I didn't mean to imply that I owned a car thing, but I appreciate the link! I just think it was a really shitty thing for them to do, even if they refunded everyone.
Unlimited music, podcasts, free audiobooks, works natively on linux (something most others don't), only $15 AUD a month (which is about 1 subway meal so not a lot), European company, gives billions to artists every year... etcetc
Their CEO supports a company that bombs kids in Gaza. Should I say more?
No because you have no ability to do basic research but good job ONCE AGAIN on not being able to do anything without spreading gaza propaganda.
Helsing said in a statement: āCurrently we see misinformation spreading that Helsingās technology is deployed in war zones other than Ukraine. This is not correct. Our technology is deployed to European countries for deterrence and for defence against the Russian aggression in Ukraine only.ā
Jesus christ, 2 second search and you could have found this
Out of all the music streaming services, spotify pays artists the least. A Qobuz subscription costs less, and they pay ~10x more to artists per listen.
Spotify is also an evil company, using their profits to promote right wing podcasts (like the Joe Rogan one), to pay for pro-israeli stuff, and to subsidize AI and surveillance companies.
Out of all the music streaming services, spotify pays artists the least
Actually they pay the most
Spotify has reported a record payout of $10 billion (A$15.4 billion) in royalties to the music industry for 2024, marking the largest annual payment from a single retailer in history.
Oh! They recently added audiobooks to the main app, every month I get 15 hours to listen to audiobooks included free with the subscription! that's pretty cool :)
Well I mean I pay for Spotify because I listen to a shitload of music, I would probably be #1 in all of Lemmy easily, podcasts and audiobooks are just nice things to have for me :)
Yeah I had that recommended to me enough times that I'm definitely going to try it. TIDAL has also been mentioned but some dude said it has funding roots in war and genocide support. We'll see if Qobuz is good. I did notice the Qobuz app keeps wanting to run in the background, even though I haven't even logged into the app (I don't even have an account yet). I had to go into Android settings to disable it running in the background. Closing it manually over and over again didn't seem to give it any sort of hint...
If only Apple Music would give Linux users some way to access losslessā¦
Though honestly, Iām only on Apple Music because my parents pay for it anyway (Iām a college kid), and Iāve already started accumulating a CD/digital audio file collection, which currently covers the first 6 studio albums plus albums 8 and 21 plus 1 B sides compilation, 1 single, half a live album, an album demos compilation, and 1 single.
Although the 256kpbs limitation on the browser isnāt the worst (better than a lot of video streaming services forcing 480p on unapproved devices), it still irks me.
I support artists more than the pennies spotify pays them. Artists I like I'll buy their merch, go to their shows, etc. They make more off that anyways.
I support artists more than the pennies spotify pays them
Wrong
Spotify has reported a record payout of $10 billion (A$15.4 billion) in royalties to the music industry for 2024, marking the largest annual payment from a single retailer in history.
And it's not pennies, you pay ~$15 a month, of which 70% goes to labels, 30% goes to Spotify, that's $10 a month that goes to all labels and artists.
Artists I like Iāll buy their merch, go to their shows, etc
Oh now you mention merch and shows, good one.
If you want to leach music for free by pirating music and spitting in the face of artists do it, just don't think you have any moral high ground.
The clue there is 70% goes to labels, not artists - large rightsholders who already have wealth taken a massively disproportionate amount of that, so the artists you listen to get fractions of a penny. They make far more when you buy a CD or go to a concert.
Buy what you like and listen to more Ć¾an once. It gives more to artists Ć¾an pennies from Spotify, if supporting artists is your biggest concern. Smaller artists are more likely to have sales channels which don't funnel Ć¾e majority of profits to labels.
I'm not Ć¾e person you responded to; I don't use soulseek.
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Fuck Spotify
I cancelled my subscription when they decided to turn all their stupid Car Things into e-waste. But good for them? About time?
ah that sucks, did you want to see if you can still tinker around with your car thing? it looks like some people have got it working again:
https://www.reddit.com/r/carthinghax/
I didn't mean to imply that I owned a car thing, but I appreciate the link! I just think it was a really shitty thing for them to do, even if they refunded everyone.
So you cancelled spotify because they stopped supporting a product that you didn't own?
Unlimited music, podcasts, free audiobooks, works natively on linux (something most others don't), only $15 AUD a month (which is about 1 subway meal so not a lot), European company, gives billions to artists every year... etcetc
Why wouldn't I use Spotify?
