Been brought up before but the indie market still chugging along.
Now if you want big expensive AAA "bring my RTX / i9 I spent too much money on to it's very knees" with that, that's impossible. Besides, poor optimization will put that stupid expensive rig to the test 😂
it sounds like you're sleeping on indie games. I haven't cared about AAA games in years bc of the things you mentioned, but there's thousands of amazing and super high quality indie games out there that are made as passion projects from devs who just want people to have fun. the barrier to entry for becoming a game dev has been steadily lowering since the 80's, almost anyone can make a game now so there's really no reason to rely on giant game corporations as your only source
Honestly, I got the Xbox and I mostly play indie games on Xbox game pass. And I have had such an amazing time with them. And if I want to play a triple A game I can probably find a used disc somewhere pretty cheap. Indie games are awesome. I loved Hoa, cried so much at the end.
I legitimately think they just mean publishers and board shareholders. Most (read most, there are also plenty of devs with retard level hot takes on twitter about their constituents, and their clear jealousy of a better product) devs hate the features they have to implement.
This isn't about somebody "trying to eat". Devs are being paid by the publishers either way (until they get fired of course). Monetisation and "games as a live service" are implemented to increase profit for shareholders. Gamepublishing is already the largest entertainment industry, so this is just about adding more profits to already extreme profits.
Pretty sure there are way more games now than they're ever has been. Look outside the major publishers. Any big company is going to be in it for the money. That's their main goal.
Yep. I know people love to idolize FDR, but the way he got the New Deal passed was with the argument that it was the "bare minimum we have to do to ensure that socialism doesn't take root in the US for at least another 70 years." Which is why the politicians started trying to revoke those promises the day after it passed.
Stalin was ruthless, not stupid. He would have looked at the existing barriers and realized that it would be a waste of resources to try to build a wall in the middle of a desert.
Wolfenstein The New Order: Nice! Killing knot-zees like it's 1992!!
Wolfenstein II The New Collosus: what is this woke anti American shit/why can't we play as the real "good" guys
Gee. Somewhere between the release of these two games public opinion changed. The first came out in 2014, btw. The second's ad campaign had "Make America Nazi Free Again" as a slogan, something that id thought we'd all agree. Nazis were in that safe group of "enemies we can slaughter without guilt" alongside aliens, zombies and robots.
I got banned from reddit for saying: Wolfenstein The New Order is one of if not the best game of all time, the only good nazi is a dead nazi. GET HYPED!
I mean, I'm happy they had an implosion, but it should have been because of the nazi sympathy, not because of their api.
Well one cost “the right people” more money than they were willing to give and one didn’t. It’s almost like money doesn’t matter until it matters to the gawd, it sounds crazy to say it, it’s so dystopian, shadow governments’ corporate overlords. Lives otoh… shudder
It can only piss off Nazi sympathizers tbh. I mean If you believed that America was going downhill and wanted to make it "great again" surely making it Nazi Free would be part of that goal right?
I would love old school arcades. I feel like, most people today just don't know what a wonderful place they used to be.
No stupid toys to win. No tickets. No tokens or any virtual currency.
Most games were a quarter with some of the larger ones being two quarters. You just hung out, played games, met new people, got to experience a wide range of games from shooters, side scroller fighters, sports, etc.
It was truly magical. Was one of the best things at the mall.
Go to a barcade? This concept still exists. It is just for adults now.
Most of them are free play with $20 entry. There are so many barcade near me - I don't even bother with the ones that charge quarters. It was a rip off back then, and it's still a rip off now
This entire "ANTI-WOKE" is just some bullshit that the most ignorant bigots hide behind thinking they can be as fucking awful as they want to be.
They've even brought back anti-gay with the anti-trans thing under the old "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" banner which is pure bullshit.
It really seemed for a good 10-15 years that that shit was conquered.
These morons hide their racism by scoffing at anything with a non-white person in it with the label "POC".
