welcome, influx of new users, to Beehaw!
to start: after some consideration, we've altered our entry question a little bit so that entry is not guaranteed. during the daytime you can basically expect waits of 30 minutes or less when it comes to approval/disapproval, but overnight it'll be anywhere from 6-12 hours. just FYI
if you'd like to introduce yourself without it getting lost in all the posts already made, i just made a thread for that over here
our sidebar should give you most of the information you're looking for about us, but to reiterate some: we are pretty relaxed here, but we have a well carved out understanding of what we want to be. if you would like more elaboration on that, you can find elaboration on that at length in the following two posts:
for some less lengthy and more relaxed elaboration, see the discussion in the comments of this post.
as for funding: we are 100% user-funded. if you would like to contribute to our ability to keep the website up, you can donate on OpenCollective, which supports both one-time donations or monthly donations.
a few other questions occasionally pop up like "why do we have the set of communities we do?" and "why can't people make their own?" (the latter is a feature of lemmy). for elaboration on that, you can see the following post and the discussions here. we are open to suggestions and creating communities as demand sees fit; see also discussion here.
downvotes are disabled on this instance and that's a thing we're not liable to change. if you'd like elaboration for why that is, see this comment. this may be a point of friction for some coming from reddit, but i hope you'll understand why we're doing it even if you don't necessarily agree with it.
if you're interested in our governance to this point and a brief idea of our long term goals, see the comment here.
feel free to sound off on other questions you have; i'll try to update the OP with those and our ability to answer them as time goes on.
I like that the website is actually nicely displayed on a mobile browser compared to reddit which makes using an app necessary.
I'm another Reddit refugee as well. Seems like Reddit gave the final push for users to find and make something better. I'm excited to see what the future holds for Beehaw and Lemmy!
Thanks for not federating the Tankies.
I'm thinking of making beehaw/lemmy my new reddit now that reddit is maybe becoming digg...
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I'm getting big digg exodus vibes right now.
I think it'll happen in waves. There were the early adopters for federated servers. Then the second wave of settlers (right now), then more and more waves will happen as the commercialization of social web platforms squeeze users of everything they have.
Culture trickles up from the deep niche communities, and one by one those communities are being suffocated. It's only a matter of time....
If reddit kills NSFW (like tumblr) we'll see the real exodus lol
Reddit could start being more and more a porn site than anything else.
what's craziest to me is that I've actually gone back to digg, at least for interesting article aggregation. it's like pocket, but more frequent churn to distract me from *gestures broadly*
LOL
I legitimately thought that digg didn't exist anymore.
I might throw it back into my rotation.
I wouldn't say it's great, but it's another batch of stuff to read during the day. I added it to my inoreader feed, but did end up stashing it in an "Unsure" folder because I only click on like one out of 10 of them. Still, it exists!
Hello, all. I'm considering migrating an existing subreddit to a Lemmy instance, and it's great to see the community here and how it all works.
I have a question about server scaling though. Could anyone provide any insight into the size of the hardware or VPS instance that is hosting beehaw, and how many pageviews/hr or pageviews/month it supports?
Thank you in advance.
Reddit refugee here, this place seems awesome! Just wondering, as a long time Apollo user, do you have any recommendations for using how you all use this on iPhone? Are there any great apps to use, or is the mobile website our best bet for now?
One of the reasons I’m actually using it is because I didn’t have to install a heavy app for it 🙃
not sure whether it has an iOS variant but the big one everyone seems to use is Jerboa; failing that though people have given me the impression the mobile website should be usable if a little inconvenient at times.
There’s an app for iOS in beta testing called Mlem. It’s limited for now, but it works nicely.
Thank you for approving my request andwelcoming me here! I wish I had found out about Beehwaw earlier, but better late than never 😉.
I'm looking to forget reddit. Any tips on hiding posts or filtering out common posts talking about Reddit, etc.
Subscribe to communities and set your preferences to show posts from only your subscribed communities by default on the home page.
I have a question regarding the sign-up process - given that Beehaw is federated with other instances and people can post here using other instance accounts, doesn't that make the whole stringent sign-up requirements entirely moot? Like, if someone is denied from signing up here, what's preventing them from posting here anyways from a different instance?
No account from a blocked instance can post here.
nothing. that's overall good since basically of our denials are banal and a lot of them we'd be saying "hey, please reapply with more detail on why you want to be here" since i don't think anybody's really registering in bad faith. we also moderate them to our instance's standards if they come here from somewhere else, obviously.
