We are paying taxes for a "Premium Subscription" to basic survival
I just saw a video that perfectly captures the current state of living in India, and it’s honestly exhausting. It feels like as citizens, we are paying full price for a government “service” that provides absolutely nothing in return. Want clean water??Buy a freaking water purifier Want clean air??Buy a fucking air purifier Want 24/7 electricity???Install a god damn inverter Want quality education???Spend lakhs in pvt school fees
Seeing a clean road in your locality feels like a miracle rather than a basic right. Even the food we eat is compromised fake panner,coloured pulses the food regulations seem non existent. Russia se sasta oil kaun kharid rha – Ambani Usse export karke pel kar profit kaun kama rha Ambani and tariffs kispe lag rhe the people of India,petrol mai 20% ethanol kaun milla rha Gadkari nuksaan kiska ho rha the people of India. And whenever there is a major controversy or a failure in governance—like the recent international probes into major business groups(Adani)—toh parliament mai vande Mataram ke discussion pe blame kispe ho rha Jawaharlal Nehru. There is reason why i never post on defence related topics kyuki what’s the benefit of building muscles outside if you are suffering from all the diseases possible inside. NGL living in India feels like a scam.I like this country a lot but i know that this country is not gonna love me back. Yahan ke politicians madarchod hai yahn ki judiciary madarchod hai yahn ke log madarchod hai yahan ki jameen polluted hai yahan ka water polluted hai yahan ki hawa polluted aur yahan noise pollution bhi bahut gyada hain,samjhdaar log desh chodh rhe aur chutiye desh mai accumulate ho rhe. I think bharat is beyond repair. Slowly my love for this country is also fading just like my childhood faded away. But kya kar sakte hai foreign jayange toh wahan bhi racism milega.Best thing to do is to not give a fuck about this country kyuki jo aisa kar rhe wohi khush hain iss desh mai.
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I feel your pain bro, I do believe the people are good tho, ignorant and misled but good. But 100% on the most of the rest. I do think repair is possible and partly I do think that's cause we as a people are just exhausted (like generationally), so we need to get our priorities straight.
Brother, I agree to your point of view, except the point it is beyond repair, history itself is the proof, if we have fell we have also rose to new heights. These are not dead ends, these are challenges required to face, with determination and servitude to the nation and its people. Can't say about you, but I was born in this country and I will serve it and will die serving it, striving to make it better. People can leave, but they are leaving not just a land, but a culture, a place that they once called home. If everyone in this world start fleeing to places which are better off, do you think there will be stability in this world.
And brother that is exactly why we must stay, still respect your views, just try being a bit polite next time. For this once, I will let your cussing slide. Keep posting and commenting.
History doesn’t automatically correct anything. Nations rise because people leave bad systems, learn from better ones, and bring competence back—not because they sit around chanting loyalty slogans. For every “we rose again” story, there are dozens of civilizations that never recovered because people like you kept saying “stay and suffer, it’s our duty.” Survival ≠ progress. Endurance ≠ success.
A challenge is something you can solve with effort. Corruption, broken institutions, poor governance, and zero accountability are not challenges — they are design flaws. When the system punishes competence and rewards mediocrity, staying is not bravery, it’s self-sabotage dressed up as patriotism.
Being born somewhere is not a moral contract signed in blood. A country is supposed to serve its citizens, not demand martyrdom from them like some insecure cult. Blind loyalty to land over life, dignity, and opportunity is how governments get away with doing nothing.
Culture isn’t geography. You don’t lose your language, values, or identity because you crossed a border. People leave because the system failed them — not because they lack character, but because they refuse to waste their only life proving loyalty to a broken setup.
Aur Bhai sab leave nhi kar rhe.....wohi log desh chodh rhe jo iss country mai koi future nhi dekh rhe.
And staying doesn't make you noble aur a patriot.You can stay and do nothing — useless. You can leave, gain skills, capital, influence, and still contribute — valuable. Geography is irrelevant. Impact is what matters, not chest-thumping loyalty speeches.
Bhai desh ye mera bhi hai so why would I mock my own country?????? But it is a known fact ki ye desh ka kuch nhi ho sakta and if in a hypothetical situation koi bahut knowledgeable politician comes to power then also the country will likely take more than a century to be repaired.....
Aur desh ko badlna hai toh system ka part banna padta hai bass lemmy pe current affairs ke baare pe post karne se 0 impact hoga desh ki development pe......in none of your post until now you have mentioned anything about the existing problems in our country ki desh mai paper leak ho rha,road pe log mar rhe,gunda gardi chal rhi,aur lack of civic sense......
But will migratinng to a country change the situation. Do you really think a land is just a geography. People like you are the ones who'd say during partition "Lets give some of our land to Pakistan, its just a land, just geography". A land is not just a land, that land contains its history, history of wars, history of resilience, history of people who never left and rather decided to improve the place we are living in. We don't want useless people, they won't do any good even if they stay, we need people who are useful, who can contribute, who can fix problems.
Don't become like peopel who leave the country when things are wrong and when situations improve you pat your back and try to claim your origin from it.
Who says blind loyalty? Ask for your right, but can you do that by leaving the country. People like APJ Abdul Kalam, Bhabha, all these scientists were promised a comfortable life abroad, did they leave? No, if they too had the same point of view as yours, would we even have what we have today? They instead stayed, fixed and reformed the country, and thats all I am asking to do as well and I will do the same too. Agar sab ye sochte rahe ki yha opportunity hai chale jate hain, can there ever be change?
You said for change we need to be part of a system, then can you bring change by leaving the country? Yes we need to become a part of the system but agar keval system ka part banke change laya ja sakta hai toh saare social media platforms ko ban kardena chahiye. Kyu chahiye freedom of speech, sab log system ka part ban jao, but that is not possible. Ham logo mein se shayad koi ek ya do hi ban paye, but kya baaki sab ka opinion matter nhi karta, ye community unh sa ki awaaz hai, ye community ek zariya hai ki hamari awaaz higher authorities tak pahunche. Isme time lagega, yes.
Maybe you have not seen my previous posts, we have discussed about how we can improve MSMEs conditions and promote manufacturing, we even discuss foeign policies here including recent RELOS agreement. Jab in sab chizo se related koi news aayegi, we will discuss about it in detail, toh hamari reach bhi badh jayegi and more people will be able to contribute.
You’re still confusing emotion with logic. No one said land is “just geography” in a shallow sense — what’s being said is that geography alone doesn’t guarantee progress. History, wars, and resilience are facts, not solutions. They explain where a country came from, not why present systems keep failing. Respecting the past doesn’t mean accepting permanent dysfunction in the present. Dono cheezein ek saath ho sakti hain.
And please stop using Partition as an analogy — it’s intellectually dishonest. Partition was forced, violent, and collective. Migration is voluntary and individual. Equating the two is like saying leaving a bad job is the same as burning the company down. Ye sirf guilt-tripping hai, argument nahi.
You say “we don’t want useless people, we want people who stay and fix problems.” But staying by itself has never fixed anything. Most people who stay are not reforming institutions, drafting policy, or enforcing law — they’re just surviving within a system that rewards conformity and punishes competence. Sirf yahin rehna contribution hota, toh corruption, paper leaks, road deaths, and judicial delays ab tak normal hi nahi hote.
The Kalam and Bhabha example is classic survivorship bias. They were rare exceptions operating in very specific conditions. You can’t design expectations for an entire population based on one-in-a-million outcomes. For every Kalam, there are millions of capable people blocked by bureaucracy, nepotism, and zero accountability. And let’s be honest — both of them had global exposure. India’s scientific growth didn’t come from isolation or moral lectures, it came from engaging with the world.
You ask whether change is possible if people leave. The uncomfortable truth is this: people don’t leave because change is impossible; they leave because the system makes staying irrational. Migration isn’t the cause of decline — it’s a symptom of institutional failure. Countries improve when they become worth staying in, not when citizens are emotionally blackmailed into endurance.
About freedom of speech and online communities — discussion is important, yes, but let’s not pretend debate automatically translates into reform. Social media gives voice, not power. Power sits in institutions, incentives, and enforcement. Talking is not the same as changing. Warna desh kab ka transform ho chuka hota, kyunki discussion ki kami toh bilkul nahi hai.
And this idea that leaving means you lose the right to question or contribute is flawed. Contribution isn’t limited by borders. People can leave, gain skills, capital, credibility, and still influence change far more meaningfully than someone who stayed and adapted to dysfunction. Geography doesn’t define impact — outcomes do.
Finally, staying doesn’t automatically make someone brave or patriotic. Leaving doesn’t make someone selfish or disloyal. A country is meant to serve its citizens, not demand lifelong sacrifice in exchange for emotional pride. Calling suffering “duty” doesn’t fix systems — it just normalizes failure.
Desh sudharne ke liye sirf sehna nahi, systems ka kaam karna zaroori hota hai. Aur jab system hi competence ko reject kare, toh exit ek moral failure nahi — ek rational response hota hai......
You are right about only a very specific part but everything other than that you are wrong. Yes, a strong history does not justify us sitting idle in chaos, but if we look into it and learn we can get teachings on how to get out of the situation we currently are in. The question is, how many of us are ready to do so?
When I compared calling the country just a land and partition, I was not comparing the activity or event, I was comparing the mindset and you cannot deny both the mindsets are like the branches of the same tree.