The funniest thing is, they think their fucking clever and they use 1950's housefrau shit like "DENGENERATE" and other outmoded bullshit words.
They make fun of the left for being triggered by their own shadows(which does happen) but these morons are scared of anything not white and not straight, it's really awful but kind of funny in a sick way.
It’s almost like a spectrum with anything outside what I’m comfortable with is where I draw the line, especially if I’m dabbling or experimenting with anything that makes me vaguely uncomfortable, because what I’d people get the wrong idea that I’m “that,” isn’t it? The slider moves, everyone!
Don't know about USA, but in Germany the inflationary use of "Nazi" by leftists weakened the term a lot. So if someone is called a Nazi, you don't have to assume anymore it's a bad person. I believe it will be impossible to turn that back.
Ah yes being sceptical of a random online photo is clearly the same as being skeptical. You need to work on your bots ai as it foesnt seem very good at responding to context
Right so you arent responding to this conversation. If you were you would have the context needed to understand and not make insert bot upset claims and hyperbolic strawmam claims
You can go down the reply chain and check. There's no image here in this comment chain. In the future, since you apparently cannot distinguish between multiple conversations, you should probably stick to replying to one person.
Yeah. It is. When someone does the Nazi salute in public, they are telling you who they are, and you should believe them.
The previous sentiment goes for anyone. When they clearly tell you, through actions not words, who they are, you would be wise to believe them. It is extremely rare that someone intentionally acts against their own personal interests at the time of their actions. They may unknowingly do so, such as by voting for Nazis, but rarely do they do so intentionally.
The party is full of (Neo)Nazis, even in high ranks; one of them may even officially be called Nazi. Their whole program and style is essentially NSDAP playbook.
The most nazi thing in the links you provided were the government banning certain slogans.
What is your definition of nazi as that will probably explain a few things.
You had use of a banned slogan. A nazi accusation, party memeber leaving due to claims of right wing infiltration.
None of that is evidence of them being nazi's. Sus for sure but pretty weak.
I just did another quick google search regarding the somewhat recent arrests from that attempted coup. Albeit they were former members of the party so i guess too extreme for the AFD. And well not very competent or numerous.
They are against immigrants, want to suppress freedom, want to separate kids with disabilities from other kids in schools, etc.
They not just tolerate but supports Nazis like Höcke, who btw. told an inteviewer once that once he's in power, the interviewer will regret asking those questions.
I mean sure, we can pretend that they are not as bad as the NSDAP was back then and do the same thing we did with the NSDAP: giving them power. But then we will just end up with the next Nazi government like last time. I would prefer not to.
I agree it used to mean actual, armband wearing, genocide creating, goose stepping evil people that started WWII.
Yes today there are still people who somehow support that shit with the books, flags, tats and armbands to prove it. There is a term for it. Neo Nazi. If you want Nazis to punch these are it, though it might not make them any less of one.
Now by that standard is Trump a Nazi? No. But some throw the term around to essentially mean group=bad. The left crazies do it with nazi, the right crazies do it with communism. Over time it loses meaning to the point where nobody takes it seriously. Boy who cried wolf. The way to stop that is to only use the term on the real people, not the kinda sorta if you squint your eyes it's similar in a way people. Not to say they they aren't assholes or don't deserve to be called out by other terms..
Anyway yes people hate the real deal Nazis, but probably not every group someone on twitter slaps that label on to. End rant.
Trump may not be a Nazi or a Neo-Nazi, as those are extremely specific subsets of Fascism. Trump is an authoritarian fascist. His TV series proved that well before his second or third presidential campaign.
I agree. But he's also not "actual Hitler" as many have said over the years. It's different levels of asshole and I wish people had more nuance is my point
Idk, he wanted to order the military to go in with weapons blazing at blm protesters. Defended those who marched and chanted in Charlottesville that “Jews! Will not! Replace us!”
