Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft
Software engineers at Microsoft are now expected to use both Claude Code and GitHub Copilot and give feedback comparing the two, I’m told. Microsoft sells GitHub Copilot as its AI coding tool of choice to its customers, but if these broad internal pilot programs are successful, then it’s possible the company could even eventually sell Claude Code directly to its cloud customers.
Guys? Are we going to have to rename Microsoft products from Copilot to Claude soon?
Microsoft Claude 365?
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Microsoft is killing itself with shit vibe code.
Microslop*
Macroslop*
Micracoslop
Microslop cope-pilot
Good. Let's accelerate the transition to TempleOS.
We got copilot reviewing our code at work
It mostly just finds typos and other things like that
Quite useless at anything else
My girlfriend is forced to use only Copilot at her work, and its just completely useless. She frequently posts me failed tasks it couldnt do. :).
Seems to be the worst Ai by far.
GitHub copilot within visual studio is not bad actually, if it doesn't find anything to but typos then congrats your team is all competent senior developers...
It does cut down review time for juniors' work, and it's capable of implementing full features given the correct documentation and instructions. It's a useful tool that assists and doesn't replace competent developers.
Its only core competency is convincing idiot c-suites that they should force their org to use copilot
I don't know, that is about all Mistral can do too.
That and python scipy is like a 50/50 for relevant code snippits.
It had never once output compilable embedded code, even when I have tried to directly lead it there.
Which is weird because isn't ChatGPT supposed to be one of the best (least shitty)? Isn't CoPilot rebranded ChatGPT?
The model (sonnet, opus, gpt) is the engine, the framework (copilot, Claude, codex) is the rest of the car
If you put a V8 Hemi in a shitbox, it’s still a shitbox.
No, gpt is much better. I dont know how it works behind the scenes but I think Copilot is what Microsoft built and gpt is what open ai built.
For copilot in visual studio at least you can select between models it will use, depending on the org setup showing them.
I don't see how "worst of all of them" applies when it's an umbrella of other models.
Maybe we're all taking about different copilots. There's multiple products after all.
They’re all objectively shit.
Even with Opus in the backend Copilot is so bad compared to Claude code
Like intelisence which has been doing it faster, more consistantly and offline since the mid 2000's?
Intellisense can review a 1000 line PR?
Of course? Just as quick as it can candy colour the braces and highlight your references of your 1000 line pr
We have ours configured pretty well at this point and it does an absolute bang-up job at code review. It will point developers towards tools and utilities that our monorepo has If they appear to be reinventing the wheel. It will catch common problems and issues that we have in our instruction file, and does a pretty good job of catching bugs and small issues like typos and what not.
Perhaps you need to tighten up your instruction file?
Yeah, LLMs are pretty great contextual search engines if you curate a good dataset for them to draw from.
They aren't a magic bullet that'll find what's relevant to you from the vast ocean of shit that is the internet.
Can you share yours?
Klopilot - I'm sorry I think this only works in German
Welllll
WC stands for Water Closet and I think Klo is short for Klosett?
The brits also call it the 'loo' which doesn't sound too far off from 'Klo' I think
So it's not actually that hard to infer what it means
To be fair I did take like 6 years of Deutsch in die Schule, aber ich habe alles vergessen + I'm not entirely sure we ever learned the word "Klo". Maybe we did.
In the most German pedantic way: "in der Schule"
Oh right, Dativ.
My excuse is that I come from a language background with no articles, so declension on articles are unnatural to me! In fact, articles are unnatural to me!
In Estonian, the noun cases for that word would be
kool
kooli
kooli
kooli
koolis
koolist
koolile
koolil
koolilt
koolini
koolina
koolita
kooliga
kooliks
We have 14 of those so we get to skip prepositions and thus only need to decline the noun itself and any adjectives in front of it (or behind it if you're writing a poem and it flows better that way, Estonian is very weird when it comes to actually sentence ordering the words in a)
I think Microsoft, as they often do, see the writing on the wall—the AI bubble bursting soon, taking AI-only businesses with them. What I see in this is a play to, at best, buy some extra good will with Anthropic so they can be first in line for the acquisition when the latter are tanking, or at worst (and more likely imo), get them dependent on Microsoft for revenue so that they have no other choice to be subsumed by them.
But I’ve been wrong about most economic/political predictions I’ve ever made, so we’ll see!
If there's any company that will survive the bubble, it's Anthropic. They're the only company with a product, a business model, and customers that see long-term value in it.