Thanks for the warm welcome, I'm happy to see somewhere new besides Reddit (Yet another Reddit refugee, natch). New to federated type content, and I was initially thrown off by the multiple server style, rather than the central system Reddit employs, so this is going to be a learning experience. Please forgive any faux pas on my part while I get acquainted ^_^
An easy way to think about federation is similar to email
When you set up an account on a centralised service, your username is simply "duskyheaps" as you only go to the one site.
With federation, you have a collection of servers and you create an account on one instance and so you become "[email protected]".
You could create an account on lemmy.ml and that would be "[email protected]".
Once you account for this, you'll find it easier to find people or communities on other servers. Off the top of my head and this maybe incorrect but it would be something like "beehaw.org/[email protected]" (I'll come back and edit this to correct it)
edit 2: Before anyone gets confused by this comment, here is some solution. The examples here are how a web browser displays the URL in the address field. For a link to work in the federation, the browser must be made to assume we want to link to another webpage within the same domain (that is, the server we are logged on to). This is done by omitting the domain from a HTML referance. Of course. It's W3C standard. See this post which clarified it: https://lemmy.ml/post/1168136.
... unfortunately, links to federated posts and comments are still broken because posts synced to other instances get a different ID than the original.
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original comment:
"beehaw.org/c/[email protected]" -- example: beehaw.org/c/lemmy_[email protected]
or lemmy-specific syntax that will bring up a list of communities known to your instance as you type, and choosing from there will make it a link: "![email protected]" -- example: [email protected]
... unfortunately, this dosnt work for lnks
edit: seems that i just uncovered a
bugsystemic inconvenience, because the link that is generated leads you directly to that instance's webserver ... which we don't want if this is posted on our home instance (because the link should actually enable us to post on that remote instance). otoh, if we are viewing this from a third instance, then a link "instance2.org/c/[email protected]" would likely not work at all. (right?)check: beehaw.org/sopuli.xyz/c/[email protected] -- nope!
check: /c/[email protected] -- yep!
How dose cross instance login work? I assumed I would be able to login to other servers too but I don't seem to be able to. What happens to users if a server goes down?
You won't be able to login to other servers. You will, however, be able to interact with others servers from beehaw. For example, if you search for "technology", you will see beehaw.org/c/[email protected], and you can subscribe, post, upvote, etc.. All from beehaw.
Is registration for new users still open? I applied for a new account some time ago.
yes but:
1: we have a new entry question;
and 2: we're seeking clarification from the lemmy devs on something which is really important to how we've been doing approvals or denials
so everything is kind of awkward right now. we're definitely not approving users at quite the pace we were.
Okay, thanks for responding.
hello! i'm excited to participate in this community and i'm looking forward to seeing how it grows. to briefly introduce myself, IRL i'm an engineering student and community activist, online i'm a writer and game developer. i speak Cebuano, English, Tagalog, and German.
i'm also on tech.lgbt (mastodon) as well if anyone wants to connect there. :)
i appreciate the community-focused perspective and the restorative justice approach to accountability that Beehaw has. i discovered this through the main lemmy site and was instantly sold. one question i have is - and sorry if what i'm asking isn't entirely coherent, but - how does Beehaw's governance work? is that enumerated somewhere? most social media communities are semi- or fully authoritarian, and while Beehaw seems to differ, i'm just curious if there's some kind of document or ongoing community discussion about how Beehaw is run.
right now: the governance is pretty simple so we haven't bothered to enumerate it anywhere or anything. in the future we probably will now that we have a lot more users. we've talked through a lot of this stuff in the year and a half of the website to this point.
for the time being: it's the three of us admins (me, Gaywallet, Chris Remington) currently and on anything more substantial than "obviously bad faith person" we tend to collectively talk through decisions to the best ability possible/time permitting. if we add more admins, they'll also have that kind of input. unless otherwise stated you can pretty much assume we've all agreed to something if it's in effect here. it's not explicitly written anywhere, but i'd also say we're interested in community input when possible (and within the confines of the mission we have), because we don't have a website without users, lol
on the backend, Chris currently controls the website, pays our bills, and stuff like that, but all three of us have access to the components that run the website and the financials. in the event he has to step away or something similar, we will be able to take control as needed.
in the very, very long term and feasibility permitting we would like to have some sort of democratically elected board controlling the website and its broader goal (ideally a co-operative),1 but right now we're really just trying to keep the website going and be financially solvent.
hopefully that sort of gives an idea--i'm sure the other mods may have input here also, so i'll shoot them this comment in the morning
Footnotes
and yeah, we're aware of the potential drawbacks and points of failure that could introduce, hence why it's a very long term goal. that's a sort of thing we'd need to do responsibly, if we can do it at all! ↩
Yet another reddit refugee. Excited to be here, and thanks for having me.
