Trump, 79, Claims It’s ‘Illegal’ for Late-Night Host to Mock Him
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When Bush Jr was president I was absolutely confounded by how people could support him. Then I got older and could see how people don't know how to do basic research.
With Trump, you just watch a speech or see his social media posts. It should be immediately apparent to anyone that he's a spineless, lying, idiot.
Trying to comprehend how such a loser remains in power hurts my brain.
Propaganda is MUCH more effective than most people think.
In popular media, it's usually only the stupid and the weak willed, but in reality, pretty much ANYONE can be fooled to a lesser or greater degree by propaganda if it's persistent and/or effective enough.
The fascist Republican party is literally a religious cult, complete with being just as difficult to escape without strong social support and deprogramming as for example Jehovah's Witnesses or Scientology.
I think about this a lot.
Trump's way of convincing voters he was a good businessman is literally just repeating, "I'm the best at business." Fox reports it, Facebook bots astroturf it, and influencers amplify it. And after a daily diet of news TV, Facebook and Tiktok feeding those reinforcements, people walk into conversations and eventually the voting booth, check their vibes, and find that opinion pre-formed.
Never mind that he bankrupted a casino, or inherited the money that made him rich, or has done a thousand obvious infomercial-level grifts that anyone can look up. And repeat this with a hundred other lies that create a shared "truth" without any self-reflection or research.
Propaganda is repetition. That's all it needs.
The Apprentice has a lot to answer for in this regard.
Reality TV is cancer.
Effective propaganda is multi-path repetition. That's why pigface is always using the "everybody says" line. Pervasive lies.
Yeah I think the people who drank the Koolaid were WELL indoctrinated into this stupidity before Trump came along, they don't question Trump because they never questioned anything that came before when it was maybe reasonable (not really).
You gotta have faith /$
I should make a $faith crypto coin....
Oh. It exists. It's at $0.00
Another example, see: ads
There's a reason the advertising industry is maaaaaassive. And no, you aren't "immune to ads" or willingly make yourself "less likely to buy the product". You think you are, but you're not.
You're not immune to propaganda
Adblock on every screen nearby. No broadcast / cable TV. Aggressively filtering things that add ads.
People model this as an insane overreaction. The world outside is a madhouse.
Never discount... people, too.
How many out there think: "He's just like me, but gets to say what he wants to!"
People fall for propaganda because they want to - they're not stupid, they're playing along because they like it.
A lot of them, sure, but far from everyone.
Just because a lot of them are assholes looking for justification for their bigotry doesn't mean that every one is that.
My (now atheist and progressive) partner grew up in the Jehovah's Witnesses and Republicanism. A couple decades after she managed to break free, she's STILL shunned by most of her family and has a strained relationship with the rest.
To pretend that it's just assholes being assholes together for no other reason than their own free will might be comforting to you, but it ignores key causes and thus makes it harder to combat the cult.
People fall for lies that they want to believe, not because they're simply assholes, but because the truth is hard and painful.
That's why social support and deprogramming is necessary, because you need to ease people into a very difficult reality.
They'd rather just play along because it's easier, safer, and more comfortable. They like it.
Terry Goodkind is a terrible author and even worse human being, but his "First Rule" was pretty accurate. To wit: "people will believe anything if they want it to be true, or if they're afraid of it being true."
There's a reason a lot of propaganda is either saying how great things are under a group (even when they clearly aren't), or fear-mongering about their opponents.
Try comparing Trump with a scam email and you'll get why people fall for his antics.
A scam email uses bad grammar and misspellings to deter less gullible people so the scammers can focus on the gullible people instead of wasting resources on people who at best won't interact, or at worst will try to limit gullible people who are getting sucked in.
Trump does the same thing.
A scam email uses hyperbole, this to try and deny you time to think and just proceed without thinking.
Trump does the same thing.
A scam email will constantly lie.
Trump does the same thing.
A scam email will often focus on your ego, complimenting you or your circumstances.
Trump does the same thing, but less focused on a specific person.
And so on.
TL;DR:
Trump is a scam email.
A very apt analogy and reminds me of the early days of the 'net. Among my peers, I was one of the first on the 'net, but I had been on BBSes quite a bit and had some minimal use of Qlink prior. And so you saw things that became memes in their own right in the early days, like MAKE.MONEY.FAST, and you wondered who fell for that stuff.
Then came Eternal September. And as the rest of the world started to get on the 'net, I'd have associates, friends, family fall for all kinds of stuff - forwarding me emails involving wildly stupid urban legends, or the "if you forward this, Bill Gates will give you $$$" stuff, etc.