This is true. But remember that Microsoft has an incomprehensible amount of money and if the bubble bursts Anthropic may survive but not at the same value.
I doubt Google couldn't easily kill Anthropic by expanding their Antigravity project.
Antigravity is only rarely useful in software development.
The same could be repeated verbatim for any other AI agent.
Its almost like everyone building this shit at one point in the past 5 years called themselves a "software developer" and might have a good insight as to what that job entails. Posibly why LLMs are kinda competent at the job of development, they are being built by 1000's of ex software developers.
Probably wont be good at law or chemistry because the people building it have a felon musk level of understanding about those jobs.
They are tiiny and losing money by the skip full.
Their product may be one of the best, but they are more expensive, and they have no hope of making enough revenue to float their business.
MS and Google float their AI with their other profits, so it can work as a business model.
OpenAI is the one doing 800 billion dollar deals and buying all the memory in the world
Is there anybody left who thinks that openai is going to survive? I don't think it has 6 months of life left.
It’s a weird money circle where companies spend money they don’t have for products that don’t exist and the money just goes round and round.
At some point someone will come asking about where the money actually is.
Lol. They made some "deals" based on hope and a dream. In reality they are still posting net losses.
By the way, I have the very best bridge in the world to sell you. Interested?
I’m sorry if my comment came across as supporting OpenAI. That was definitely not my intention 😆
Point was that they’re spending trillions and crashing the PC parts market and still firmly in the second place
Like a virus you say?
Copilot sucks, that is all
You do realize its ChatGPT underneath, yes?
I chuckle and die a little when the CGPT bois trash Copilot, but lie, when it was nonprofit MS was funding a lot of the research so that's their backend.
Squizzy didn't come off as a "ChatGPT boi." What are you on about?
I wasn't meaning they are specifically, just pointing out how fanbois are. Thats why I dropped to another paragraph. Sorry
I dont use openai, chatgpt was better for sure though, maybe not on a model level but on ui and ux. Copilot constantly has not checks that interrupt work. Copilot and chat gpt give different responses when interpreting excels, copilot is worse. It is the worst llm I have used.
I use le chat, copilot is for work and rarely because it sucks so much.
Great paywall. I guess I'm not reading this article.
And then La Verge will wonder why it can't keep readers on their website.
I didnt get a paywall myself actually. Mobile Firefox with ublock origin.
No paywall on Firefox desktop either with ublock origin either.
Other readers- archive.is link - completely readable
Try https://removepaywalls.com/. I’ve never had it fail for me.
It won't work for hard pay walls
What’s a hard paywall? Again, it’s has never failed me. It works fine on OP’s article. Can you show me one it doesn’t work for?
I think he means a paywall that replaces the content rather than cover it. You can't bypass a paywall that replaces the content.
The tool I referenced is just an archive search engine. It searches for unblocked copies of the article. It’s not a mechanical “paywall remover” in the literal sense.
Honestly I had the opposite experience and never had a "paywall remover" work :/
I also tried the weirder techniques like stopping the load of the page etc but it's not very reliable and rarely works.
Windows 12 will be the first vibe-coded OS
Win11 already is, see the latest few months of "security updates" breaking basic operation system functions.
Praying windows 12 will just be the name of the Ubuntu based distro Microsoft releases after they admit their devs are too incompetent to maintain a kernel.
Ok, but that would shake up EVERYTHING!!! Just imagine:
WINDOWS LINUX
Linux development would be BREAKNECK!
You mean: have it's neck broken by the falling mass of a shit-mountain of LLM-slop?
You're probably right.
Dillinger: "
EncomMicrosoft OS 12 is the most secure operating system ever released!"Uploaded to the www minutes later
I don't really want them around trying to touch stuff at all
Meanwhile, after installing Linux on my laptop last week and getting that set up, I'm in the process of backing up data on my desktop to do the same soon.
And what are the good non-github sites these days?
Codeberg
OK, cool, thanks. I'll check it out!
Microsoft is going to poison Claude with their shitty devs.
I think Anthropic has done a good enough job of poisoning Claude themselves within the past 4 to 5 months or so.
Claude Copilot 365.
Add yet another layer of obfuscation to their terrible products and insanely bad branding.
Claude Copilot Series X One
MS isnt' very good at isolating its experiments...
The guy from GTA 3 is writing code?
That's maybe the worst flex for Claude possible.
Microslop Claude 365 please.
Microslop mix
I wonder if the shift away from ChatGPT was due to their latest model using grokipedia to spew disinformation.