He may not have the name hitler, but he seems to love that stuff. Oh yeah and covered up (has something to do with?) Kashoggi being quartered, alive when he himself couldn’t listen to the tapes of the sounds of agony. What exactly would earn him “Nazi” status, in your view?
Similer circumstance in russia. Where everyone bad and aganist russia is a nazi. Ukraine needing dezafication. Etc since from their perspective its only ever been Nazi's they had no red scare since they were the red scare
And what! Is wrong with Zafication?!?! I'll tell you something, if you've got a problem with Zafis, then you've got a problem with me! I suggest you think about that! /j
Also terms like "grammar Nazi" is helping to weaken the seriousness of the word.
In Denmark people sometimes use it to say that somebody is quite particular about something (similar to "grammar Nazi") like " yeah, he's kinda Nazi about people not wearing shoes in his apartment" I don't know if that's common in other countries too? But it's definitely weakening the gravity of the word 'nazi".
And I'm here wondering if Godwin's idea came because he saw something like this and wanted to stop it or if he saw an opportunity to silence criticism of Nazi-like strategies.
And I'm not sure if I should be happy or sad that we're in a post-Godwin world now. On the one hand, it was a dumb "rule" because there's certainly times where Nazi comparisons are apt. But on the other hand, we only got post-Godwin because Nazi ideas have regained enough popularity that some are openly embracing the label.
It's exactly the same here in the US. Anyone right of Bernie Sandars was called a Nazi for a few years there (happens less today, but still happens), so now when someone shouts nazi, everyone just rolls their eyes.
I don't roll my eyes, I just ask what precisely they mean when they say Nazi, and usually precisely what they mean by whatever word they use in that response with a flexible definition. Because it could literally be anything between "murder anyone who isn't straight, white and Christian" and "not as progressive as Biden".
I mean, he essentially campaigned and won on not being Trump. He's been competent enough in office though.
"Inoffensively competent" is about the highest praise I'd give him, and it's deeply sad that that's a substantial improvement over his predecessor.
I'll give Trump that not everything he did in office was terrible - he did sign the FIRST STEP Act which was broadly a good thing, and I approved of the Devos Title IX policy changes, and that's about it.
Didn't Chris Matthews have a meltdown during the 2020 primaries when Bernie won Nevada, because he thought the DSA was going to round people up and execute them in Central Park?
No one relevant is pro-Nazi openly.. they're just quiet when it comes to being anti-Nazi. It's not meaningfully different when you're in leadership and have Nazis looking up to you.
The caption isn't "the prevailing belief that it's okay to be a Nazi". there are influential people in politics and social media that are open about being a Nazi (or at least poorly veiled dog whistles and a general agreement with Nazi rhetoric) and being openly anti-Nazi causes harassment and being called a groomer.
"Nazis are bad" is no longer a prevailing belief. it's still the majority opinion, but now there are "discussions" about the imaginary merits of Nazism and a rapidly growing population openly identifying with the term.
That’s not true. I see everyone around me promoting a lifestyle and ethics as desirable while on the dl living the lifestyle they decay. Which leads me to the conclusion it’s often not about what a thing actually is, but whether i can get orders to play the game of “it plausibly looks like x when it’s definitely y, upon closer examination, but no one cares as long as they can plausibly say it’s x when it’s most definitely y.
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Most of my bans from Reddit subs were for things like posting on a different sub or my favorite "egregious immorality" (mostly because that one was from a sub you wouldn't expect it from).
An overall disdain for anything too trendy or popular.
My teenage family members live and die by the trend cycle. Teenagers have always cared about what's cool, but now the trend cycle is so fast it's impossible to keep up without spending inordinate amounts of money and generating tons of waste. It also just doesn't seem great for their self-esteem.
I was a teen in the mid-2000s/early 2010s hipster Tumblr era, which of course came with its own issues. But at least the trend cycle took a few years, and if anything I liked was unpopular I could just roll my eyes and say it's just too obscure for you normies to understand.
