“Abolish ICE” Is More Popular Than Ever. How Will Democrats Drop the Ball This Time?
Establishment Democrats are rejecting an increasingly popular position by refusing to take a bold stance that happens to be good politics.
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Remember: abolishing ICE is the compromise position. Never start negotiating with your end goal.
In that case, why not start with exterminate ICE to negotiate something in between?
Nuremberg II with no Operation Paperclip. (Not that any ICE dipshits would be smart enough to qualify anyway, but just to be safe.)
Well, there's this:
https://truthout.org/articles/schumer-and-jeffries-refuse-to-back-growing-democratic-calls-to-defund-ice/
You’re fired.
Shooting innocent women in the face and kidnapping thousands of people to send to torture camps in 3rd world countries isn't the appropriate time?
thousands of innocent people being kidnapped & tortured
The appropriate time is very obviously when they need to bug you for donations and/or votes.
The appropriate time....aka we're not gonna so shit. Yesterday was the appropriate time you ghoulish fuck.
"We need to reach across the aisle and let him strangle his wife some more. She's not dead, so she can clearly take a little extra. And the guy loves it. So let's all calm down and let him squeeze her neck."
Schumer thinks the kill shot for the republican opposition is to focus on lowering grocery prices (something they honestly have no power or plan to do) while citizens are getting shot in the street.
I got a newsletter from Gillibrand and she doesn't even mention ICE, at the time a week after Renee Good was killed.
They're not even picking up the ball.
Those two are con artists. It's funny you mention Schumer having picking a topic he has no power over because I imagine that his role shtick.
Haha the Schumer Schtick: con the public by talkng about emotional idioms he has no control over and distract away from real issues he does have control over.
He had control over the shutdown, that absolutely worthless shit of a man.
Ah, the one that shivved Franken.
I would absolutely berate these people if I ever saw them on the street
The nobility should fear the peasantry.
Schumer is obviously working for team red. Don't listen to a word he says, just. watch his actions. It's obvious and indisputable.
I got a letter from Juan Vargas and they not only misspelled my name, they basically told me that they don't have any way to actually change anything. I don't actually know which call they were responding to, I have a tendency to call those cowards once a week.
Install the app called "5 Calls," it makes it trivial to contact your representatives and senators. They also provide you with scripts if you need help wording things.
Schumer: Dems are overwhelming becoming a popular resistance because of ice and republican fuck ups.
Jeffries: Not good. We must fuck this up.
AOC and Bernie: 🙄
Mamdani: 😫
Fetterman: 🥹
AOC Pelosi voted to continue funding Israel.
I heard Elissa Slotkin in an interview the other day, and she would not commit to trying to pursue reduced funding for ICE, much less abolishing it…
Can’t drop a ball you don’t pick up.
These relics think the entire reason they lost was because of the bullshit immigrant propaganda pushed by the MAGAt right. So they think their path to success will be showing those MAGAts that they too are hard on immigrants, not even noticing the baby being washed out with the bathwater.
Trying to be more rightwing to get more voters never worked: the right demonized the Democrats, so they will never vote for them, while going even more to the right alienates the left.
But they will try anyway because going left would alienate their sponsors and doing nothing results in loss.
"Nothing will fundamentally change and the economy is fine."
(loses)
"Wow you guys are so sexist."
Try never picking it up in the first place.
It is time for DHS interests to bribe the Democrats some more. Don't worry, they got this.
probably the fact that bill kristol is calling to abolish ice but dem leaders can't
By not doing it.
Well, when you phrase it like that...
Yes
Yes.
If the Democrats had any interest in dialing back the police/surveillance state they would have done it during the Obama administration when they had a majority in all 3 seats of government. People are so goddamn naive.
ITT: People blaming everything on the party Americans voted out of power instead of the people actually doing the bad things.
Literally the only thing the democrats can do is whatever they can convince enough of the GOP to go along with, which isn't much. Many times the most they can do is write a strongly worded letter.
Are you capable of math? If D = 213 and R = 218, is D > R or is R > D? Oh right Americans can't do math, so blame the Democrats I guess!
Dumbest country on earth, blaming the opposition party for what the governing party is doing.
When there's FASCISTS in power, you are supposed to oppose the FASCISTS. This isn't hard.
Y'all can't come to terms with the fact that your country is being run by a fascist child molester dictator and just pretend like it's someone else running the country. Too embarrassed to admit y'all should've voted for the competent black lady instead of voting for deranged lunatic child molester. Or maybe you just didn't vote because of some bullshit "principles". When your principles result in fascism, you have some really stupid principles. Too embarrassed to admit you filled your heads with internet bullshit that you were unable to do the painfully obvious.
You're still incapable of opposing fascism because you still want to keep your heads filled with internet bullshit, never questioning where the bullshit is coming from.
Stupid fucking Americans.
We didn't vote them out of power. Drumpf and Elon both admitted just before the election that they were rigging the election. Tons of irregularities. The voting machines were owned by Dick Cheney, and are now owned by another Repuglicunt fascist.
Still too embarrassed to accept reality.
So Dick Cheney was conspiring with Trump? Must have made for an awkward Thanksgiving with his daughter, don't you think?
A conspiracy theory that only an American would believe. Denying reality is just compounding the embarrassment your country has become.
Man you Americans like to shit on the opposition more than you do on the actual Nazis. No wonder you guys are fucked, if I was a leftists politician I would not want to stand up for you guys just to be called every name in the book and shit. I’d let you guys drown too
Are you insinuating that you would allow the Nazis to take over if their opponents called you some mean names? Just want to get that cleared up.
Im saying your people and country are not worth saving. As an indigenous person, I just want to be clear that the US is a country of terrorists, and im glad it’s on fire
A collapsing United States could still kill everyone else out of spite. For example, if a civil war begins, various states could seize the nuclear silos and power plants, and then dirty bomb their enemies. The Americans would all be dead, but the rest of the world would have to deal with the radioactive crap and extremists leaking out of the States.
The US 100% is getting what it deserves. But holy crap, I though other regimes fell in grace. We're tripping over our own dicks and diving headfirst into our own feces.
Nero stole an orphan boy off the street, castrated him, and had him assume the identity of Nero's dead wife
It doesnt feel too far off from that really. They always did want to be Rome.
you and givesomefucks always have the worst comments on any thread.
lmao you'd have to not be American to think Democrats qualify as "the opposition" after they conducted an internationally-recognized genocide and sent police to beat nonviolent student protestors opposing that genocide
The left has no federal representation in America and no upper-level state representation either. Greens won some local elections but that's about it I think.
Right so this is why you guys prefer trump and we are supposed to think you’re sane? You hate the democrats so much that a pedo Nazi is preferable, that is insanity. Cause all you’re doing is helping trump and his pedos and racists, you’re being a far right conservative stooge. At least own it, say it. The democrats are so bad you prefer trump. Say it.
As a non American i can’t tell the difference between MAGA and you guys anymore, you both support trump in different ways, you help him by helping his campaign and attacking his political enemies for him. You oppose anyone who wants to stand up to him. You refuse to vote for democrats. So what’s the difference between you and MAGA? Nothing.
You guys bitched that you didn’t want the old white man anymore, so they gave you an educated black woman and you went “eeew no”
Then you played right into the hands of trump, Putin and Netanyahu and let them spoon feed you the narrative you wanted. They committed genocide while pointed the finger elsewhere and you ate that shit up
Who tf said I prefer Trump? lol liberal mindrot, didn't even read the rest of whatever you said
Typical American
The typical American is too busy to read dumb Blue MAGA (except not even from America) ramblings? Yeah true
Not even American, I know you guys think entire in the world is your footstool and everyone online must be American but we’re not.
If I was American I’d end myself
...yeah, I know, that's why I said "except not even from America". Guess that high-caliber non-American education system still struggled to help you with reading comprehension.
Who wants to tell them?
Lefties around here don't actually want to win and govern anything.
American lefties are about as toxic and malformed as the rest of America really so it’s no surprise. I have never experienced as much racism, Thats, shit slinging and conservative tactics from the American left as I have in the last 2 years. And let’s be clear im talking about the AMERICAN left.
The leftists around the world know how twisted a leftists American view is. It’s still the same world police “we know best and you better like it” attitude as the right but with opposite beliefs. At its core it is still very American and filled with hate and vitriol, even if the message is good. Americans have no chill, they’re in a shark tank so it’s no surprise their entire method is to be assholes