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U.S. Coast Guard will no longer classify swastikas, nooses as hate symbols

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The U.S. Coast Guard will no longer classify the swastika — an emblem of fascism and white supremacy inextricably linked to the murder of millions of Jews and the deaths of more than 400,000 U.S. troops who died fighting in World War II — as a hate symbol, according to a new policy that takes effect next month.

Instead, the Coast Guard will classify the Nazi-era insignia as “potentially divisive” under its new guidelines. The new policy, set to take effect Dec. 15, similarly downgrades the definition of nooses and the Confederate flag, though display of the latter remains banned, according to documents reviewed by The Washington Post.

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sopuli.xyz

Sounds like a good time to make insignias of swastikas hanging from nooses.

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A picture of exactly that, several swastikas dangling from nooses, would make a great cartoon or art-piece.

Maritime Christmas Ornaments if you want to be seasonal.

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lemmy.world

They can reclassify all they like, people still know when they see someone wearing one of those symbols, they're looking at a POS.

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feddit.org

You're talking about Americans here... The current state of america is a mirror reflection of its majority of people.

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drzoidbergreply
lemmy.world

The majority of Americans aren't conservatives. Less than 1/3 of adults voted for trump. That's not a majority in any kind of math.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

No, but a majority either supports it or doesn't care enough to even vote against it. Trump won the popular vote

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There's no realistic option for "voting against" fascism.

Trump won the unpopular vote with like 20% of citizens. The other fash party got even less. Evil, broken system.

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Yes, we live in a fake democracy founded by racist enslavers in order to violently enforce the disgusting privilege of a tiny tiny few.

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tomi000reply
lemmy.world

So where are those people that are vastly outnumbering the nazis?

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ltxrtquqreply
lemmy.ml

They're probably out "not being political" and are ignorant to most curent events.

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kautaureply
lemmy.world

"If 10 people are sitting at a table being civil to 1 nazi, there are 11 nazis at the table." or however the quote goes

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Except they're not at the table, they're all in their own homes eating dinner alone never once realizing that their neighbor is currently hailing nazis.

There are plenty of reasons to dislike the ignorant, but calling them nazis does nothing.

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Hiding out from the nazis who have the state, the guns, etc. Trying to resist where we can. Like we've been doing for 400+ years despite overwhelming violence...

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madjoreply
feddit.nl

At least 6 million of you did, though.

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Truscapereply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

And? There's 40 million of us, and feel free to look at the distribution map for the 2024 election if you'd like to know which rural areas decided to vote for republicans.

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I know, just pointing out that you're not speaking for all Californians.

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The majority of people are just a reflection of the history and current reality of USA tho.

An evil system will never be fixed by blaming its victims.

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lemmy.zip

Ohhh, boy, this is going to go over well with the Jewish and black servicemen and women, won't it?

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Marshezezzreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

I’m sure that’s part of the intentions so they can fill the ranks with white incels

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Jews will be rightly upset but zios have a long history and current reality of nazi collaboration.

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The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

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lemmy.world

So, this naturally raises the question... if those things are taken off of the list of hate symbols, then what's left on the list of hate symbols?

I tried to find the answer by looking at the article, but all it has is this Excerpt from February 2023 U.S. Coast Guard policy document,

The following is a non-exhaustive list of symbols whose display, presentation, creation, or depiction would constitute a potential hate incident: a noose, a swastika, supremacist symbols, Confederate symbols or flags, and anti-Semitic symbols. The display of these types of symbols constitutes a potential hate incident because hatebased groups have co-opted or adopted them as symbols of supremacy, racial or religious intolerance, or other bias.

So, if that's non-exhaustive, there might be others, but surely, they'd list the worst symbols as examples. So, basically, there's nothing left that is identified as a hate symbol.

I personally find it interesting that they didn't do this in stages to hide their intent. Like, first remove the Confederate flag, and later remove the Nazi swastika. They did them both together at the same time, which I think shows that they do actually understand that the Confederate flag has the same basic meaning as the Nazi swastika today.

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They will be adding trans and pride flags in their place, maybe a Palestinian flag for good measure.

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feddit.dk

This was necessary to do ... because of what?

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feddit.dk

Was the classification as a hate symbol ever a problem for them?

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USA was founded by literal enslavers and remains so extremely racist that the military openly recruits nazis.

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Sounds like it's time for the targets of these symbols to quit the armed forces.

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"Admiral Kevin E. Lunday assumed the duties of Acting Commandant on January 21, 2025." Day after inauguration. And he is "acting" commandant so he didn't have to go through Congressional approval.

These racist fucks from Trump down are trying to be slick, but it's obvious what their values are.

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The quintessential hate symbols are not hate symbols? Weird... In other news, a yellow circle with two dots and and an arching line with upturned ends is no longer a smiley face.

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As usual the orange disease is slowly infiltrating our service sector employees

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They played Fallout and want to larp as the Enclave. I just wish the real techno-fascists won't be as competent as the Enclave.

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lemmy.zip

I mean, let's be honest here: This was going to happen regardless of whether we elected a rapist nazi to POTUS.

If you start caring about nazi hate symbols then you need to get rid of a LOT of the active military... and apparently democrats in Maine.

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scintillareply
crust.piefed.social

No. Literal nazi shit is way past where the line used to be. People were routinely kicked out for that kind of shit coming out because a diverse military is objectively better at many things and if you can't deal with that you are the problem in the eyes of the brass.

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lemmy.zip

SS lightning bolts and skulls are ridiculously prevalent in the US (actually most "Western") military.

At best? It is the allegorical nazi bar. The US Military (also, again, most "Western" militaries too) had no problem allowing nazis to take root and that inherently drives out everyone else until they are all jacking it to a facebook post about mein kampf.

The sad reality?All that "A diverse military is a strong military" is just about how much they are dependent on people of color whether it is a poor kid from the inner city trying to get a new start or someone putting in a tour for citizenship. And as that melanin dries up because people are realizing "maybe it isn't worth killing people who look like me to get a better life... Also all the sexual assault", that just leaves the "my daddy's daddy's daddy was a marine and I am too" crackers.

At which point... you kinda have to stop looking the other way on the "nazi corner" and just embrace it because nobody else is coming in.

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Fair points. Honestly it might just be what I did that I never actually ran into that type of iconography being a non combat roll that was far more about doing your job well than killing people. I do also know that they have kicked out a few people I was going through training with for that kind of iconography and hate speech.

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