As I said, we need skilled people who can fix this country and each and every person is skilled in his own way, we can use his skill somehow or the other. As you mentioned and called Abdul Kalam and Bhabha as 'exceptions', at the time when they were offered these priveleges, they were no exception, atleast not in their own eyes or of the majority of the world. They were just a common man doing ther job and their mind was fixed on one thing, "Duty and Service". You can call it fanatic but that is how nations are made.
What do you think, most of our policy makers are good thinkers? No, they are just good speakers, we need thinkers, people who are willing enough to become a part of the system. You are preaching about system, are you yourself willing to become a part of it? Because I am and I will. You see, just sitting on a chair and comparing and running your fingers on keyboard about why Indian is worst etc and why we should leave, have you ever yourself ever thought of fixing this syestemic problem rather than just demotivating even the people who wish to stay in the nation to make it better?
Our leaders severly lack discussion, this is the truth, they lack real discussions on how Laws are made and systems are made. We do not want Idea-less leaders in future, we need a leader who has plans, who knows what he is doing and who all will his decisions affect and that is why meaningful discussions are required. No one can become the part of the system in just one day, and if he does become one day, he must know his goal and targets, and discussions such as we do here, gives the most important component for that and that is 'Exposure'. To new ideas, ideologies and everything else.
So yes we lack a lot, but we will not continue to be lacking and for that we all must strive. Yes even by staying in foriegn, good can be done, if a student returns after getting international exposure and Knowledge to do the same in his country, it is a good initiative, many scientists even did that, and I support it, what I don't support is becoming an asset for some other country while their country suffers. Because if everybody kept running to lavish offers then and organisation like ISRO would never exist. Who would like to transport parts of rocket from a bullock Cart and assemble it and launch it from a Church, if they too had the same mindset as yours, ISRO would never even would have been established, and that was not just one scientist that created ISRO, there were thousands of them who stayed and that is why ISRO is what it is today.
And all of this can happen in other sectors to, if we try.
You’re confusing moral passion with structural reality. History teaches lessons only when systems are capable of absorbing them; ours routinely isn’t. Progress doesn’t happen because enough individuals feel “duty,” it happens when incentives reward competence and punish failure. Right now, the system does the opposite. Asking “how many are ready” already admits the problem: nations don’t run on sacrifice-heavy heroism, they run on scalable institutions.
Your Kalam–Bhabha and ISRO examples are selective mythology. They succeeded because they were given rare insulation, autonomy, and meritocratic space—conditions missing in most sectors today. Suffering wasn’t the virtue; institutional protection was. Romanticising struggle while ignoring this gap is convenient but dishonest. If duty alone built nations, we’d be a superpower already.
People leaving aren’t betraying culture; they’re responding rationally to broken structures. Talent doesn’t owe martyrdom to geography. A strong nation retains people by offering opportunity and dignity, not by shaming them into staying. Hope and loyalty without reform aren’t patriotism—they’re denial.
Aur Bhai iss desh mai koi padha likha aadmi part bann bhi nhi sakta system ka......for ex in the recent bihar elections prashant kishore spoke about development, employment and growth instead of yapping religious slogans like other parties and you know much seat did his party secure of the the 238 seats?????NOT EVEN A SINGLE. Jis desh ke har 5 mai se ek aadmi illiterate ho uss desh mai aap development ki baat karenge......... Apj abdul indeed did a good job but do you know that some illiterate ministers still criticise him........ Usse chodho Sonam Wangchuk ko jail gaye 4 mahina hone wala hai.....that man spent a considerable amount of his life for the growth his country and what the country returned???????The title of "Traitor"......agar wo koi aur country chala jate toh sayad wahan ki government unhe aur resources provide karti lekin yahan toh..................
That's why I say ki THIS COUNTRY IS DOOMED AND IS BEYOND REPAIR if you still don't agree with me enjoy in your Bharat (or shall I say a Gas Chamber).......
We have learnt from our mistakes, intensity however may vary, but we are learning and improving. Nothing is completely good or bad, it isgrey, in today's time, if 5 things are bad, 5 things are good too. Initiatives are being taken.
Yes, OUR so called Abdul Kalam and Bhabha (The way you address them) got the environment and that is why they were able to bring that change, but was that environment always there? No, they fought fo it and they eventually got it. Goverenment too has limits and now it must listen, The goverenment gave priority to space, now it is booming, it is a living example of this fact that change is possible through systemic reforms rather than money intense forceful ones, and if we strive enough, the goverenment will be forced to obey.
The problem today is, no one is truly doing their duty. No citizen obeys rules, politicians crumble the rules they themselves made, that is the problem, the problem is detachment from duty, duty towards society and nation.
About Bihar elections and Sonam Wangchuk, I will only say after gatherng proper information because I have not yet studied those subjects. But yes, this nation can be repaired, and if you don't agree, take your passport and feel free to leave.
Still, thnks for telling your views