I wouldn't be concerned about trending itself, it's that people seem to be favoring trends that are objectively bad. The pandemic people kept saying it wasn't real and would go away when summer of 2020 came... but that proved wrong, and so few seem to want to learn from the lesson of going against science in favor of Fox News or whatever other negative trend that crowds keep following. If we were trending towards building affordable houses for more people and sheltering the homeless and not making rent lock people into jobs they don't want - I'd thing it was progress. But right now, the crowds seem to be flocking to some negative-oriented Nazi kind of shit.
I respectfully disagree. Yes crazies are getting crazier and louder, but overall more young people are trending left -- and further left -- than ever. I don't think bigotry is particularly cool or trendy to most teenagers.
It isn't just their words, since 2014 they believe all kinds of wild things, and the pandemic was just one example of how they act out on these belief as business owners, neighbors, organizations. It isn't just politics.
It did. White supremacy is alive and well in the US. Yes it always existed, but these days Nazis sympathisers can show their allegiance in public. That wasn't the case 20-30 years ago.
Well? Fuck no lol. What is your definition of well? You specified the US. What policy,government institutions, organisations,condone white surpremacy? The closest thing you have that promotes white supremacy is critical race theory an idea that white people are inherently superior thus the need to uplift other races. A pretty awful thing to be sure but that is being met with widespread condemnation and active suppression. So another loss for WS.
As for showing their allegiance uh yeah thats always been a thing. You can go back ever further then 30 years when America had an actual nazi party. They didnt get very far cause ya know nazi's
But as for serious answer. The reality of premise posed by the post doesnt exist. People still consider Nazis to be bad. It just in this day and age the label nazi has become watered down and redundant.
As for Actual nazi's which the closest we have to are currently North Korean,Chinese and russian governments.
So going by the premise the person thinks nazi's are a problem when chsnces are what he thinks are nazi's arent actual nazi's but people they dont like for reasons that arent nazi related but feels strongly about theu feel the need to make the comparison to poach the anger and concern reserved for that label and place it on their source of hate
Yeah, you're right, White Supremacy, alignment with authoritarian states, open disdain for the law, forcible sterilization of 'inferiors', rhetoric of paranoia and sadistic violence, and literal coup attempts aren't enough, I have to be choking on Zyklon B personally before I can call out Nazis. Very fine people, on both sides.
Clearly the non toxic kind. You should try it sometime or at least take care of your hate boner as for some reason the concept of not being an absoloutist seems to upset you absolutely
I don't think actively not listening to nazis trying to occupy positions of power in mainstream political parties to pass horrendous legislation is the best course of action.
Well, that's what happens when you hyperbolically mislabel your political opponents as Nazis. Suddenly, half the country is Nazis because they don't want unlimited and unfiltered immigration.
I'm still in awe this saying made a comeback as strong as it did after 80 years. And somehow a lot of people fail to understand its impact.
I'm only in my late 20's and I'm scared I will have to face more and more Nazis in literally any country I decide to live in/visit. Because let's face it, it's not only Italy, Mexico, Japan and the USA with all time high far right movements.
Take comfort that things go in cycles. Every time we go too far in one direction, people rebel too far in the other direction.
Personally I’m hopeful this means the Republican Party is due to implode, and will need to rebuild based upon what used to be there fundamental principles of fiscal restraint, strong defense, investment in science, free trade, smaller government, actual family values. I hate supporting a billionaire, but Romney seems like the best example of what a Republican ought to be.