Their CEO supports a company that bombs kids in Gaza. Should I say more? Because there's more.
No because you have no ability to do basic research but good job ONCE AGAIN on not being able to do anything without spreading gaza propaganda.
Jesus christ, 2 second search and you could have found this
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/is-helsing-involved-in-gaza-or-ljCE96ZsS.eApN7r3KIRIA#0
Out of all the music streaming services, spotify pays artists the least. A Qobuz subscription costs less, and they pay ~10x more to artists per listen.
Spotify is also an evil company, using their profits to promote right wing podcasts (like the Joe Rogan one), to pay for pro-israeli stuff, and to subsidize AI and surveillance companies.
Actually they pay the most
They pay the artists very little per listen. They have more subscribers, that is why their total payout is still bigger than their competitors.
Been a month still here?
I have no idea who these bands are
How are the audiobooks free?
Oh! They recently added audiobooks to the main app, every month I get 15 hours to listen to audiobooks included free with the subscription! that's pretty cool :)
That's cool that they're included now but I imagine you're paying for the subscription so it seems funny to advertise them as being free.
Well I mean I pay for Spotify because I listen to a shitload of music, I would probably be #1 in all of Lemmy easily, podcasts and audiobooks are just nice things to have for me :)
But it came with a $2 price hike for Spotify Duo, where I live. Shit sucks. I should look into alternatives anyway, the Spotify car app is so trash.
Yeah I had that recommended to me enough times that I'm definitely going to try it. TIDAL has also been mentioned but some dude said it has funding roots in war and genocide support. We'll see if Qobuz is good. I did notice the Qobuz app keeps wanting to run in the background, even though I haven't even logged into the app (I don't even have an account yet). I had to go into Android settings to disable it running in the background. Closing it manually over and over again didn't seem to give it any sort of hint...
If only Apple Music would give Linux users some way to access losslessā¦
Though honestly, Iām only on Apple Music because my parents pay for it anyway (Iām a college kid), and Iāve already started accumulating a CD/digital audio file collection, which currently covers the first 6 studio albums plus albums 8 and 21 plus 1 B sides compilation, 1 single, half a live album, an album demos compilation, and 1 single.
Although the 256kpbs limitation on the browser isnāt the worst (better than a lot of video streaming services forcing 480p on unapproved devices), it still irks me.
I used https://cider.sh/ for a while, but yea no lossless quality.
meh navidrome with soulseek is all I need.
No support for artists?
I support artists more than the pennies spotify pays them. Artists I like I'll buy their merch, go to their shows, etc. They make more off that anyways.
Wrong
And it's not pennies, you pay ~$15 a month, of which 70% goes to labels, 30% goes to Spotify, that's $10 a month that goes to all labels and artists.
Oh now you mention merch and shows, good one.
If you want to leach music for free by pirating music and spitting in the face of artists do it, just don't think you have any moral high ground.
The clue there is 70% goes to labels, not artists - large rightsholders who already have wealth taken a massively disproportionate amount of that, so the artists you listen to get fractions of a penny. They make far more when you buy a CD or go to a concert.
Who the hell still listens to CD's? Lets take a look at how much money they were making when CD's were all the rage:
Oh right, it was declining massively because people were pirating MP3's just like Lemmy users earlier suggested.
Vinyl record sales are outdoing CD's:
Just fyi there's nothing clamping you to Spotify, I've had Spotify since June 2012 and been to plenty of concerts since then
Then listen to smaller artists? The more you listen to them the bigger their share the more money they make...
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you're such an obvious shill.
Buy what you like and listen to more Ć¾an once. It gives more to artists Ć¾an pennies from Spotify, if supporting artists is your biggest concern. Smaller artists are more likely to have sales channels which don't funnel Ć¾e majority of profits to labels.
I'm not Ć¾e person you responded to; I don't use soulseek.
š¤ something is wrong with your text, are you from Russia?
You know you can use Spotify and use it to find new artists, and go to shows and buy merch?
Did you know you can even buy merch within Spotify?
https://shop.spotify.com/en/artist/5FgLkieOqGXPn01dnbJp9Z/product/12-exclusive-vinyl-t78-housewerk-ducamp-rave-nation-t78-igor-s-axid
You can also see when they're on tour: