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Live updates: Trump administration must fund SNAP payments during the shutdown, judges rule

Trump administration must fund SNAP payments during the shutdown, judges rule

Two federal judges ruled nearly simultaneously on Friday that President Donald Trump’s administration must continue to fund SNAP, the nation’s biggest food aid program, using contingency funds during the government shutdown.

It wasn’t immediately clear how quickly the debit cards that beneficiaries use to buy groceries could be reloaded after the ruling. That process often takes one to two weeks.

Live updates: Trump administration must fund SNAP payments during the shutdown, judges rulehttps://apnews.com/live/donald-trump-news-updates-10-31-2025Open linkView original on midwest.social
lemmy.world

So they'll just deny the court order and delay action by appealing, then what?

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redlemacereply
lemmy.world

What he always does ...... keep ignoring court orders untill rulled in his favour.

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Mirshereply
lemmy.world

Pretty much this. It'll get appealed all the way to the SC, where Thomas will write a decision saying "actually all funding is at the President's sole discretion" and that'll be it.

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I think even that is being generous. With how eager this court has been to genuflect to him, I'd expect the ruling to be something more akin to "On clear reading, all government power and authority is derived from the Executive exclusively, including that which is graciously and magnanimously extended to all other branches of government."

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lemmy.world

Good. Appealing this will force him to take ownership of starving people. He will still lie, but maybe a few more people will see the light.

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Serinusreply
lemmy.world

You can't just lose hope, especially when things are getting worse and worse by the week.

It does take a long time for anything that the federal government does to actually affect your life or someone you know in a noticeable way. Lots of things might get slightly better or worse, but won't be directly attributable to government, like policies that affect the economy. Other things might get MUCH better or worse, but only for a few people at a time.

Especially if you're dumb, these things can be hard to notice. Some people don't believe us because we've been saying the train is coming for a year now and they haven't seen it. But when they do get hit by it, or they see someone close enough, well... it can start to get through to them.

And we need those few percentage points. It's important to get people to vote against this shit, assuming we still get to vote at all. Be aware that there's also levels of cheating in voting. If they do things that suppress the vote by 5%, with the extreme shit they're doing, we could gain more than 10 points.

Voting still matters. Even if they cheat.

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lemmy.zip

It does take a long time for anything that the federal government does to actually affect your life or someone you know in a noticeable way.

Armed thugs in your city black-bagging people can happen quite suddenly.

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Armed thugs in your city black-bagging people can happen quite suddenly.

I bet half the Trump voters won't believe it until they see it. Luckily we don't need all of them.

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The bulk of them won't but there's a constant little trickle of people realizing it each day

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lemmy.world

There's a lot of people who are living in a bubble of lies. Sometimes the truth breaks through. That's a chance to shatter the right wing media illusion.

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lemmy.zip

Addressing the problem of the right-wing media outlets being allowed to brainwash people with impunity would be more effective.

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lemmy.ml

If your holding out hope for the MAGA's to one-day see the light and change their ways, then I urge you to stop. Narcissists and their ilk don't operate like that.

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lemmy.world

A lot are just dupes who got sucked in by right wing media. The truth can break through if it's big enough.

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The truth can break through if it’s big enough.

Not in a time frame that'll do us any good. Nazi soldiers were dupes too, and we didn't defeat Nazism by laying some sweet reason on them. To the extent that that happened at all, it was part of the cleanup job after they'd lost by other means.

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BanMereply
lemmy.world

In this case the headline actually works to our advantage. It's clear that Trump is the one fucking with food benefits. Tomorrow, between that and the new healthcare exchange rates being out, he's going to be more unpopular than ever - even some of his base are going to have pitchforks.

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ski11erboireply
lemmy.world

Exactly this. His starving base will see exactly how a rouge rogue president isn't good for the country now that it affects them.

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jordanlundreply
lemmy.world

Vote in 2026, flip the House, get a 67 Seat Democratic majority in the Senate, impeach him a 3rd time and actually remove him this time, followed by his mandated jail time on his felony convictions.

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tornavishreply
lemmy.cafe

You do know that none of that is going to happen, right?

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jordanlundreply
lemmy.world

Well the question was "what do you think we should do about it", that's what I think we should do. 😉

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tornavishreply
lemmy.cafe

OK, fine. What do you think is likely to happen? And, when that likely thing happens… What do you think we should do about it then?

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jordanlundreply
lemmy.world

Most likely event is Trump dies from a stroke before anything meaningful can happen. Then we vote out J.D. Vance in 2028.

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vance is currently allegedly wooing ERIKA kirk to be his potential first lady, since she unlike usha who is aethist, she is a good "trad wife"

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Trump's mother died at 88, and his father died at 93. I don't think Trump (who's 79) is in as poor of health as people have been speculating. I'd be genuinely surprised if he had a major stroke anytime soon.

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OK, if you’re just going to tell me to fuck off just say fuck off

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Dream on. That's using the badly, maybe irretrievably, broken system to fix itself.

Any effective solution will have to be outside the system.

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piefed.social

Don't forget letters to the editor of your local paper.

