Whenever a Cuban exile downtalks Cuba and its revolution, always ask why!
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It's worse for Rubio. His parents fled under the US dictator Batista, but he blames Fidel and communism
Wasn't that Ted Cruz? "I hate communism. Actually, it was Batista that tortured my dad." I know Rubio is a gusano, but if they have a similar origin story that's hilarious
It is no surprise to learn that this applies to both Rubio AND Cruz.
A banger as always
We could also take into account the shitty (because of America's embargo) conditions on the ground and the then perception that being warm towards Cuba would get you sent back.
Are there Cubans here who fled cause their Ill-gotten gains were taken from them? Sure. Are they the majority? No, capitalists are never the majority.
Cubans expats have an incentive to bad talk the island, so they're going to bad talk the island. Sometimes a horse is just a horse.
This is absolutely valid, but I am specifically referring to exiles, not emmigrants who sought better material conditions. These emmigrants do not tend to hate Cuba nearly as much as the gusanos.
More like "Because I primarily speak Spanish and little English and essentially all Spanish media is nothing but far right propaganda and pro-capitalist messaging and has been for several decades."
You mean ss opposed to English media, which is fair and balanced.
Spanish media makes English media seem pro-communism. However bad you are thinking it is, unless you speak Spanish and have watched it yourself, I promise you it's far worse.
That's part of it, too! The ruling class relies on its control of media and capital to propogate narratives that conform to their worldview.
Checks out, Reddit is known for that kind of nonsense.
Holy shit that's abysmal, gusanos are awful. I'm reminded of the portion of Parenti's speech on revolution, where he talks about a time he spoke with a rural campesino. He asked him if he liked Fidel, to which the campesino replied "with all our soul," and pointed to a brand new medical clinic on a hill nearby. Previously, they would need to hike through the mountains for miles, avoiding slavers, to get medical care. He was also attending night school, and could finally read, thanks to the revolution.
"Hard work" my ass.
Yea, I can't even look at most subreddits with how bad they are.
gusana na na na
"Everyone who opposes authoritarianism is a kulak."
Suuure, buddy.
Can you elaborate on what you mean? Cuba's electoral system is comprehensively democratic, the authority being fled by gusanos is the authority of the working classes enacting land redistribution, building hospitals, and freeing the slaves. Due to harsh sanctions, Cubans have much less access to foreign trade, stunting development, and in these cases many do emmigrate. However, these people don't normally have the same hatred for socialism gusanos do.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Cuban_parliamentary_election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Cuba#Political_scientists
Absolutely free.
I'm not seeing anything pointing to Cuban democracy being illegitimate beyond western liberals upset that Cuba has a socialist form of democracy, rather than a liberal capitalist one.
Western Liberals - you mean Americans especially GOP Americans, right?
No, western in general, not just Statesian and not just GOP.
Yes, it seems to be democratic just like the Democratic People's Republic of Northern Korea. You got me so good. /s
From Professor Roland Boer's Socialism in Power: On the History and Theory of Socialist Governance:
I highly recommend the book, it helps shed light on some often misunderstood mechanisms in socialist democracy, including the directly addressed fact that the DPRK's voting process includes single candidate approval voting. Without the context of the candidate selection process, this is spun as entirely anti-democratic.
it's so democratic, that the grandfather of the current ruler is the eternal leader, and somehow, the family seems to have ran the country unopposed, as though they are some kind of Royalty.
but comrade, that's what's so glorious about True Korea ; there are no kings, it truly is a socialist democratic paradise, where the tourists are not allowed to take pictures of anything deemed unfit, even in public spaces!
you are a clown, and making the left wing look bad.
The Kim family has outsized influence, largely because Kim Il Sung is still seen as a vital contributor to the establishment of the DPRK. Further, the "Eternal President" title is an honorary title still held by Kim Il Sung, as the presidency position he held was abolished after his death and decentralized. Kim Jong-Un is the General Secretary of the Workers' Party of Korea and the President of the State Affairs Commission, but these are not "head of state" positions as Kim Il-Sung had.
I'm not sure how you can claim I'm a clown, I've clearly done my research on the topic while your only point is "tourists can't take unapproved pictures."