Just wanted to add some clarity on the term Persian. Persian is an ethnicity, the majority ethnicity in Iran. So one could be Iranian (citizenship) and Persian (ethnicity), or Australian (citizenship) and Persian (ethnicity).
I think a lot of people use it instead of Iranian. Technically it might be an ethnicity. But, for example, I can find restaurants that advertise having Afghani food but no restaurants with Pashtun or Tajik food, restaurants with Syrian food but not Arabic or Kurdish restaurants, etc. But, while most restaurants go by the name of the country, not the ethnic group, there are no Iranian restaurants, only Persian ones.
A lot of those people are actually ultra-racist, which is why they emphasize Persian. They hate Iranian Lurs, Balochis, Turks, Arabs, Kurds. They hate their American/Western counterparts too. And don't gt them started on Black people.
They're just racists who think they're the top White race, true Aryans.
Normal Iranians are not like that. Iran is multi-ethnic and multi-cultural by history as well as by its National myth.
I don't trust any American politician in a position of power (because I've seen what America does to leaders they don't like around the world...) but I'm glad he's said it, even if it's just "his brand" and he doesn't really care. Someone's got to speak some sense, for whatever reason it might be.
I love Zoharn. I just wish New York wasn’t as stuck up as it is. I tried to go to a bar in jeans and a tshirt and they rejected me. Why? My money is good enough. Their cocktails were only $19 so it’s not a fancy place.
I much prefer Seattle for the culture vibes. But I miss the 24/7 transit.
Iranians are happy to see a bad government that they oppose being attacked. Iranian people want things like water and freedom from oppression. But do you think the US and Israel will help them? Also this isn't an intervention it's a full scale war.
All countries exclusively make moves that advance their own interests. That's just how the world of geopolitics works. So no, I don't think the US or Israel are attacking the islamic regime in order to help the Iranian people. That being said, the Iranian people are also only looking out for themselves, and this just happens to be a moment where the goals of the Iranian people align with Israel and the US. They all want the islamic regime gone.
It's important to note that Iranians are not stupid. They know that Israel and the US are not there to be their heroes and they know that it'll take a lot more violence and bloodshed to take down the regime. However, the regime has been so ruthless and oppressive that most Iranians have come to accept that this is the only way to overthrow the regime. They've been trying to overthrow the regime with mass uprisings for well over a decade, and every time they get squashed by the regime committing atrocities against the people as necessary. Getting rid of this regime without external intervention is simply impossible.
Keep in mind, Iranians are not looking for a new management, they're looking to take their country back. They will not accept any government that doesn't accept their will, their freedoms, or their rights. Iran is not for the mullahs or the monarchy or the Israelis or the Americans, it's for the Iranian people only. Any outside power that could help take down the regime and give the people the opportunity to take their country back is an ally. and will remain so unless they cross the line of trying to replace the oppressive regime with one of their own.
it doesn’t change the legal status of this aggression just because some people are celebrating it. if trump got kirk’d illegally and i celebrated it would that make it ok? not saying you think its ok, just that the people celebrating are irrelevant when the action is illegal.
He's failing my secret purity test. I can't tell you what the purity test is, because it's secret! If I told you what my purity test was, he might find out and pass it. But, if he passed it because someone told him what it was, that wouldn't count. So, all I can tell you is that he failed it! Trust me bro!
do yourself a favor and elaborate? because he clearly stated that he will protect Iranian new Yorkers who are at risk of hate crimes. exactly as the mayor should do.
Rhetorically, yes, but keep in mind every politician under capitalism needs funding, and regardless of what politicians may think they're extremely limited in what they can do.
We'll have to wait and see, but I see why some people are frustrated with him seeing as he started backtracking on anti-imperialist rhetoric during his campaign (ex: didn't push back when during an interview someone was smearing Cuba and Venezuela, and also moderated his speech on Palestine to the point he sounds like a liberal Zionist), then he let the Zionist police commissioner in power, etc.
Whether he's personally anti-elite or not is irrelevant because he's still forced to play ball with those very same people if he wants to get any concessions for the people in NYC, in the epicenter of financial capitalism. To me he seems like a regular socialdemocrat, very charismatic and charming, but a socialdemocrat.
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@pete_link @Susan_calvin is there any way to talk #Zohran (@NYCMayor) into getting out of X and e.g. into Mastodon – or at least Bluesky+bridgy?
AFAIK, a lot of Iranian-Americans go by "Persian" because there was already such a stigma associated with the name Iran.
Just wanted to add some clarity on the term Persian. Persian is an ethnicity, the majority ethnicity in Iran. So one could be Iranian (citizenship) and Persian (ethnicity), or Australian (citizenship) and Persian (ethnicity).
I think a lot of people use it instead of Iranian. Technically it might be an ethnicity. But, for example, I can find restaurants that advertise having Afghani food but no restaurants with Pashtun or Tajik food, restaurants with Syrian food but not Arabic or Kurdish restaurants, etc. But, while most restaurants go by the name of the country, not the ethnic group, there are no Iranian restaurants, only Persian ones.