Same for every other country that swung far right int authoritarianism, xenophobia, hatred, corporate shilling, profiting off government
I don’t think neurotypical is very typical anymore. And rwa can be on either end of the political spectrum. I had to remind myself of this, as I age, rebuild neuronal connections. At this point, basic survival uses a lot of mental resources, which is where a lot of my problem occurs. I may or not be nt, but apparently, trauma, specifically complex trauma, has large symptom overlap with asd. Which leaves me in limbo, often, as evidenced by an earlier thread where you and I interacted. I didn’t know that i could subscribe to other servers via my particular platform, for example, until I got off my default view “all.” I did get off my default view and within the top five posts, saw an article about being able to subscribe to other instances via my platform. I wasn’t willfully obtuse, nor willfully ignorant. I just don’t spend a lot of time on lemmy and it’s my only social media. There are tradeoffs but it’s worth it.
"Oh no, I can't believe they're making me do this" the anti-immigrant crusader says as he abducts citizens on the streets of Portland and forcibly sterilizes asylum seekers, "If only the mean ol' liberals didn't call me a Nazi!"
2008 wasn't just a bad year. The job market never fully rebounded after 2008. A big part of this is that a lot of jobs were outsourced and not nearly enough real, lasting job creation occurred afterward. Haven't you heard about the Great Resignation and the Great Attrition? Do you know why two interconnected events occurred? Because ever since 2008, companies have been exploiting their workers by overworking, underpaying, and mistreating them. People got tired of accepting those conditions and the extra social spending allowed them to effectively strike. How were companies able to exploit their workers like that? By not having enough jobs. If there were more jobs, companies wouldn't be able to take advantage of their employees. Bringing in more potential workers would only serve to exacerbate the situation.
Which everything you just said is encompassed by one flaw that is almost impossible to fix. Our (at least in the US) profit driven mentality, and fuck you I got mine. We will cut off our nose to spite our face in the name of profit making. We will create social programs to essentially subsidize paychecks to help people who don't make enough to survive working 2 or 3 jobs (and then complain about those very same social programs impact on our taxes) because profits. Then we'll move these companies to other countries in the name of profits. Then we'll allow small businesses to get squashed by larger businesses because profits. Then we will gladly allow our retirements to be inextricably tied to the profits of these very same larger companies by giving our money back to them in our 401k's, IRAs which creates demand for ... more profits.
So no, it's not just a jobs issue. That's just a symptom of the larger issue. Now queue the "you're just a dirty communist/socialist" retorts.
His brain probably fried while trying to analyze a complex political/economic/cultural issue in a critical way instead of swallowing the nice and simple republican propaganda
The job market never fully rebounded after 2008. A big part of this is that a lot of jobs were outsourced
Jobs had been outsourced way before that, and the majority of jobs lost during the Great Recession were not the kind of jobs that it is economical to outsource. You're pulling shit out of your ass to justify your fear of 'furriners'.
Haven’t you heard about the Great Resignation and the Great Attrition? Do you know why two interconnected events occurred?
Because an unprecedented public health crisis led to a reduction in the amount of work available? By your logic, COVID should have resulted in employees being more exploited. But I don't know why I'm expecting consistency from an anti-immigration crusader.
Because ever since 2008, companies have been exploiting their workers by overworking, underpaying, and mistreating them.
I got bad news for you. It goes back way before 2008.
If there were more jobs, companies wouldn’t be able to take advantage of their employees.
Outsourcing jobs through NAFTA abs whatever iteration of international trade deals came after that is where jobs were lost, not because people from countries that were destabilized so other, “more free” countries could have overpriced crap was the problem. Corporations and shareholders saved on labor and pollution-disposal costs, prices went up and we demonized anyone who has a problem with these things as antiglobalists. The factions that do have a problem with these things largely have a problem with racism, sexism, globalism, and giving anything earned by anyone outside their personal in-group a modest living standard.
There are some of us who see that the ultrawealthy have declared this to be a zero-sum game, with stupidest of divisions, that are “real” in that they exist, but illusory in that they actually don’t matter to the survival of our preferred in-groups.
I posit that the real threat to our own survival is not questioning why it’sa zero-sum issue, when it’s nothing off the sort and get busy setting aside differences so we can work towards sustainable survival, of ourselves, our habitat, and others, including species, that share the same habitat.