My first comment in this community.
Hello. I'm just another Reddit refugee (I know, I'm not original). Thanks for allowing these rafts to get ashore, and sorry for the 500 error. I guess the influx of so many of us arriving here now can be blamed for that. Let's hope we can also contribute to keep this a good place. Hey, older members here: any good advice for us to do so? Thanks!
Thanks - I saw your reply about Beehaw having been up for a year and a half; if I'd of just dug a bit m0re before asking... :P This post, and links, answer all my questions - I'm st0ked to be here, l33t speak and all. :P Thanks for all the great Beehaw informationz here, seems very transparent... for now. :P I'm glad to be here, and to dig around this Lemmy softwarez and federations... maybe I'll lurk beyond Beehaw... in a bit.
pAULIE42o . . . . . . . . . . . /s
Hi all. Another refugee from reddit that just joined today. Thanks for letting me in!
I haven't given up entirely on reddit, but I'm getting pretty darn close. Been a redditor for nearly 13yrs now. I've also been on Tildes for 4yrs now. I've tried various reddit-likes over the years including Imzy and Voat (before it turned into a raging cesspool).
Anyway, let's see how this fediverse stuff goes. Not sure I entirely understand how federated services work, but excited to find out.
I looked at Voat on day 1. I'm willing to say it wasn't a cesspool for about 3 days. It got pretty hard to enjoy being there pretty quickly.
Edit: It was nice while it lasted though :P
You're right. I guess I forgot that people migrated to Voat in the wake of FPH and other hate-filled subreddits getting banned. So Voat got pretty awful pretty quick.
That's sad, Voat was pretty well made.
How so, maybe we can learn from it.
Yeah true, it was a well made reddit clone, but I agree, Lemmy working with the fediverse has its avantages, it should prevent what happened here.
I am really glad to be here , loving beehaw so far . Thank you guys for taking another refuge in 🫂
Appreciate your promptness Alyaza, thank you for having us in your community!
it was nice of reddit to drop this mid-day when i have nothing going on, so i can just camp all the new registrations and approve them in a few minutes. we're hopeful that there won't be too many difficulties incorporating all the new people, because this is already by far the most people we've added in one day lol
Reading through "what is Beehaw" resonated with me because besides the API cost changes, the other catalyst that caused me to say enough is enough was a recent post on /r/baseball where I noticed people said they were afraid of saying any normal, average banter because one of their friends had their account banned by reddits "AEO (anti-evil operations) bot", which I had never heard of before.
That led me to a post complaining about AEO by an /r/baseball mod saying how strict it was, not allowing people to engage in normal, regular baseball banter. That modpost was from over a year ago and the issue has gotten worse, not better. Seeing proof from a mod of a large subreddit, combined with some of the insane communities I've seen been allowed to fester on reddit was very eye-opening.
Apologies for coming to your site and immediately linking back to Reddit. Just thought I'd explain more about my personal reasons for wanting to leave a website I've used since the beginning (does the narwhal bacon after midnight?), especially after reading some of your personal philosophies that seem to align with why I've become so frustrated with Reddit.
oh yeah no even as a lurker on reddit, it just feels... i dunno, sanitized? homogeneous? uninteresting? to browse a lot of the time. and not even in a way where it's protecting marginalized users from abuse, or just people from other users being extremely unpleasant to interact with. i would at least feel better--if not content--about the site if it was doing that, but a lot of the time honestly engaging with reddit is socially punished and that sucks!
yo QUESTION. how much freedom do users have here? can i say swearsies? or talk negatively about a minority? discuss bomb making?
The easiest question to ask yourself is, can I do this while still being nice? And when I say being nice, I mean, would other people reasonably interpret this as nice?
Saying fuck yeah, for example, in celebration is very different from saying fuck you. So there's no clear cut answer here to your questions. What matters is both intent and how it's perceived.
Fuck yes!
Please, no.
Please, no.
Server rule: Only F-bombs are allowed.
Well, shit.
Ahoy! I originally joined here a few weeks ago, when Reddit first started rumbling about charging for API access, but didn't really post anything until today.
So hello all!
Quick question: At the top of this thread it says that there are 55 comments, but I can see maybe 1/3 of those. Where have the rest gone? I commented on another post that had 4 comments, but I couldn't see any of them...