A lot of those people are actually ultra-racist, which is why they emphasize Persian. They hate Iranian Lurs, Balochis, Turks, Arabs, Kurds. They hate their American/Western counterparts too. And don't gt them started on Black people.
They're just racists who think they're the top White race, true Aryans.
Normal Iranians are not like that. Iran is multi-ethnic and multi-cultural by history as well as by its National myth.
This is a true leader of the people!!!
So sensible, clear and direct response to the recent events.
I don't trust any American politician in a position of power (because I've seen what America does to leaders they don't like around the world...) but I'm glad he's said it, even if it's just "his brand" and he doesn't really care. Someone's got to speak some sense, for whatever reason it might be.
I love Zoharn. I just wish New York wasn’t as stuck up as it is. I tried to go to a bar in jeans and a tshirt and they rejected me. Why? My money is good enough. Their cocktails were only $19 so it’s not a fancy place.
I much prefer Seattle for the culture vibes. But I miss the 24/7 transit.
Only $20 bucks for two nips of spirits mixed in some sugared fruit juice.
Sounds like great value
Iranians in New York are literally celebrating this in the streets in mass, they are THE biggest supporters of this intervention.
Iranians are happy to see a bad government that they oppose being attacked. Iranian people want things like water and freedom from oppression. But do you think the US and Israel will help them? Also this isn't an intervention it's a full scale war.
All countries exclusively make moves that advance their own interests. That's just how the world of geopolitics works. So no, I don't think the US or Israel are attacking the islamic regime in order to help the Iranian people. That being said, the Iranian people are also only looking out for themselves, and this just happens to be a moment where the goals of the Iranian people align with Israel and the US. They all want the islamic regime gone.
It's important to note that Iranians are not stupid. They know that Israel and the US are not there to be their heroes and they know that it'll take a lot more violence and bloodshed to take down the regime. However, the regime has been so ruthless and oppressive that most Iranians have come to accept that this is the only way to overthrow the regime. They've been trying to overthrow the regime with mass uprisings for well over a decade, and every time they get squashed by the regime committing atrocities against the people as necessary. Getting rid of this regime without external intervention is simply impossible.
Keep in mind, Iranians are not looking for a new management, they're looking to take their country back. They will not accept any government that doesn't accept their will, their freedoms, or their rights. Iran is not for the mullahs or the monarchy or the Israelis or the Americans, it's for the Iranian people only. Any outside power that could help take down the regime and give the people the opportunity to take their country back is an ally. and will remain so unless they cross the line of trying to replace the oppressive regime with one of their own.
it doesn’t change the legal status of this aggression just because some people are celebrating it. if trump got kirk’d illegally and i celebrated it would that make it ok? not saying you think its ok, just that the people celebrating are irrelevant when the action is illegal.
Sure, but multiple things can be true at once
He needs to get off the fence, one side or the other.
He did. He said this is stupid and no one wants this.
I'm saying this is one issue. It's the largest current issue, but he needs to get with the whole program.
You need to actually explain your position and provide context because no one knows what you are talking about.
What's he missing?
He's failing my secret purity test. I can't tell you what the purity test is, because it's secret! If I told you what my purity test was, he might find out and pass it. But, if he passed it because someone told him what it was, that wouldn't count. So, all I can tell you is that he failed it! Trust me bro!
There's like a 90% chance its Gaza-related. Not exactly a secret...
You're a godawful poster.
Bro literally put both his feet on one side of the fence. Shut the fuck up
I will speak the truth whenever I please.
When do you plan to start?
"I say whatever i want to"
Anti intellectualism in a single sentence. Your ignorance isn't truth. It's your opinion and that's it.
nah see maeve here is a single issue voter and mamdani hasn't firmly addressed their single issue yet
Secret single issue that will not be mentioned
do yourself a favor and elaborate? because he clearly stated that he will protect Iranian new Yorkers who are at risk of hate crimes. exactly as the mayor should do.
what side of the fence you want?
Sure. But you need to find some first.
These people don't believe in the concept of truth, don't confuse them! 😅
https://youtu.be/Ee_uujKuJMI
the fuck you talking about
on the fence? he has been attacking people who horde money through policy and rhetoric
he is clearly anti-elite
Rhetorically, yes, but keep in mind every politician under capitalism needs funding, and regardless of what politicians may think they're extremely limited in what they can do.
We'll have to wait and see, but I see why some people are frustrated with him seeing as he started backtracking on anti-imperialist rhetoric during his campaign (ex: didn't push back when during an interview someone was smearing Cuba and Venezuela, and also moderated his speech on Palestine to the point he sounds like a liberal Zionist), then he let the Zionist police commissioner in power, etc.
Whether he's personally anti-elite or not is irrelevant because he's still forced to play ball with those very same people if he wants to get any concessions for the people in NYC, in the epicenter of financial capitalism. To me he seems like a regular socialdemocrat, very charismatic and charming, but a socialdemocrat.