You know who actually reads those?

Elderly people who ACTUALLY READ AND VOTE

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lemmy.today

i dont think many senate seats are up for grabs, its the house seats. until '28 there will be more senate seats in trouble. hence why some of the DNC are so confidant in supporting the Israel genocide of gaza, thier seats are safe.

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It is a good question. Public servants who refuse to follow it will be risking personal liability. That is a big deal for mid-level government workers when people will die as a result of their action or inaction.

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lemmy.zip

Who’s going to fucking make him?

We are no longer a nation of consequences and without those, the criminals ain’t stopping.

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bremreply
sh.itjust.works

LEGAL CONSEQUENCES aren't the same as a pissed off hungry mob.

Even the big 'ol honkers with the red hats will roll up against lack of mac.

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I’ve seen neither and they are literally bulldozing the fucking White House.

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lemmy.world

That's funny. They will all sit around the table and laugh at "must fund". After the laugh they'll ignore it like they always do and find some other law to break.

Meanwhile everyone else will shake their fist fervently and come up with a neat slogan for a sign.

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lemmy.world

This might just convince more people that only Trump can save them, and the legislative branch only serves as an obstacle.

Feeding the poor in a very public way is a good way for authoritarians to build good will at very low cost.

Edit: I’m still all for continuing and expanding SNAP to be clear. No one should be hungry.

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lemmy.world

It should show that they had the funds all along and have to be forced to use them instead of using the threat of starvation as a cynical political lever. The truth is that MAGA Reps dont want the SNAP program funded, no matter what. They dont give a fuck about poor and hungry children, especially if they can try to pin the blame on Dems. They think poverty is a moral failing and the poor are just a tool to be used.

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drhodlreply
lemmy.world

Poor people have kids that they can farm with impunity......

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It's their main recruitment tactic for military service, since the newer generation aren't falling for the flag-waving propaganda that previous gens were more susceptible to.

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They dont give a fuck about poor and hungry children

Oh, they do. They want them dead. And some of them want to molest them first.

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Feeding the poor in a very public way is a good way for authoritarians to build good will at very low cost.

Yeah but that would take intelligence. Plus he wouldn’t want to risk accidentally helping anyone besides himself.

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Yup. He's gonna continue saying the democrats is keeping the government shut, while he is feeding them. Pathetic people fall for this idiotic bullshit. Then again; republicans are traitors.

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sh.itjust.works

They should require they updates all the notices on the govt websites saying:

"The Trump Administration is now forced to fund SNAP despite their best efforts to blame the Democrats"

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lemmy.zip

Ok, and WHEN this admin doesn't do it, what then?

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paper_moonreply
lemmy.world

And american farmers, didn't I just see they're working on a bail out? Ya know, the people who mostly voted for this shit show in the first place.

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The claim will be that it's the Dems fault, so they'll be derided by the gov't media as society collapses; and much the way an abusive partner blames their victim, it'll be people being shot in the streets in droves, drones with hellfire missiles being ordered to fire on urban centers, and the administration will just have whatever blonde talking head they choose come out and say "this could have all been avoided but the Dems were allowed to exist for too long and this is what happened. See what they made us do?"

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lemmy.world

40 million starving Americans might create 1789 France. The asswipe, Just Dumb, survived on government welfare programs to put food on his plate. Hypocritical POS.

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I'm lowkey worried he's shortsighted enough to want food riots, because he thinks he can declare martial law and never leave power that way.

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doing everything possible to avoid the epstein files of his sordid details. distract the COMPLICIT press from the BBB and the files.

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Nothing to see here. They'll cry to their pet Supreme Court justices and this will be overruled.

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Traditionally, corrupt governments rely on bread and games to placate the hoi polloi.

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Yikes. Hopefully it happens and the narrative will be that they could have made sure there was no lapse the whole time but were forced to help people.

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tbh did have starving the American population on my bingo card this year. and the worst thing is the people who celebrate it because of some people not spending the money wisely (i agree that maybe buying junk food is a priority when on food stamps) but that according to them is the whole entire country, and lets be honest, its mostly black people they are targeting the most with their "grievances". That's the funny thing about these racist fucks, they think someone like me was born yesterday and can't see through their veiled racism.

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What? He won't be able to starve some kids? That takes all the fun out of it for him.

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lemmy.zip

How? This is a terrible court ruling. The president does not control the funds. That's a constitutionally enumerated power of congress and congress alone. If they have not approved funds there's no money to pay it.

While I want people to have access for food I want to know what basis this court is using to strip congress of it's congressional powers and to bestow that to the executive branch.

Gotta love the downvotes and lack of discussion. The next comment provided info not by the news article that cleared it all up. I even agreeded. Guess discourse is dead

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NABDadreply
lemmy.world

The funds in question are already available for emergency use. The administration argued that the government shutdown didn't count as an emergency. It sounds like the judge considered children, elderly, and disabled people going without food an emergency.

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Thanks for providing more coverage and context than the actual news article.

Defining an emergency is definitely within the bounds of the court and sounds much more reasonable.

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Wow, a real human being with empathy. It's refreshing.

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