Glad to be here. The lack of downvotes and also the focus on trying to navigate the fine-line of dialogue while not advocating for hate made me interested in joining this site.
Hi! I'm excited to be a part of this community. Is it possible for users to create their own subforums on beehaw? (Not sure what the word on here for that is)
there is on lemmy as a software, but since it's a binary toggle (there's no way to limit who can and can't outside of admins or all users), we have user creation disabled on here. but we're really generous when it comes to community suggestions so as long as there'd be a relatively decent sized audience for something we'll make it (this is why we have /c/DIY and /c/FOSS, for example--those were suggested).
incidentally, your post made me wonder if limitations more fine-toothed than all or nothing for a setting like this would be technically possible. might have to refer that one to lemmy devs
Currently no. We're more than happy to create a new community if there's enough interest and support, but we don't want a lot of inactive communities either. For now, post in the most relevant place or let us know what you'd like to see.
Big thanks to you and /u/alyaza for the insightful responses, that's understandable.
The only community I feel I'm missing on beehaw is the shitposting/circlejerk communities. It would be nice to have a shitposting forum for memes and stuff.
I also just approved some users on feddit.de :)
Been with Reddit since the early days, just after the migration from Digg. This is my first federated service and I love the idea. I don't use social media outside of Reddit so while I heard of Mastadon, I didn't really know what it was. Big companies like to run stuff into the ground.
I'm really liking the idea of Lemmy.
Mastodon, like Twitter, I just don't really "get". Why follow people? I want to follow topics, ideas. Centering conversations on who started them, rather than what they are about, seems strange.
I never understood Twitter or used it much except occasionally to follow links from news reports or check on the status of sites that went down. I am prone to writing longer posts than fit within the character limit and also like reading more in depth content than you get with such a short character limit, so mostly Twitter didn't seem like my sort of environment.
Even so, I was curious about the exodus to Mastodon and tried it and Calckey out. I found lots of introductions by scientists and started following their hashtags and following individual scientists in a variety of fields that I was curious about and some of them provide links to pretty interesting articles and books in their fields. I am starting to understand the appeal of following people. Sometimes the right people can provide an inside look at a topic or serve as a curator of decent quality links relating to their area of knowledge that you might not be exposed to through lay people with the same interest.
I'm here now. But where is here? 🤔🤷♂️
just a website, just like reddit :)
For what it's worth I was going to join Beehaw but I like downvotes. I'm still sore that YouTube removed them. So I'd like to vote for downvotes lol.
Sorry, this is not something we're willing to budge on. You're still, of course, welcome to participate on our instance so long as you're nice 😊
Hello, all - YARR (Yet Another Reddit Refugee).
The coming shutdown of all 3rd party Reddit apps finally pushed me into action. I've been enjoying Mastodon and excited to checkout Lemmy
I read this as you just saying YARRRR like a pirate lol
Glad to be here, there's so much room for activities
Hello everyone, another Reddit Refugee saying hello!
A bit of history, I was on Digg, and after they ruined that I joined Reddit (how many years ago was that already??). Lurking around ever since.
I really do appreciate the civil and social attitude here-- let's build a great, open and accepting community!
Wow, I have completely forgotten about Digg. Reddit should remember that story though, wouldn't be the first time that users are leaving in troves after bad management decisions.
I noticed you have @lemmy.ml. Does that mean you posted this from another instance? How did you do so?
Sorry for the dumb question. New to Lemmy/Fediverse stuff.
Pretty much, yeah. It means their account is hosted by lemmy.ml and they saw this post and commented on it. Every server has its own local posts and discussion boards and whatnot, but they're open for everyone to see and interact with. They could even make their own post on our server if we had a topic board that interested them.
Think of it kiiiiind of like [email protected] sending an email to [email protected] or to [email protected] Since they all use the email standard they can all interact with each other no problem.
So if I wanted to be safe, I should go to every Lemmy instance I can and register my username so that in case one goes down I can still use the login from another instance, right?
I mean, it would be like creating an email address from every domain you can just so you can keep sending emails if one domain goes down.
They'll all be entirely separate accounts.
Makes sense. Especially if I want this username everywhere, right?
Yeah but your username is both halves, it's just inside the instance Lemmy drops the second half fit convince's sake. It would be like if someone asked what your email was and you didn't give the domain.
It's been just under 13 years since Digg v4 triggered a mass migration to Reddit.
Here's hoping Lemmy lasts at least that long!
Glad to bee here, sad seeing reddit go out like twitter. But I guess that's what happens when you put profit over users.
