually effecting change.
Are you talking about the leadership? Cuz democrats aren't a monolith.
They're talking about the rotating villain strategy
Not all Democrats, just the ones they elect to represent themselves.
The current neo-liberal democratic leadership and members do know how to act together. They coordinate very effectively to pretend to give a shit by making sure that they have just enough "opposition" and cover to make terrible decisions to not fight back.
im not sure if I would want to be one if they did. the republicans will all drink the koolaid of whoever manages to control their party atm. I want independent canidates that will not necessarily toe the party line
JFC you should've shut it down before his first budget was passed!
does this include fetterman. can we stop pretending he is a democrat. honestly this is a problem with our parties. they don't want to kick anyone out lest they officially be listed on the other side.
Lieberman, Sinema, Fetterman, Schumer…there’s always one, and usually just enough to ensure we never have the votes for meaningful opposition.
If too many of them are vulnerable in an election year, then there’s always the senate parliamentarian. Or some such bs.
Don't forget Manchin.
These DINOs have a purpose, though, especially when you have a majority. Even if you can't count on their vote, just having them in the party keeps them in the majority, where they have control of committees, investigations, legislation, etc.
When there is only a one or two vote majority, even a bad Democrat is better than nothing.
It's more of a problem with the two party system. Fetterman still sides with dems on some issues, so it's rational to keep him from drifting farther away.
Thats exactly what im talking about. Thats exactly why they don't cut him loose and it poisons the party. I mean I don't want all the dems to be toeing the party line like rebublicans but there should be a point where you say this person is really to far over.
So is there a plan to preselect a normal person next time?
anyone who actually gets involved in primaries and elections knows there is no preselection. Massive monitary support and dirty pool, yeah.
Never gonna happen.
Just shut it down for the next 2.75 years.
The current Democratic leadership couldn't lead themselves out of a wet paper bag much less having the spine to do something as bold as that.
Totally agree. Current Democratic leadership is utterly worthless and in practical effect the same as if the Democratic Party was led by republicans. Its a predictable outcome of the alleged pattern of "strategic voting".
Today’s democrats are basically where 2004 republicans were and we’re supposed to be excited about them winning somehow. Fucking overton window.
Wouldn't take that long. Only downside to a strike is not enough people striking.
And two daya later, they'll fold when the GOP makes some empty promise.
NO SIDE DEALS!
Trump wants voter restrictions or he won't sign legislation.
Should we just vote everyone out who doesn't want to work?
I give it two weeks before they cave. Three tops.
The fuck they will. They'll stamp their feet and beg pretty please and then the traitors will vote it forward and we've made no progress.
Could have done something with the war powers thing and you didn't. Why should anyone believe you're willing to do things you never seem capable of doing even when you could? Kick the ball Charlie Brown.
I wonder what they think the word "vow" means... 🤔
Pretty sure the Merriam-Neo-liberal dictionary defines it as
Vow 1 of 1 Verb
Do it, chickens. 😮💨
Shut it down with a stern letter while pounding the sand!
This will only work if they censure the four Democrats.
BS