Window Decorations Rule
Context: So apparently Gnome’s push for client side window decorations is making it so that some apps (Including Steam) don’t show the Cosmic window decorations
Edit I forgor steam just uses its own window decorations, it was an issue with a lotta apps so I assume steam was one too
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I think the hate for Gnome is what keeps everyone else in check. It's like the sacrificial lamb or black sheep or whatever, it's the example preventing you not to go down that very same route.
Andthat'sprobablythemostflatteringthingI'lleversayaboutGnome.It would help if every distro out there didn't make the cesspool their default DE.
When Gnome doesn't work, for close to everybody it means that Linux doesn't work.
Man the more I hear about issues with Gnome the more happy I am with choosing KDE. I am interested in trying out other DEs, but KDE just seems to "just work" out of the box with plenty of options for customization. For the record I did use Gnome for a good few years with a slew of plugins that were needed for basic functions.
Let me guess: then you had enough when the plugins kept breaking / Gnome kept crashing completely and taking all your current apps with it? And you were told to "just don't use Extensions"?
If Gnome was a company (thank god they aren't) the people who decided for gnome-shell to be both the compositor and window manager in a single process structure with extensions directly injecting code into this monolithic Achilles' heel would've been fired by now.
That's really the thing… any other desktop environment isn't just working better, but also better at failing. Neither a program nor extension / applet will take your whole compositor down unless you install KWin scripts in KDE or sth. Meanwhile on Gnome your whole damn GUI can crash and restart if there's an issue with something as simple as drag'n'drop. On KDE this would only take down plasmashell (which can restart independently), not everything.
Thank you for coming to my TED rant.
It's been years, so I can't say for certain, but I don't think I ran into that issue. Gnome was my first Linux DE, so I kinda figured that's how things were in Linux. I decided to give KDE a spin on Fedora since I was installing a completely new distro and it wouldn't hurt to try something else new there as well. There was no straw the broke the camel's back, just trying new things and realizing, "oh shit this is waaaaay better".
I've been using exclusively Fedora KDE and Fedora Gnome for a while now. I like both and so I use both, but have only had a bit of an issue with KDE resetting my configurations with updates. Right now I have just a taskbar in KDE and nothing else on the bar after it reset again after updating. It has happened a few times over the years and takes a lot of effort to set it all up again, details for things like weather and specific style choices. I realize my issues aren't everyone's, but just thought I would chime in.
Might just be a Fedora thing, it doesn't happen on Kubuntu.
Every time I try another DE, I always end up using KDE again by the end of the week.
KDE is great, but man i can't wait for Nvidia to perform better with it
I'm OOTL, what happened?
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As a COSMIC fan it hurts me
doesn’t steam just use it’s own window decorations on all platforms tho?
ohh, it was an issue with a lotta apps so I assume steam was one too
i guess it depends? to my knowledge cosmic doesn’t use it’s window decorations on anything that isn’t a cosmic app, so most apps will use the GTK/Qt ones instead.
on KDE however, most non-GTK apps (and some GTK apps like Libreoffice or Inkscape) will use the KDE decorations. except flutter apps.
it’s a confusing mess.
I dont like that Gnome pushes this, but its also no theyre fault COSMIC chose to implement it the way they have. They could choose to give users an option to force server side decorations.
AFAIK it doesn’t show the window decorations no matter what WM you are using because Steam is a web app like Teams.
ohh, it was an issue with a lotta apps so I assume steam was one too
I dont think the problem is with steam at all? I thought the problem was cosmic using fallback csd put in for gnome instead of the developer intended ssd.
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