Look at what happened in the UK where they "solved" that "problem". Suddenly a lot of jobs are vacated because no local would do any of that shitty work under shitty conditions with shitty pay. The immigrants were the only people that kept that capitalistic exploiting machine running because they had lower standards. The whole country profited from that.
But it wasn't enough to exploit them, they also had to be painted as parasites so the right wing fascit fuckheads could spit on something. And now they have endless holes in their economy. Well done.
What do you think would happen if there weren’t any cheap foreign laborers and local folks refused to work until compensation and conditions improved?
For the record - I don’t hate immigrants. I hate companies for cutting way more jobs than necessary and then using cheap imported labor as an excuse to pay less.
If people accuse you of being a nazi, you either are one or you associate with them
That being said, I wouldn't call present day Republicans nazis. That's a very specific brand. Wannabe fascists and totalitarians on the other hand, definitely. And not because of their stance on immigration.
Some definitely are fascists and totalitarians, like the ones who want to ban birth control. Christofascism isn't just a left-wing boogeyman. It's real. Some Christians are ironically very unchristian.
Bring back video games where the developers make them to be fun and players play them to have fun.
Too many developers are in it for profit and too many players demand optimal competitive play.
Sometimes I don't want to conform to the min/max meta, Jason.
Been brought up before but the indie market still chugging along.
Now if you want big expensive AAA "bring my RTX / i9 I spent too much money on to it's very knees" with that, that's impossible. Besides, poor optimization will put that stupid expensive rig to the test 😂
it sounds like you're sleeping on indie games. I haven't cared about AAA games in years bc of the things you mentioned, but there's thousands of amazing and super high quality indie games out there that are made as passion projects from devs who just want people to have fun. the barrier to entry for becoming a game dev has been steadily lowering since the 80's, almost anyone can make a game now so there's really no reason to rely on giant game corporations as your only source
Honestly, I got the Xbox and I mostly play indie games on Xbox game pass. And I have had such an amazing time with them. And if I want to play a triple A game I can probably find a used disc somewhere pretty cheap. Indie games are awesome. I loved Hoa, cried so much at the end.
Why are we demonizing game dev for trying to eat?
Because it doesn't go to devs it goes to the pocket of publisher's ceos.
I legitimately think they just mean publishers and board shareholders. Most (read most, there are also plenty of devs with retard level hot takes on twitter about their constituents, and their clear jealousy of a better product) devs hate the features they have to implement.
If you wanted to eat, you wouldn't leverage your $40k college degree for a $30k code monkey job at one of EA's digital sweatshops.
This isn't about somebody "trying to eat". Devs are being paid by the publishers either way (until they get fired of course). Monetisation and "games as a live service" are implemented to increase profit for shareholders. Gamepublishing is already the largest entertainment industry, so this is just about adding more profits to already extreme profits.
This month had two great releases in that regard, Baldur's Gate 3 and Bomb Rush Cyberfunk. Labor of love games are real and on the rise.
Totally agree but in many cases it's actually the publishers, not the developers. That's my understanding at least.
It's been happening for so long that if a developer gets into bed with one of the big publishers then they should know what's going to happen.
Pretty sure there are way more games now than they're ever has been. Look outside the major publishers. Any big company is going to be in it for the money. That's their main goal.
Hard to convince me that wasn't intentional
It was very explicitly and obviously intentional, and began in the mid to late 19th century.
Yep. I know people love to idolize FDR, but the way he got the New Deal passed was with the argument that it was the "bare minimum we have to do to ensure that socialism doesn't take root in the US for at least another 70 years." Which is why the politicians started trying to revoke those promises the day after it passed.
It literally was.
Fear of communism has fucked up the US in so many ways. Before the 80s, it was McCarthyism and putting "In God We Trust" on our money.
That was on our money by 1865.
If only Stalin were in charge. That guy would have actually built a wall instead of this pussy ass Trump shit. