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lemmy.world

what a profoundly stupid country

if you make peaceful protest illegal, how do you think discourse will develop from there?

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Oh it's actually worse than that. Protesting isn't illegal, it's just that the government and the police get to choose which protests are allowed.

What this means is that they can have the illusion of allowing protests but actually ban protests but they don't like. Case in point, Tommy Robinson's rallies are allowed, but protests against the genocide in Gaza can be shut down if somebody mentions the words "Palestine" and "action".

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That's the point. The governments don't give a damn about you or the issues. You must simply never disagree with them.

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Violent protest will be inevitable, at which point their only option is force and it's a question mark what happens after that.

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feddit.nl

Why do you think they want discourse? Seems pretty clear they don't want people to be able to criticize the government

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lemmy.zip

Green Peace went militant and lost a ton of support. I’ve already seen this movie a few times now. The UK is making an example with Greta before a legit army forms behind her. Go against the grain, you get the ax.

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They're not letting the Met do anything.

They're explicitly instructing them to, with proscription and their crackdown on protest moreso than the Tories did.

We have red Tories in charge just now instead of blue Tories. It's the Democrats and Republicans in America all over again. And because both flavours of Tory are shite, people are dissatisfied and terrifyingly pledging their support to Reform (aka the fascist party) instead.

Your Party (socialists) and The Greens (environmentally focused social democrats-ish) are also gaining vote share but alarmingly not at the same rate as Reform.

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lemmy.zip

What the actual fuck am I on about? Rudé Booty much?

I’m talking about loud voices with good opinions/intentions being silenced by the government so the government can keep power and profit before said voices get too loud.

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9point6reply
lemmy.world

My reaction was to do with your insinuation this has anything to do with green peace. Which it categorically does not

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bitjunkiereply
lemmy.world

The top-level comment was an allusion to the JFK quote "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

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lemmy.world

Sure, and I was responding to the line that weirdly blamed green peace for something they had nothing to do with

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He was using it as a counter example to the idea that if peaceful protest is being blocked, violent ones will be more effective. Not sure I agree with his take, but he's definitely not blaming Greenpeace for this.

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lemmings.world

I like this Palestine Action group.

Meaningful change has never happened without people fighting back. Look at how many people got arrested during the Civil Rights movement in the US.

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They definitely got Streisand‘

In the sense that now everyone has heard of them because of the UK‘s efforts to ban them.

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aussie.zone

I don't care if someone holds a sign supporting a real terrorist group like ISIS, holding a sign is not a crime!

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Someone is gonna kill that woman. Most likely whoever does it will get rewarded for it under the table.

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