High-end Android phones are now powerful enough to emulate the PC version of Cyberpunk 2077 — YouTuber gets 2020's hottest PC game running at playable frame rates [30fps] on Red Magic 11 Pro
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Got it running at playable frame rate, just by lowering the definition of 'playable'!
Yeah but CP2077 is a stupid game to emulate as a reference. If that mess of a game can run at 30fps, then like 80% of the steam catalogue can run at 60+
Wouldn't that make it a great benchmark? It sits right at that sweet spot where if it's barely playable then 80% of the other games are playable.
Usually the rule in software is that if it works for 80% of the cases then it's a good product.
(This is also why software is shit 20% of the time)
You are right, in that sense its a good showcase.
It's Crysis at max for the newer generations
Is that still true? IIRC it got a lot better post-release. It runs fine for me on what is now modest hardware.
It absolutely is not true. The game runs amazingly, and has for years at this point. One of my all time favorites.
I believe it got better, but my standard is just high i guess.
Is 30 fps not playable?
Any FPS is playable if you lower your standards enough. But most PC gamers would consider 60 FPS the minimum low bar.
FTFY.
Set your desktop to 30 Herz and tell us how you like it
I played games for years at 30 fps. Yeah more is better. But a GT 310m can only do so much and I wanted to play Battlefield 3.
Ever since the Steam Deck got released and local streaming services like Parsec or Sunshine/Moonlight have been created, I've noticed you can comfortably play games on lower frame rates, when your screen takes less of your view.
On PC I need to have at least 90 FPS to say a game runs smoothly, but I can play the same game on my phone/laptop via streaming at much lower frame rate and still not complain about the smoothness.
Playing Cyberpunk on a 6.7" smartphone display at 30 FPS will most definitely feel much less responsive than running it on PC at +60 FPS, but it may not be a bad experience.
I still find it impressive it's possible to play a (somewhat) modern x86 Windows game on an Android smartphone. Imagine telling this to someone 10-15 years ago
It really depends though. I can accept 30 FPS for stuff like a platformer, a third person brawler or a strategy game, especially so when I'm on my Deck. It's not ideal and it makes it a bit harder to time things but it's still playable. A first person game like Cyberpunk? You're really stretching the limits of what "playable" means. And I've tried playing Battlefield 3 at 11 FPS on a MacBook back in 2010. Sure I was able to "play" it but "struggle" may have been a better word than "playable".
I find the opposite. I’m okay with 30fps on my tv but for handhelds, anything less than 60 is unbearable
It's definitely news to me that it's considered a PC game...
I have been playing the shit out of it on my Steam Deck: 30-60 FPS is totally playable.
That phone?
So hot right now.
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More like a PS3, which rendered most games at 720p. PS2 did mostly 480i with some titles upscaled to 1080i.
I want one that can run grapheneOS.
But I don't want to play any game like that on a little phone screen. Do people not understand that bigger screens are better?
this is less about running steam games on phones and more about running steam games on all these android gaming handhelds that are hitting the market with Snapdragon 8 gen 6 and Elite chips. AYN, Retroid, Ayaneo, Anbernic, etc.
My 9 year old phone can be connected to a display with a USB-C to HDMI adapter.
That's nice, mine can as well. If you can also connect a mouse and keyboard, then you'd have something to game on I guess. Touchscreens are no good for gaming to me, my thumbs are wide and not precise enough on a touchscreen. So if I have room for a monitor, I'll just plug a computer into it.
Bluetooth controller do exist by quite some time. ...also bluetooth mouse and keyboard.
...ad also USB-C hub that recharge/give power, offer HDMI/DP port and usb slots.
I recall Ubuntu Phone back in 2011 was set to use these features to give a complete computing, Ubuntu Linux, experience on smartphone (and TV, as the smartphone connected to TV)
Yeah, it can turn into a full miniPC. I assume the tech has gotten even better since 2017.
You can use a PS5 controller and plug this phone into an external monitor.
Playing 2077 at 30fps using frame Gen and low setting would suck ass, though. RDR2 runs really well on the phone, though. Phone has been my daily driver for the last 2 or 3 months. It's sweet.
As someone who has been playing it on a Steam Deck, I am not surprised.
This is why I buy games almost exclusively on PC. Run your games on any device that people get it working on. First for me it was all Windows. Then same library on Linux. Same library in streaming services. Same library on Android phones. Soon same library on ARM VR Linux headsets. Same library on RISC-V devices. Someday I’ll be playing my Steam library on a toaster with a display on it
On a Redmagic 11 right now. I can run cyberpunk but instead I'll play something lighter like Sifu or even lighter like Hades 2. Being able to play cyberpunk means I can play thousand's of other games. It means any game that can run of a ps4 or lower can conceivably run on a high end android phone
That is petty impressive. I wonder if this will be the future is gaming due to PC costs
The memory shortage will also affect phones and other Android devices. But hardware crisis aside, the future will probably evolve some kind of x86 emulation since the PC platform is approaching its limits and the PC gaming community will not tolerate dropping support of the back catalogue.
PC costs certainly aren't helping, but there's an entire cross-section of income and age demographics whose only computing device is and has always only been their phones.
I was curious so I looked it up. This site suggests 1 in 7 households in the US "either lack a computer at home or rely solely on a smartphone for internet access", heavily weighted to lower-income states like Mississippi, West Virginia, Arkansas and Louisiana: https://www.benton.org/blog/computer-ownership-and-digital-divide
When you look at the numbers outside North America, the numbers show even higher % of people using their smartphone as the primary computing device.
The ruling class world like that wouldn't they. Android and iOs, both heavily telemetry based operating systems with zero offline privacy.
That's the future of the PC consumer market that they want.
It's already a market, look at all the android gaming headhelds that exist.
The biggest issue is that right now, the best phone processor doesn't even work as well as well as a steam deck. So you're paying $500+ to match a $300 device.
Maybe in the future the differences will narrow further as building games for ARM becomes more common which could make android support better.
I'm looking for a good phone controller for my s25. Has anyone got some experience with them and can someone recommend me a good one.
I can't recommend a good one but I do own a Razer Kishi (V2 I think) and while it does what it promises, it feels cheap as hell. Very unpleasant clicky buttons and at least my version doesn't fit all newer smartphone sizes (I have to remove the case for both the pixel 7 and the fairphone 5). I think for some casual short gaming sessions it still works but I wouldn't want to use it daily.
I was pretty disappointed with it too. Was obsolete basically day 1. Idea is right, the execution is lame. As is the case with the two razer products that I've purchased, there won't be others, at least for this guy.
I think I wouldn't have been so disappointed, if it cost like 10€ max. But at that price I expected basically the build quality of a 8bit do controller or something. I would have used it for retro emulation on the go but there's way better options like the R36H handheld or similar devices now I guess.
I've been looking into these types of controllers for a while now and have settled on the GameSir G8/+ as being the best bang for your buck and the one most people recommend. I'm just waiting on the next sale on Alixp to pull the trigger.
I've been looking at that one as well. I would also agree that that's the best bang for the buck. It seems like all of them have some drawback.
I recently got this having tried a few others in the past and I can't fault this one. It's excellent!
https://www.8bitdo.com/ultimate-mobile-gaming-controller/
Use a PS5 controller and 3d print a holder that will hold the phone out in front of the controller, or put the phone on a separate stand. Or buy a PS5 phone holder from temu or wherever online if you don't want to 3d print one.