It felt like I was always telling the same sort of person that you could easily think this through. It would bounce right off the skulls of some and they might drop the current thing, but fall for the next...usually the consequences were just wasting everyone else in their contact list's time and clogging up email inboxes just a bit more.
These days, I have a feeling virtually all these people that I'd try to gently coach on some rather basic critical thinking all voted 3x for Taco.
Not just once, twice. I try not to think about it because it's enraging.
Just remember - voters looked at the 2 candidates and said 'yup. I like the orange one'. This is not a good look, America.
Their pastors and bishops tell them who to vote for based on a single issue. It's really that simple.
Looks like someone is getting a tariff.
Pft. Yeah, because Trump is known for caring so, so much about what's legal. /s
His legal understanding is "and they just let you do it, because you're famous"... And for the most part he's been correct.
Can't really argue against that. Don't want to either.
He does care about the law, just in the conservative way.
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
I don't disagree with you, but I see no reason to amend my statement.
Classic case of both of you being right so yeah 🤷🏻
Why would you think anyone felt you should amend your statement
The only thing he knows is projection
He knows this particular string of hurtful words because he's heard it before.
Anything he doesn’t like is illegal
Basic dictator.
Basic bitch is what he is
Traditionally, in America, Comedians are the loudest, and most protected 1st Amendment Free Speech voices. So the orange painted rapist can just fuck off!
Someone should explain him the very basics of US law, like freedom of speech. Some other laws, too, maybe.
Republicans: We have freedom of speech. We can be full Nazis in public now, what's the problem?
It would be a waste of a perfectly coherent explanation. The inability to understand is all on their side.
Why? Do you think he's unaware?
I'm not sure, taking his mental state into account.
Oh no, the would-be dictator got his little fee-fees hurt!
He's a fucking idiot is why he thinks that
Alternatively, these feelings about this post are falling prey to fascist tactics. Freedom of Speech is a concept of the past and they will keep "joking" about it as they clamp down more and more till criticism is silenced out. The whole time, these feelings will have been unwillingly supporting it by dismissing the carefully orchestrated circus show of smoke, rights violations and mirrors as merely being the mirrors, circus and smoke.
In this case, i suspect he knows exactly what he is doing: becoming a dictator
Edit: removed apparently offensive joke. I apologize
Your strikethrough is a homophobic microaggression
I disagree but I'll remove it anyway.
I said it because they sound kind of similar. Man and woman can be dicktasters.
They're also doing an amazing job of very accurately depicting all his minions.
They are?! Oh damn, I gotta start watching that show again lol
Snowflake. No one cares about your feelings, orange psycho.
Unfortunately, you're very wrong about that. Nobody SHOULD care, though.
I keep forgetting Trump is supposedly only 79. He does appear even older.
He is best at aging.
I love Seth and I'll be sad when he gets taken to a concentration camp.
Why do the evil/vile ones live longer?
On the backs of those who are selfless, they avoid strain. On the welfare of those who are selfless, they avoid loss.
gOd hAs A pLaN
With the plans god has been making, he sucks.
More Russian style politics from chairman mayo
Something something 1st Amendment..
What a fucking snowflake crybaby
Trump says [insert completely wrong bullshit here]. Again.
Is it a requirement to list people's ages when referring to them?
Trump's age in the title. Seth's age in the article.
Actually, they are referring to his IQ.
It's his IQ score when padded by 50 points.
It gets a little boost like his height.
Is anyone going to answer @[email protected] (4 mo.)?
I (53) certainly won't.
I (42) also decline.
No one asked me [48], but wanted to chime in anyways
Did he throw himself on his back and kick his widdle feet while screaming it?
For someone that has committed as many crimes as he has, and continues to do, he sure does complain a lot about other people doing 'illegal' stuff. Especially when it's stuff that's isn't even illegal. What a monumental fuckwit.
That's Imax levels of projection there, Donald.
The US is a shit hole country.
Enjoy spiralling the drain together.
I agree and I live here.
Making moves to leave, permanently, though. This place sucked before Trump, and now it's just absolute gutter trash.
Honest question where will you go that has educated voters who cannot be swayed by propaganda & misinformation?
It's more about maybe living out the next 10-20 years of my life before wherever I go becomes completely overtaken by fascism. On the whole, I think everywhere will succumb to it eventually.
Since when?
He'd know all about illegal activity
Once a piss baby always a piss baby
Racist old convicted rapist lashes out at consequences of his shitty actions.
Fixed the headline.
You Mock Me - Saturday Night Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B81U7Vunhuc
7:18
Meyers is gonna loooove this
The exact reason he says bullshit like this is so the media will latch into it. And it works, every fucking time. Nobody in history has gotten more free press than Trump.
Has he raped kids?
“Well, he’s a product of his time.”