I feel like half the neighbourhood is on fire and everyone is carrying on like everything is normal
The Untied States is literally becoming like nazi Germany and I don't know if people understand that I'm not exaggerating. I legitimately can't tell if people realize that America is now a fascist dictatorship, likely to soon go full on nazi Germany and make it explicitly illegal to be part of certain minority groups, at which point it may be too late for people to leave. I don't know if people around me understand that that's not an exaggeration.
People just keep on going to Disneyland as if it's perfectly safe. It's like watching people go to a store that's literally on fire and nobody is even trying to put it out. It's like people think if the fire department isn't reacting then it isn't happening
and my grandmother thinks it's funny to tell me canada is going to be the 51st state. Yes, so hilarious the fire might soon consume our house too
What helps is to recontextualize what you're seeing. It makes you feel less crazy and helps to give you a sense of your place.
The reality is that the US is not becoming like Nazi Germany, but rather that Germany became like the United States through the Nazi movement, and then that Nazi movement was integrated into the United States, and now the United States is advancing the thing we know of as "fascism" or maybe more specifically "EuroFascism" or "North Atlantic Fascism".
Racism as we know it today, is found all over the world. That's NOT because racism as we know it coemerges naturally everywhere but rather because racism as we know it was invented by the European civilization and then imposed on 80% of the world's population through imperial domination. This is important because it helps to understand what I mean when I say that Germany became like the United States.
Germany, like most Continental European countries, was not multicultural. The European nation states were generally monocultural and their techniques for survival involved the dominance of their one culture over another, often through the process of complete extermination or displacement. This expanded the boundaries of those states, but maintained them as a monoculture.
Settler colonialism started off this way - bring your culture and your people to a new land and begin the process of extermination and displacement until you have secured an outpost of your nation state in new territory. But this was incredibly inefficient, it turned out, and the Americas really showed that by being so goddamned big. A new way of colonial domination was invented in America and it drew on racial hierarchies articulated by European scientists to rationalize it. Did you know every single original medical university in the US had a huge role in the research and development of race science?
The integration of chattel slavery, reservation systems, child separation, cultural erasure, the creation of slave hierarchies where some slaves were masters over other slaves, the creation of inter-racial conflict between kidnapped and enslaved Africans and the indigenous... All of these advances were done here, in the Americas. The first gas chambers were invented by the French generals in Haiti, the same French generals that we look to as liberators and leftists in the US, because the Haitian slave revolt was so massive that the French needed efficient ways of killing large groups of them.
When you study the rise of the Third Reich and it's leaders and philosophers, you find that they studied the US to learn how the Germans could achieve what the US had achieved. The Germans wanted to stop with this idea of just Germans owning and dominating nearby lands - there weren't enough Germans! They needed to construct a cross-cultural race, the Aryan race, that could bind a disparate group of people together and build a greater violent force. Their intent was to invade the Slavic nations, invade Russia, and control all of the territory and resources there. To do this, though, they would need more than just extermination and displacement. They would need slave camps, reservations, they would need the Slavs to work and labor and toil but not revolt, they would need different groups to fight with each other, to fight for proximity to the Aryans for their own safety, they would need to advance the American system.
And they did. They made huge strides in developing what the Americans had made huge strides in developing from what the Americans had inherited from the British, French, Spanish, Portuguese, and Dutch. But, the Soviets won. The Soviets rallied every single ounce of self-preservation they could muster and they defeated the most powerful military ever fielded in Europe and marched all the way through Berlin.
And what happened. The Holy Roman Emperor - the Pope in the Vatican - to which we can trace the Doctrine of Discovery, the literal Pope started saving Nazis by getting them into monasteries and then relocating them to monasteries all around the world.
And the Americans helped. Truman oversaw the creation and execution of Operation Paperclip, which brought Nazis from all levels into the US and all over Americas. They were given money, property, jobs, security details, false identities, etc. And they were integrated into the US. The US put top Nazi officers in charge of NATO. The Allies put top Nazi politicians in charge of West Germany. It never ended.
The US isn't becoming like the Nazis. The US inherits the fascistic empires of Europe, it advances that fascism to its highest known height, and then the Nazis emerge and extend the US's program back into Europe, and then the Nazis are absorbed back into the US, and the US continues to develop the program, unhindered by any opponents, with a completely pacified and propagandized population.