Being able to comment on this chain from my own instance of lemmy is really cool. Beehaw looks to have many good communities, will definitely be hanging out here, even as a non-user on the site.
Howdy! Left Digg when it started south, was a Redditor since May 2007, and now I'm here instead. :)
Well, this is my first time here, just got approved! Hello everyone! I'm another small part of the Reddit migration I guess!
I'm a reddit refugee too. It's so interesting to see that almost all the comments are 1) from actual people, and 2) conversing in way actual humans might if they weren't on the internet.
I'm glad there's a free, open source, federated version of the thing I've been using for years. 4 years on digg I believe, and 13 on reddit. The more I think about the history of discussion forums like this. It probably should have been federated in the first place rather than trying to be a centralized thing.
anyway, glad to be here.
Here's to the Digg 4.0 > reddit API $$$ > Lemmy crew!
Represent! Love being a part of history. I'll tell my kids about this some day.
Somehow "the first rule of reddit" got forgotten, and suddenly everyone knew about it. That's about when it went downhill.
Another redditor checking in here👋, been using Mastodon for a while now, I hope reddit's silly decision comes to benefit the fediverse!
Thanks for the quick approval, I'm here after the reddit news.
Besides, I think I needed to get off reddit anyway, the discussions there are getting stale and repetitive for years now
Here's to a good community
Message to the new users:
Communities like this struggle to get started without corporate backing and marketing money. Once we hit a critical mass the quality of the content and number of users will keep increasing.
Please help by:
Relevant links:
Reddit mods announce the api update
Link to the apolloapp thread
Link to r/programming thread
Link to r/technology thread
thanks for having me :)
Also arrived here after this news. I mainly use rif for android, and my reddit usage will undoubtly crash. Though I'll still be around as long as I have old.reddit + RES. Lets see how far it goes.
RES is something I'd really like here - I think there's definitely a good plugin waiting to be developed giving things like one click to subscribe to other instances and RES-style navigation and QoL features.
Joining the movement!
incidentally, from what i can tell: you are user 1,000 on here, so congrats
No way! That's awesome haha.
🏅
Lucky
Hi Hi. Thanks for approving me so fast mod team! Like many others I'm a reddit refuge. I can't stand what the modern internet is becoming with the likes of these massive social media companies and their monetization practices. So my hope is to find a bunch of cool and friendly people on here who can chit chat freely. Thanks agan!
I love that people are realizing we don't actually have to monetize socializing.
It's so much better. No advertising in your face. No algorithms to control what you see. Just plain ol' post ranking via up and down votes.
Glad to have another excuse to drop a walled-garden platform. After a few months my mastodon feed has become more engaging than my twitter ever was, and I'm looking forward to joining some communities of excellent people here!
This place is way more alive than when I signed up, I'm getting excited!
I've hated walled gardens for a long time and I'm glad to see a lot of users are heading for federated alternatives. It strips away all of the weird tracking and algorithms and just lets us interact normally.
It really shows how much the engagement algorithms favor rage-bait, doesn't it?
Yeah it's so freaking weird. Any reasonable person building a reasonable social network would promote interconnectedness and positive social behavior. Yet all the major social networks seem to promote angry behavior and angry people. I'm so glad that more and more people are choosing to "leave the matrix". I would love to see if future where everything social media is federated and algorithms are optional at most.
Yes. It's surprising how different it is when it's just a generic algorithm.
Most platforms got progressively worse over the last decade and being here makes me realise how far we fell.
Thanks for the approval! I’m already enjoying beehaw. Does anybody know if there’s a iOS app that can facilitate my pleasure for beehaw/Lemmy?
Browser seems to work fairly well! Leagues beyond the shit of Reddit on mobile browser.
Hi!
Edit: Took a bit for me to post, but finally figured out my problem. So thanks the approval. Learned of this via Reddit and I really like the concept of the fediverse sowas real happy to see this. I am a degrees Chemist, mostly do quality system work now for chemical distribution. Enjoy cooking, fishkeeping and working in my yard. Happy to talk about any subject!
Thanks for the approval! Fark>Digg>Reddit>Lemmy?
That path looks familiar!
Any idea how you're going to handle a larger influx? Manually approving a few hundred people is one thing, but what about tens of thousands?
if it ever got that bad we'd probably just turn off applications, tbh lol. anyone that interested in us can wait, and we're not super interested in permagrowth or anything
It would be interesting to see the Lemmy registration numbers due to the upcoming reddit implosion
that is possible through this page, FYI
51,661 users as of this comment! Yay!