I 'think' there's a more innocent interpretation in there of something like, "If you're going to do Nazis right now, it might be worth making them more than a cliche villain to spray lead at so people can see how intrusive and insidious the ideology is."
buuuuut "we don't need more anti-nazi slop shoved down our throats" is one hell of a way to say that xP
That would be a bit more of a valid interpretation if it weren't for the fact that Wolfenstein is set in an alternate universe where the Nazis win the war.
You can hardly make them the classic 'inevitably going to fail' villain when they've been in power for the last 60 years.
Maybe they could add a scene where one of them is stroking a white cat although honestly that's pretty much the Wolfenstein aesthetic already.
He's literally saying they should be kinder to these war criminals.
I'm talking about your dumb population that definitely licks their boots and thanks them for their service.
What the regime does to them when these tools have served their purpose doesn't negate that.
And it's not a 'hot take', unless of course for americans which again proves my point.
They can rot in hell, and you bootlickers with them.
Where TF did he talk about "WW2 specifically"?
And not even then.
Despite the same propaganda BS they only entered for their own interest.
If you have time I could explain.
Didn't you read the post? They're making a new Wolfenstein game, the most effective way to resist the rising tide of fascism is to give Microsoft owned Bethesda money. Capitalism comes through for us once again, baby!
They've wormed their way into positions of power such as judges and statesmen. Anyone with an inkling of hate for Nazis would do jury nullification but then most people think the point of jury duty is to convict someone.
In fairness, it's a bit myopic to bring Mechahitler, the Super mutant, or even the Angel of Death into it as it's the earliest one-and-a-half games in the series.
RtCW dealt with the resistance fight in more detail, and the Machinegames Wolfy games went full anti-Nazi in the best possible way.
I still haven't a fucking clue what story Wolfenstein 2009 was trying to tell though, but I still enjoyed it.
The first chapter involves her killing weird lovcraftian/ haloesque monsters, but the rest is her massacring Nazis, draining their blood, using their guns, and her blades against them.
Bulletstorm, but the enemies are current day nazis. Have some of their "heads" act as joke bosses - idiots that can barely tell which way to point a gun.
God, I disagree with people who say things are just as bad as pre-WWII; it's much worse. Not that no atrocity preceded WWII, but the Nazis weren't reenacting a relatively recent one play-by-play, these people are.
And if they're not stopped, the outcome will be much worse.
the Nazis weren’t reenacting a relatively recent one play-by-play
Actually they were, they were copying fascist Italy under Mussolini, down to the "roman salute" that Mussolini lifted from Hollywood (and was almost certainly an early Hollywood invention) and given both Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy coexisted in time, they had an interesting geopolitical relationship, with Nazi Germany at first looking up to and emulating Fascist Italy, but then later they reinstalled Mussolini into power in Italy as a puppet state of Germany's
Y'know what now that you say that it did jog some memories of stuff I've read about so you're right, they did pull some inspiration from the US for some of their eugenic and expansionist policies
Fallout 4, Outcasts and Remnants mod lets us go back in time, slaughter Nazis and then kill Hitler. I always run this mod for that reason. I take the explosive minigun and gib them all. Except Hitler, he gets the tactical barstool.
Also, anti-Nazi slop is one of the few slops I don't mind.
Finally, fuck this asshole, whoever he is. No, not "everyone" is thinking that, mostly just you and some of your loser online friends.
I love that the game isn't even out yet and its already anti-nazi slop. Who knows, what if Microsoft makes the game about saving Nazis so they can get a tax cut??? The game ends during the tutorial because the BJ Blazcowicz is rightfully killed because he was a domestic terrorist?? Not so anti-nazi slop now
In my experience the fallout community is mostly anti-capitalist and anti-fascist because, well, you know. The theme of the game and everything.
Of course there's always the poor media literacy people who love the enclave or legion a little too much.
I'm actually curious to know what mod this guy devs for? If that part was real anyway. Just so I know to steer clear, ya dig?
Edit: I did some minor snooping around bluesky and it looks like this person claims to be a former dev for FNC (which others say is untrue) and the only real project they've been part of (from what I can see) was Fallout Ashfall, which they apparently got removed from ~2 years ago and they've been harassing those involved since.
Probably more to the story than that, but glad to confirm that this isn't a prolific member of the community.
Nice whataboutism, yawn here we go again.
The Russian nazis eh?
Please show that same picture of the same guy as proof RuZZia are Nazis, Puttler!!! bla bla.
Unlike ex-ucraine where they proudly display their fascist emblems and flags, nazism in the army or anywhere in Russia for that matter is forbidden.
You can find plenty nazis in any country, one clown doesn't make them representative.
The Russian ones unsurprisingly fight against Russia as part of the Russian Legion led by the scum Nikitin.
There they are free to display their disgusting ideology.
Or that other one adored by the west, Navalny. Made into some freedom fighting hero while he was equally fascist and disgusting.
But I'm sure you wouldn't know that since you only get one sided propaganda to deeptroath.
“balanced and unbiased take on WWII” after calling something “anti-nazi slop” is hard to even call a dog whistle, it’s more like a fog horn.
I 'think' there's a more innocent interpretation in there of something like, "If you're going to do Nazis right now, it might be worth making them more than a cliche villain to spray lead at so people can see how intrusive and insidious the ideology is."
buuuuut "we don't need more anti-nazi slop shoved down our throats" is one hell of a way to say that xP
Yeah, mostly because that’s not at all what he was trying to say with that sentiment.
Never attribute to malice that which can be attributed to stupidity.
Except for Nazis: it's all malice.
What about when it's stupid malice?
But how do you cross that Nazi threshhold without false positives?
If you complain that anti-nazi media is biased, you've passed it.
Godwin and Hanlon had a baby
That would be a bit more of a valid interpretation if it weren't for the fact that Wolfenstein is set in an alternate universe where the Nazis win the war.
You can hardly make them the classic 'inevitably going to fail' villain when they've been in power for the last 60 years.
Maybe they could add a scene where one of them is stroking a white cat although honestly that's pretty much the Wolfenstein aesthetic already.
Whistling is so last decade for conservatives and the rest of the right
This is what happens when you don't teach WWII history in society.
maybe if america was kinder to their veterans so they didn't shoot themselves... they'd know more about what war does to people
You certainly have been taught and indoctrinated to love your
veteransimperialist mass-murderers.Fuck them all.
If you going to have a hot take it's got to make sense.
The US definitely does not worship their veterans they claim to and act like they do but then they make them homeless.
Bloomcole isn't known for making sense, but is known for posting without thinking. Don't expect much.
Thanks for the heads up, I've blocked em
He's literally saying they should be kinder to these war criminals.
I'm talking about your dumb population that definitely licks their boots and thanks them for their service.
What the regime does to them when these tools have served their purpose doesn't negate that.
And it's not a 'hot take', unless of course for americans which again proves my point.
They can rot in hell, and you bootlickers with them.
Except I'm not American. There are subtle hints.
Also why are you talking about yourself in the third person. Did you perhaps mean to switch accounts?
Replying with this in a thread about fighting nazis is pretty tone deaf. Nazis never looted and terrorized anybody according to you...?
They're talking about WWII specifically, the one time we incidently ended up on the right side
Where TF did he talk about "WW2 specifically"?
And not even then.
Despite the same propaganda BS they only entered for their own interest.
If you have time I could explain.
The subject is the guys who fought the nazis and would have "educated" the dipshits openly supporting them.
I am aware the US didn't help the USSR liberate europe out of some moral compulsion, hence "incidentally".
Well ok
Im not american 👋
FTFY
Most people are saying “fuck yeah let me butcher more Nazis.” you fucking chudd.
Edit: LMAO they have replies disabled. The true sign of a free speech warrior.
Keeping Charlie Kirk alive in spirit.
I think we need more Nazi killing games these days.
Y'all are playing games?
I've been thinking about a game named "Nazi Lives Don't Matter". But I'm white, I'm not sure I'm comfortable with calling back to Black Lives Matter.
Didn't you read the post? They're making a new Wolfenstein game, the most effective way to resist the rising tide of fascism is to give Microsoft owned Bethesda money. Capitalism comes through for us once again, baby!
(/s)
You had me in the first half...
People have been playing down Nazi dog whistling so long that Nazis have become emboldened to do Nazi stuff.
They've wormed their way into positions of power such as judges and statesmen. Anyone with an inkling of hate for Nazis would do jury nullification but then most people think the point of jury duty is to convict someone.
They're aware that Wolfenstein is the same game series that had mecha-hitler right?
It's not a work meant for nuanced analysis about the complex political structures of WWII
In fairness, it's a bit myopic to bring Mechahitler, the Super mutant, or even the Angel of Death into it as it's the earliest one-and-a-half games in the series.
RtCW dealt with the resistance fight in more detail, and the Machinegames Wolfy games went full anti-Nazi in the best possible way.
I still haven't a fucking clue what story Wolfenstein 2009 was trying to tell though, but I still enjoyed it.
Also in fairness, we now know that Mechahitler was just Grok all along.
I bought a wolfenstein bundle on steam when it was on sale just because I felt like killing nazis lol. Stayed for the plot.
They're still on sale on GOG if anyone's in the mood for some 'anti-Nazi slop'.
I was certainly not thinking gee those nazis sure get a bad wrap in wolfenstein
If anything they got too much credit. They actually successfully colonized space in Wolfenstein.
Using technology a secret (mostly) Jewish cabal was actually hiding.
"I'd like to hear their side of the story for once!"
The more creative and abundant ways to kill nazis the better it's the game!
That's why i love the killing h*ttler DLC on Sniper Elite series, so many ways to send that piece of shit to hell...
Bloodrayne needs a remaster. Killing Nazis, and using them as health packs since Rayne is half(?) vampire
Holy shit, never knew than Bloodrayne was about kill nazis, now i really want to play it
The first chapter involves her killing weird lovcraftian/ haloesque monsters, but the rest is her massacring Nazis, draining their blood, using their guns, and her blades against them.
Don't forget the titty code
Bulletstorm, but the enemies are current day nazis. Have some of their "heads" act as joke bosses - idiots that can barely tell which way to point a gun.
God, I disagree with people who say things are just as bad as pre-WWII; it's much worse. Not that no atrocity preceded WWII, but the Nazis weren't reenacting a relatively recent one play-by-play, these people are.
And if they're not stopped, the outcome will be much worse.
Actually they were, they were copying fascist Italy under Mussolini, down to the "roman salute" that Mussolini lifted from Hollywood (and was almost certainly an early Hollywood invention) and given both Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy coexisted in time, they had an interesting geopolitical relationship, with Nazi Germany at first looking up to and emulating Fascist Italy, but then later they reinstalled Mussolini into power in Italy as a puppet state of Germany's
Their main inspiration was America and our treatment of non-white people.
A true circlejerk of jerks
So while there was a concerning amount of support for Nazi Germany in America and the El Paso "fumagation" practice applied to Mexican migrants entering the country was a direct inspiration for Nazi extermination camps I'm not aware of any other direct inspiration that Nazi's took from the United States specifically.
I wish I had the information at my finger tips but the Nazis took a lot of inspiration from eugenics in the USA and Jim Crow laws.
Y'know what now that you say that it did jog some memories of stuff I've read about so you're right, they did pull some inspiration from the US for some of their eugenic and expansionist policies
Yup, for a long time the USA has been a fascist state to PoC.
Fallout 4, Outcasts and Remnants mod lets us go back in time, slaughter Nazis and then kill Hitler. I always run this mod for that reason. I take the explosive minigun and gib them all. Except Hitler, he gets the tactical barstool.
Also, anti-Nazi slop is one of the few slops I don't mind.
Finally, fuck this asshole, whoever he is. No, not "everyone" is thinking that, mostly just you and some of your loser online friends.
Every time a nazi cries about Wolfenstein I play one of them again.
Which was your last?
House rules: Enemy Territory doesn't count; but Doom II Map31/32 absolutely does.
Old blood
banger
found the fucking nazi
Nazis should always be punched
Man, do we really have to start playing Charlie Chaplin movies again?
In the meantime, check out Darkenstein 3D on Steam (free) if you feel like shooting some nazi scum.
I love that the game isn't even out yet and its already anti-nazi slop. Who knows, what if Microsoft makes the game about saving Nazis so they can get a tax cut??? The game ends during the tutorial because the BJ Blazcowicz is rightfully killed because he was a domestic terrorist?? Not so anti-nazi slop now
Title is a bit odd. Why the claim that fallout mod devs are all fascist?
I honestly just didn't give the title much thought, it was the first thing that came to mind.
In my experience the fallout community is mostly anti-capitalist and anti-fascist because, well, you know. The theme of the game and everything.
Of course there's always the poor media literacy people who love the enclave or legion a little too much.
I'm actually curious to know what mod this guy devs for? If that part was real anyway. Just so I know to steer clear, ya dig?
Edit: I did some minor snooping around bluesky and it looks like this person claims to be a former dev for FNC (which others say is untrue) and the only real project they've been part of (from what I can see) was Fallout Ashfall, which they apparently got removed from ~2 years ago and they've been harassing those involved since.
Probably more to the story than that, but glad to confirm that this isn't a prolific member of the community.
They're are way too many brotherhood of steel fans. Especially fallout 4 bos.
If FO3 was your first fallout it makes a bit more sense to like BoS tho, they're a lot chiller in 3.
But yeah I agree, the games make it clear the BoS is mostly awful lmao
Oh...ok...downvoted, I guess.
Nah, disagree. Don't need any more nuance to WW2. It was fairly straightforward.
#NotAllNazis
Not the ukrainian nazis that's for sure
But you're on-board with the russian nazis?
Nice whataboutism, yawn here we go again.
The Russian nazis eh?
Please show that same picture of the same guy as proof RuZZia are Nazis, Puttler!!! bla bla.
Unlike ex-ucraine where they proudly display their fascist emblems and flags, nazism in the army or anywhere in Russia for that matter is forbidden.
You can find plenty nazis in any country, one clown doesn't make them representative.
The Russian ones unsurprisingly fight against Russia as part of the Russian Legion led by the scum Nikitin.
There they are free to display their disgusting ideology.
Or that other one adored by the west, Navalny. Made into some freedom fighting hero while he was equally fascist and disgusting.
But I'm sure you wouldn't know that since you only get one sided propaganda to deeptroath.
Lol whataboutism, my person the thing i replied to was your "whataboutism". Stop spouting KGB propaganda
LOL look at McCarthy here.
Watch out tonight, therte might be an evil commie under your be!
Clown
You're funny. I can't imagine simping for any country, let alone russia. Talk about clown
Sure,
JanComradeDo you make it a point of being on the wrong side of every discussion involving Nazis or something?
That's ..quite the word salad. I don't mind drugs or anything but sometimes it might be a good idea to not hit the pipe quite that heavily, ya know?
Sure buddy, good luck with that.
lol that account is unhinged.
Wolfenstein is so political 🤢
I was hoping this was some failed attempt at satire. Its not. https://bsky.app/profile/4allout.bsky.social