When you realize this, you realize it's no longer as crazy making. You have always been surrounded by Nazis or latent Nazis. The signs have always been here. You have been raised in text books worshipping genociders, slavers, rapists, human traffickers, drug dealers, and yes, fascists. The entirety of your upbringing, education, and social structures all conspire to integrate and obscure these things, because they are complicit in it. And up until such time as you realize what's going on, you also are complicit in it
Now that you realize what's going on, now the job is to figure out what to do about it. How to be less complicit, how to stop it, or how to build the momentum that will eventually stop it.
seems like the easiest most immediate answer would be to remove murdochs propaganda empire. his daughters want to sell out the business for scraps, only his son wants to continue the family business of spreading fear and hate across the western world
would some other parasite media-grifters fill that power vacuum? probably, but i doubt they'd be nearly as effecient
Murdoch's empire is the tip of the iceberg, my fine feathered friend. The US government has been producing propaganda for its entire existence. It continues the propaganda that was produced by the English, Dutch, French and Spanish before it. The US military is a propaganda machine. US military intelligence is a propaganda machine. The US State department is a propaganda machine. Nearly everything said by electeds and appointeds are part of the narrative, knowingly or not. Our education system is fundamentally built on propaganda. Our advertising landscape. Our video games. Our literature. Not just the rags, but the real thoughtful stuff too.
It's in the universities at every level, it's in all the curriculum, it's in the court system, in common law, in the jurisprudence. It's in SCOTUS opinions. It's in children's rhymes and songs and school yard games. It's in parenting. It's in the churches and synagogues.
It's quite literally the narrative equivalent to the air we breathe. No. Getting rid of Murdoch's empire would do nothing. MSNBC is propaganda. WaPo, NYT, NPR, CNN... It's all completely integrated into a long running white supremacist narrative.
Don't believe me? Do you know about AIM? The American Indian Movement? When they were brought to court to face the state accusers the ultimate authority for the court's decisions was none other than the fucking Doctrine of Discovery - literally a bulletin sent out by the Pope 600 years ago saying "Christianity must be spread. Save the heathens of the world. If they won't be saved, enslave them, take their way of life from them and educate them, and if they fight back, kill them all". Yeah. That's what the court's decided.
But that was like 50 years. Surely it's not the same? A, that's not how law works and B, nope. In the 2000s the SCOTUS heard a case involving Indian territory and RBG, liberal bastion, wrote the majority opinion and the decision rested on the Doctrine of Discovery, with RBG stating that the US would not have a legal basis for its territorial claims without it.
We are all living on land stolen under the decree of a fucking religious leader who said that genocide is OK because they weren't going to be saved anyway. The Spanish were disgusting in a totally different way, choosing to interpret the decree as a license to rape as much as possible, steal children, and mix white blood with savage blood in an effort to bring the offspring of the savages closer to God.
But you'll never learn that in grade K - 12. You'll never learn that a Thanksgiving was a victory prayer that the white settlers held after successfully destroying a village of natives, killing everyone there or running them off. They were giving thanks to God for their victory. Again, not something we're gonna teach kids.
Everything from the holidays we celebrate and don't celebrate to the speeches given on those dates to the statues, paintings, poems, museum displays, historical markers on the highway.
It's all a fucking narrative to cover for the absolutely brutal country we live in and have always lived in. The fascism didn't start with the Nazis and we're not just emulating them for some abberation in time.
This is who we are as settlers. This is our inheritance. This is what was done in our names, when our forefathers said "we need to make a better life for our grandchildren and their grandchildren and their grandchildren". This is America. This is Canada. This what Europe unleashed on the world.
And this is what we have to clean up, arrest, and heal.
i get all that (random thought...it really is in our children's game...musical chairs? disgusting little metaphor for ratfucking capitalism...damn) aight, but kicking over murdochs precarious pile of rocks right now would certainly be a step in the right direction, is all i'm saying.
It would certainly be cathartic
Shut up, bird.
Jk solid discourse and great povs discussed here.
That's unkind to drug dealers.
went to high school in north texas. texas history (an entire two semester year) devoted weeks to the events leading up to the Alamo and it's impact on texas history... but fail to mention anywhere the actual cause of the alamo, texas's refusal to give up their slaves. After years of warning from Mexico that they couldn't continue, texas decided slaves were worth fighting a war over.
