Health Secretary Kennedy says there's 'not sufficient' proof to show Tylenol causes autism
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/10/29/health-chief-insufficient-data-tylenol-causes-autism/86972118007/Open linkView original on mander.xyz376
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Imagine being, like, 75 and suddenly having to learn philosophy of science
I don't see how Johnson and Johnson haven't sued the absolute shit out of him at this point.
That’s probably why he’s saying it, lol. I doubt J&J wants a stupid, expensive lawsuit with the government over this, it wouldn’t surprise me if they’ve been in private talks to get them to walk it back.
A drawn out lawsuit world probably result in generations of magas not using Tylenol out of spite.
Was what he actually said, the headline is click bait.
that not clickbait, it's called paraphrasing
can't put the entire paraghaph as a headline
Its deliberately obfuscating a critical part of the quote in order to get more attention.
Its clickbait.
what part?
how would you have worded the headline to avoid what you call clickbait?
Evidence linking Tylenol and autism not definitive "but very suggestive", says health secretary Kennedy.
"Suggestive evidence is information that hints at a particular conclusion but is not conclusive on its own."
So in short, is there no conclusive evidence linking it to autism?
Kennedy hears that there is no conclusive evidence linking tylenol to autism yet assumes the causal relationship exists. (It just hasn't been proven yet.)
Any rational person hearing that there is no conclusive evidence linking tylenol to autism assumes the causal relationship does not exist. (But acknowledges that the causal relationship has not been disproven.)
A better summary would be "Kennedy acknowledges his claims about Tylenol are not supported by evidence."
Why is this "critical part"? Kennedy being a lunatic with ZERO CREDIBILITY...
why would you base ANY medical decision on a guy who actually said "you shouldn't base any medical decision on my advice"?
I wouldn't lmao
I just think the headline shouldn't sanewash him
do you think that's sane washing? and here I am arguing thinking you are defending this lunatic
The key part is he isn’t actually admitting that he was wrong.
A couple is having an argument about what food is best and the BF insists that tacos are the best food in the world and everyone likes tacos to come to this conclusion he asked a few people at the taco restaurant who all agreed with him. Later his GF mentions that in fact not everyone loves tacos and he doesn’t have enough evidence that tacos are the greatest food in the world. So the BF asks a few of his coworkers what their favorite food is and finds that not all of them say tacos so he comes home and says “okay maybe not everyone agrees with me but tacos are still the best and I just need to ask more people to prove that most people still think tacos are the best”
The headline from that shouldn’t be BF admits tacos aren’t the best, it should be that BF admits he needs more data to claim tacos are the best but still strongly believes they are.
You're both right.
You can both be correct
TWO WILL ENTER ONE WILL LEAVE
I think a more accurate paraphrasing would be that he said studies suggest Tylenol during pregnancy causes autism.
What "studies"? you are now literally making things up and pretending this is less clickbait?
Even the FDA, under these absolute morons, cannot come up with anything to throw at Acetaminophen
From the OP article, emphasis mine.
Even the quote you shared says "prior clinical and laboratory studies".
yes but they have provided no such "studies" to "suggest" this link... it is literally the opinion, without ANY SUBSTANCE, of a guy who chooses to swim in an open sewer
But they're reporting on what he said, and what he said is that studies suggest a causal link. It doesn't matter whether or not he's lying about it. The headline as written suggests he's changing his tune on the alleged Tylenol/autism connection, but he isn't.
He is changing his tune now that lawsuits started flying
They outright came out saying Tylenol during pregnancy causes autism a few weeks back... now they acknowledge they are full of shit but added a "suggest" to save some face.
Again, the gist of this news is that he is backtracking. To expect they will quote everything he said in the headline is nonsense (specially when it literally is nonsense), otherwise you'd expect the headline to contain the entire article
One Texas AG lawsuit, and they panic and rescind because they know their bullshit won't hold up on court. Texas for the win????? 🤦♂️
～(つˆ0ˆ)つ｡☆ The stars at night are big and bright clap clap clap clap
As a native Texan i want to make clear that there is never a situation where someone yells out "the stars at night are big and bright" and everyone claps.
That being said if it were to happen, absolutely everyone would clap.
No man, I saw it on a documentary about the Alamo.
The great American explorer Peewee Herman.
I wonder how this will stack up in Texas's lawsuit. Not that American law matters anymore....
Too late, he did the damage he wanted to do and the cult isn't going to stop blaming Tylenol.
It's causing a headache
Hey! They could take some... oh, no...
It's cool. I'll just give them paracetamol. They won't know
Hell, give em hydroxychloroquine--they know that stuff works lol
It's a shakedown warning to pharma companies: "we will upset your revenue stream unless you bribe us not to"
That's the only reason I can see a U-turn happening here
It can only good happen!
But you said you knew it did......How could you slander/libel this brave american company.
What, they care for proof now?
Edit: nope, clickbait. Block that shit.
I generally just don't read any news anymore that's owned by rich people, authoritarian governments, or bent the knee to either.
....then why did you say it did?
Fucking reckless and dangerous.
Brain worm and swimming in feces, remember?
When it comes to taste, that worm really had bad luck ending up in this guy.
He has temporarily wrestled control of his brain back from the worm.
Tylenol told him they'd sue his pants off is likely what happened here. It's only a US brand of a more generic aspirin after all. So which is it, the generic drug, or the brand name that causes autism? Surely can't be both in this case.
Tylenol is paracetamol, aka acetaminophen, not aspirin.
Which is generally even safer than aspirin and ibuprofen.
Except for liver toxicity. It is actually the most common drug overdose.
Which is unsurprising. Too many people are unaware how easily you can OD on the stuff because they include it in medicines for other symptoms. Have a cold? Take a sinus medicine (Sudafed + Tylenol), and an expectorant (Mucinex + Tylenol), oh and maybe some Tylenol too for the headache.
If it wasn't already grandfathered in since before the FDA existed, it probably never would have been approved for sale.
Still doesn't cause autism though.
All of them have a negative side effects of the prescription is not respected. It seems the toxic dose per kilogram for aspirin is similar to the one for paracetamol, and the one for ibuprofen is about twice more.
Tylenol is not a name brand of Aspirin, it’s a name brand of acetaminophen (paracetamol outside the US). They’re not even the same class of drug. Aspirin is a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug and acetaminophen is an analgesic. They each work differently and have separate mechanisms of action. You can even find them sold together (along with caffeine) in a single drug for migraines and severe headaches.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracetamol
acetaminophen (paracetamol)
Sometimes, I'll start a sentence and I don't even know where it's going.
FTFY
That's because it doesn't. Weird how that works, I know. Just because you have a thought doesn't make it real, hope that clears things up for you.
Here is some evidence that the worm is now moving again.
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KACO?
Sounds like what he's speaking
It doesnt matter really, evidence is really irrelevant to the entire thing at this point. The people tuning in do not understand what autism is to begin with, let alone what evidence would even mean in this context.
I won't be surprised when studies show in a few years a large drop in Tylenol use during pregnancy (probably overall use too), and the diagnosis rate of autism continues the overall increasing trend (as we become better at diagnosing it).
Holy shit! It’s the consequences of his ineptitude all caught up with him! Who woulda thunk!?