And this isn't an isolated incident; both of Texas's constitutions are very explicit about the central role of slavery, including prohibiting people from freeing their own slaves.
Funny that.
Typical Texan education system whitewashing history.
Jesus h, tldr
TL;DR: Nazis copied USA, USA is evolving its own Nazism that’s always been here.
“Don’t worry, it’s not new. Just getting worse ✨”
People dont know what to do about it. Its as simple as that. They dont see any available action that they see any chance of being fruitful... plus they are too busy thinking about how theyre going to pay their next bills.
Yes but, if you live in Canada, it is very easy to NOT GO to the Untied States. One of my complaints is people in my country continuing to walk into the burning states as if they see nothing wrong or dangerous about it. It stresses me out.
People not coming to the US is already having an effect. Hotel occupancy is starting to drop off and prices are starting to drop.
I know it's anecdotal, but my Canadian coworkers all canceled their trips to the US. They all switched to Europe or Mexico.
A bit over a year ago, we were making holiday plans including a trip to the US. When the orange menace got re-elected I convinced my wife that we should just do a longer Canadian leg for the trip. Best decision ever.
I live in one of the biggest tourist areas in America, and business is WAY down, and I'm all for it. Let the big corporate tourism jackals feel the pain.
Good but I still know people going there like nothing is out of the ordinary. I won't be satisfied until nobody is going there. And these people I know don't support Trump. They know Trump is bad but they don't seem to think anything is out of the ordinary
Ah i see. Well i know im not going to the us anytime soon either. Simply having my phone searched and messed with at the border is already a big turn off. I have family members there that are still a valid reason to visit, but i agree that going to something like disneyland would be support for this degenerate state.
I'm pretty sure I'd get arrested crossing the border because I've made a lot of anti-trump posts on Facebook
There have been Camadians who have accidentally crossed into the United States because they took a wrong turn on the road, and ended up in detention for weeks.
I feel extremely uncomfortable living so close to a fascist country because of irrational fear of this happening. Luckily, I live in Newfoundland
This is it 1000%
In the US, probably 75% of the population will irreparably fuck up their entire life from a single missed paycheck, which can happen if you miss a single day of work because you were illegally detained.
Not like "oh, I'll need to pay a late fee fuck up", I mean, "you and your kids will die cold and hungry under a bridge" fuck up.
The president doesn’t have the political capital or enough popular support to take America to war with Canada or the Danes for Greenland.
He can bluster, bitch, and whine but he’s pretty impotent.
I’m willing to bet he’d try for Greenland. He’s certainly trying to get Venezuela to make the first move.
He fucking sucks I wish there was actually an easy way out of this
He will do it after a year of bombing Venezuela. He's a big fan of hitler, so he will likely also start an unwinnable multi front war.
Maybe he'll also die like Hitler
Given his age it's a 50/50 chance. It took very long to get rid of hitler tho. I would wish the American people a sooner resolve.
Living in Alberta, I think the plan is to take Alberta if their Republican backed/funded separatist plans work out with our traitor MAGA premier. I'm not too worried, even though they just ignored the Forever Canada petition. Except in the scenario of low progressive voter turnout if they manage to get the signatures for the separatist one.
MAGA isn't as competent as Nazi Germany though. That was a enonomically devestated country that voted in a dictator to fix things. Nazis were efficient; that was literally the point.
This is more like the fall of Rome or the Soviet Union: a country at the apex of power and efficacy, finally buckling under the weight of its decedance and indulgences, and drinking too much of its own koolaid.
My hope is that MAGA turns into a cold bucket of water for the country. But more realistically, this seems to be the start of a sad corpo state that's going to fall behind the rest of the world.
East Germany or the Soviet Union collapse makes the better comparison. Similar mass delusions among the public that all the debt, wars and breakdown in society is normal or will get better on it's own. Loss of the rule of law and truth more broadly. Like after the Soviet collapse, you have oligarchs coming in to take over parts of the system and privatize them. This effect creates the authoritarian system that lead to Putin and those around him. The U.S. has its Gorbachev. Even in Soviet society they had a concept called Vranyo, which translated to the fact that the population largely knew the Government was always lying and corrupt, and the Govt knew the population knew they were all lying and corrupt, and anyone who tried to Plato's Cave it was always shut down across the board from both sides. The mass delusions lasted until the collapse. And even after for many.
Ugh, that is very compelling.
Add in a bit more cyberpunk, with how the country uses tech these days.
Also, the US is quite wealthy and developed compared to the old Soviet Union, a confounding factor. That's kinda why I was thinking of Rome.
No, they weren't particularly efficient. In many cases they were bumbling idiots that got really, really lucky - just like the current US administration.
Yeah there were several make or break moments for the Nazis that could have easily halted the whole thing but they just kept being lucky.
You are not exaggerating, except that what you point out is not certain to happen, and way too many people think it's a great strategy to stick their head in the sand, thereby making it more likely to end up catastrophic.
It's already hopeless when you look at the reactionary people that think they are fighting it.
i live here, also feel like this & that everyone else isn't taking it seriously, and am not exactly sure what the fuck to do
I am desperately trying to not do anything myself because I know if I do, it will be a bit overzealous for the current appetite among the resistance. I am hoping some of their other plans work out a bit or just waiting for them to fail.
The world has always been on fire.
You should really study history for context.
"Made in Britain"
"The story of the human race is war. Except for brief and precarious interludes there has never been peace in the world…” - Winston Churchill
its mostly used as distraction from internal problems, wars, war on drugs, culture wars distraction from population issues, HCOL, healthcare, economy, enviromental problems , JOB PROSPECTS.
Those who support it, didn't think that's the case. They have been brainwashed to think this is all great stuff. I think a lot of them are psychopaths, having no empathy for anyone suffering. They simply don't believe it until it happens to them and then they are outraged. It's nuts.
I don't think it's that they're all psychopaths, or lack empathy. I think what it really is is faith, in a sense. They've been told bad things happen for a reason, that actions have consequences, and thus they have faith that the bad things happen to bad people who deserve it, because the world is a just place.
But when things happen to them, or people close to them, then they know that it's not justified. They don't know about all those other folks, but they know their mom didn't do any bad stuff, and they know they don't deserve this outcome. So only when it happens to them do they go "this is bullshit" and then get angry that the system and/or universe gave them the wrong result.
That's kind of funny because you literally described a person that lacks empathy. If they had empathy they wouldn't have to wait for it to happen to them.
I disagree! Empathy is about feeling what another person is feeling. And what I'm saying is I don't think it's that they're not feeling what the person hurt by the system is feeling, I think it's that they assume the system is working as is necessary, and the other person's pain is justified or explained by something, even if they don't know what. Their pain is a consequence, in the way that a person standing up under a shelf and bonking their head is a consequence of their actions.
So it's not that they don't understand that it's bad until it happens to them, it's that only when it happens to them do they feel like maybe this consequence isn't justified by anything. And I think that's why sometimes the leopard-face-eating doesn't even shake them out of it. They'll be like "look, I know you're deporting people because they're bad and they came here illegally and they're criminals, and that's great, but you deported my wife and kids. There must be some mistake"
And it's not cognitive dissonance for them. They believe the bad people should go. They believe that all the people who have gone so far deserved it. But just now there was a terrible mix-up, because they know their wife isn't a bad person. And once this mix-up is remedied, the system can continue in its useful purpose.
Agree to disagree.
Agreed! 😛
No, they are all Sociopaths/ Psychopaths. The Internet allowed them to meet and gather, and Trump gave them purpose.
We should look at this as a positive. Now they've outed themselves, and we know precisely who we have to deal with to purge the MAGA poison from the world. Leadership will be imprisoned, followers will be sidelined and prohibited from ever participating in government per the 14th Amendment, Section 3.
I feel paranoid that Night of 1000 Knives is coming, and it's kept secret to only the facists, and they are all itching for the signal to start.
Kristallnacht comes first. So keep an eye out for that. Then you can prepare for the knives.
It probably is
"Nazis" have always been a part of America, look at our founding and history.
It's America as usual to me; I fully expect Democrats to win midterms and the next Presidential election, then they will pass a bare minimum of legislation (perhaps minimum wage, it's getting comical); they will also do some unpopular things. This will somehow anger the Christians, who will again "take power", and so on.
The Republican party does not want to eliminate the Democratic party. They both rely on the other, and they also both rely on corporate dollars. See Super PACs for further details.
I don't see that changing any time soon, unless the dollar collapses, then it's going to get weird.
Yep. They just weren't as visible. The biggest thing is not their 'rise' it's rage-induced social media giving them a platform to broadcast to millions. Previously they were just on their little niche websites and before that they were making zines and pamphlets and you had to work to go find their materials.
I also agree with your read on the Democrats. They refuse to have any progressive or positive policy agenda that they enact and they keep losing out because the Republicans have very clear agenda and they aggressively enact it. Their messaging and voter outreach is atrocious and have a been a complete mess since Obama left office and even his second term was middling.
they've always had their platform, that is literally what fox news/the murdoch empire was created for
because it is.
everyone is coping on a "return to normal' (ie. unsustainable ratfucking) when trump finally croaks.
imo, this won't happen. the people who said violence will be required to remove them will require violence to be removed
Fuck they got me cause I'd be a consumer for a T shirt with that
There's nearly a 0% chance this ends with Trump dying/leaving office. It's been going on for far too long and the country is rotten to the core.
To realistically fix it, you'd need several consecutive good, pro-people governments. And even then it would still be less than likely.
Revolution or war is the only way I see this regime ending. And on the off chance it does end with the normal election process, I forsee the democrats utterly failing to prosecute anyone or make any meaningful change to ensure it doesn't happen again
My uncle told me that canada is looking to expand its militia by 300k. If thats true I need to look into signing up. I like guns, my countries sovereignty, and I loathe American governments, ideology, and culture. I will absolutely die preventing my country from being annexed or invaded or whatever other stupid thing Trump and the other drooling masses of the USA want to do.
Just while you're doing all that, don't stop paying attention to your own country's path. Regardless of what direction the US takes, other countries can also fall victim to the same things we did.
If it helps, many Americans like guns, your country's sovereignty, and loathe our current government. I'm really hoping we can start getting our shit together in 2026.
Yeah well I don’t really see you guys doing anything about it and I have little faith that you ever will.
That's fair. I go to protests but they don't have as much impact as we need and plenty of people aren't even really paying attention to what's going on. I'm making some preparations for if/when shit really hits the fan, I wish I knew other people who are as well.
Violent dictators laugh at peaceful protests.
American here ... can I join?
If america ever tries to invade canada i would EXPECT you to revolt. I know this is setting me up for disappointment but still.
Grocery prices have gone up like 120% in the last 5 years. The cost of some items has doubled in the last year. There are items that I can't order online because Canada refuses to ship to the US (I live closer to Canada than to most other states).
We are well and truly fucked my friends. Be prepared for things to keep getting worse. We will likely see things we haven't seen since the Great Depression. Go watch "The Grapes of Wrath" and let old Tom Joad show you how it's gonna be.
I heard they got some internet down californeee way
Well sure, there might be a little internet, but how much you think they got out there? With everyone trying to use it at once, it's gonna go real slow like.
It blows my mind how much they cribbed from Grapes of Wrath for that episode. You can literally see John Carradine and Henry Fonda's characters right there hanging out with Randy, same spots they were in in the film
I thought it was genius.
When kyle walked up the internet , which was just a giant router, and turned it off and on again I died.
closer to becoming RUSSIA actually than nazi germany. texas is already almost there, florida isnt far behind.
Here is the rabid Russophobe with the same nazi ideology anxious to go to the eastern front again.
In case any of you are still deluded by the orange Russian asset BS:
The US has forever been an enemy of Russia and Trum has supported, paid and facilitated the war againsqt them without interruption for 2 terms.
We know which side the fascist are.
Too delusional to even reply to.
Yet that's what all you McCarthyists always do if you're not actively posting about them, just can't help it. It's pathological.
Cry more
ALL MAGAs are corrupt, treasonous, racist, misogynist, lying, ignorant, incompetent pedophiles.
Never said otherwise.
The same as Blue MAGA only they're not hypocrites about it like the Dems.
Stay in your Russian basement, dumbass.
Stay in your basement with your idol Hitler, dumbass.
Imbecile.
LOL an americunt calling someone imbecile?
Why don't you get off the internet and try and save what's left of your banana republic that's deservedly circling the drain.
Go sing Kumbaya, resist heroically with interpretative dance or something.
Embarrassing, a joke to the world
I like to dance.
It's ok we see it clear as day from the outside
Not everyone does. I'm in Canada. I'm talking about people in Canada not seeming to get the severity of it
While I don't see us as nazi germany yet I do see us pretty far along. Even when stopped it just leads to other tactics. They went after the beuracy and with a bit of push back they are using the sychophants they have gotten into military and police entities to attack both internall and externally. There is a real question if there will be masked paramilitary "making it safe" at the next election. Absolutely everyone should be taking every opportunity to be in the streets.
I feel like a single nerve cell screaming out in pain while the rest of the body ignores everything until it's bad enough to go to the emergency room.
Ditto
Canada isn't much better.
bye nazi
Because life is perfectly safe. When was the last time you were assaulted or harassed?
Or are you just reading about it on the internet all day and not going outside?
your insistence you are not exaggerating... might mean you are exaggerating.
I live in Canada. And you wouldn't be so insistent you were safe if you were a Latino person living in the Untied States. If you are a Latino person living in the Untied States and not afraid, you're an idiot. I hope you're carrying proof of citizenship but that still may not help you
every latino person i know is highly educated and naturalized, so no they are not worried. they also live in very expensive areas where there is no ICE and they dont' give rats ass about illegal immigrants being deported. they are for it.
Why in Canada do you care about illegal immigrants in another country being deported? That's how the law is supposed to work by the way... unless you are legal you're not suppose to be here. Were we just supposed to keep going on not enforcing the laws or something?
A huge problem with Canada's economy is the massive immigration of the past 10 driving up costs for everyone and your governments refusal to limit immigration and/or build more housing and medical resources.
Holy fuck, I really need to read people's comment history before upvoting their mod requests, because turns out you're an insane misogynistic asshole I've voted into modding a dating community. Good thing the community is dead and you're extremely ostentatious about your abhorrent beliefs and the effect they have on women. Let this be a lesson to me.
i'm also a capitalist. clearly pure evil incarnate.
can't possible be i am just... different than you. and don't take that personally.
but please cherry pick my comment history and turn it into a novel about how evil i am if that makes you feel good? personally i find that a very weird thing to do. but i don't use the internet to moralize and become totally hostile to anyone who isn't in total agreement with me. but i understand that concept is 'boomer' these days, esp on reddit.
the notion that some of us don't have an agenda to push on other people... doesn't really exist to you I would guess. because any neutrality or lack of alignment with your beliefs is... wrong and bad.
i have this crazy concept that other people are allowed to disagree with me and that's OK. I'm also not an incessant doomer like most of lemmy/piefed is rapidly becoming.
Since you invited me to do so, here are some choice selections from your comment history:
Tell me more about how you don't use the internet to moralize. Even your framing of "insane misogynistic asshole" as "evil" betrays your moralization and the reason for it. I don't think you're evil, I think you're a jerk who lacks even self-empathy, needs therapy and has no business moderating a dating community.
Do I need to explain to my audience how this is misogynistic?
Speak for yourself, buddy. Ditto the previous quote.
I don't think I've ever come across a commenter who had such a propensity for bitching about other people, and in such blanket generalizations lacking all self-awareness or any sense of irony.
the ratio tho
I could go on, but this is easy and boring. Having done that tedious exercise, I find reason to pity you. You habitually project your own inadequacies and shortcomings onto others. You pretend you're just so above it all, while the amount you actually care is betrayed by the amount you write and your persistence in the face of extreme social backlash. I think you hate yourself most of all and shit on everyone else as a way of making your opinion of yourself improve by the comparison. Hence the projection.
dude, you just basically took a bunch of comments, and then interpreted them to mean what they don't mean.
but right, i'm the one whose insane. you clearly know way more about me than I know about myself. you clearly know what I meant and your projections of my intent are clearly some deep truth that i'm missing about myself right?
does it ever occur to you that maybe... you're wrong? just flat out wrong.
but hey, if you think there are monsters in the closet, and i show you there is nothing in the closet, and you still insist there are totally monsters there... you do you. you are clearly totally blinded by your pre-existing beliefs and interpreting everything i say through that lens as to distort it to fuel your need to demonize other people... to what end i can't really fathom. that rush of anger i guess?
I invite anyone who thinks I took the comments to mean something they didn't to investigate the context for themselves. Watch out for edit symbols.
It's not a pre-existing belief. I came to the belief just now and supported my belief with evidence from your comment history at which point I exclaimed, "holy fuck, I really need to read people's comment history before voting them into community moderation." Literally.
Again, I don't say you're a monster, but you've characterized yourself that way by proxy of my statements twice now. Get in therapy.
K
As I explained, I'm stressed out by my fellow countrymen ignoring the dangers and traveling to the Untied States, where Canadian tourists are getting detained.
And you're extremely ignorant to think its only illegal immigrants who are in danger.
there is no danger. if you think Trump is going to take over Canada... i worry for your mental health.
Trump does nothing but posture. he's a blowhard and most everything he does is fake and false and poorly executed.
but the media/social media lives by the outrage his comments cause, and so does he. you are just feeding the beast, so to speak.
some people are getting the book thrown at them. it sucks. it's not magically different than when biden was president either, he just throw the book at different types of people.
Stephen Miller and Pete Hegseth on the other hand...
Nothing gets better and it haven't been getting better for a long time. I've watching every warning about the rise of fascism get ignored since Bush II and everything bad that could be happening, is happening.
Did you know a company that builds crematoriums were on the showroom floor at the Border Security Expo this year? Keep an eye on Matthews Environmental Solutions.
Personally I think people want fascism, especially the extreme left and right. Even if they say they don't, they tacit cheer it on because they feel like it will give them the morally black and white world they so desperately crave and they can go sacrifice themselves for the noble cause and their life would have meaning or something.
I don't see anyone really promoting the old democratic values of the free world much anymore, and often if they do they get labeled a conservative.
Personally, I think you're just trying to be an edgelord centrist. Maybe go outside more often.
I didn't say I thought he would take over Canada. I said I'm annoyed that my grandmother thinks it's funny to tell me he will and that I'm stressed by people willingly travelling to the states where I believe they could be in danger as non-americans visiting the states. Perhaps you're confused that I care what happens to other people besides myself.
I do think Canada needs to take the threat seriously
your grandmother has a sense of humor.
why are you so stressed about what other people are doing? are you traveling to america? no, how is it relevant than?
What do you propose Canada do exactly? Ban all travel to the USA for the sake of a subgroup of citizens that may have difficulty doing so?
I'm not suggesting the government do anything. I'm suggesting Canadians stop traveling to the Untied States. Many of whom have.
Actually, I am suggesting the government prepare for the possibility of war
Like I just fucking said, I care what happens to other people besides myself
You know the administration wants to denaturalize naturalized citizens, right? And ICE has been detaining natural born citizens while claiming their identification is fake? I don't know for sure a born citizen has been sent away to a foreign prison, but it seems likely. And that's another thing, sending people to a foreign prison is different than just deporting them to where they came from.
yeah and? that's their prerogative. the american people voted this guy in, he is acting according to the platform on which he was elected.
just because you don't agree with it, doesn't mean it's the end of the world. and frankly you have no voting power anyway, so your opinion is irrelevant other than you getting high on your own righteousness?
i voted against Trump. I wish the Democrats had half the balls he does. Evil or not, he is actually trying to change this country and deal with problems that have been festering for decades. Sucks that he is so shitty and heavy handed about it, but it had to happen sooner or later. I don't think Kamala would have done a much of a better job on immigration policy, porbably just continued to kick the can down the road and pretend it wasn't an issue.
Unlike you, I am not doom and gloom about any of this. Hopefully the democrats will actually have a coherent response/policy to these things and persuade the american people to try something different.
My point was your Latino acquaintances you mentioned are still in danger even if they're naturalized, even if they're born citizens
no. they are not.
you are vastly over generalizing things due to an irrational fear response...
There's no danger whatsoever a naturalized citizen could be detained or deported? I pointed out to you that they're trying to denaturalize citizens and are detaining citizens and claiming their documents are fake and your reply amounted to "so what?"
Go stuff your head in the sand until you stop moving. A kind hearted world would be better off.
insulting people is really going to win them over to your side
I don't want you anywhere near my side.
that's precisely why Trump is in power. you don't want people on your side. you want to be morally pure. and that's a lonely place to be.
No. It isn't lonely on my patch of Earth with a lot better personalities than you.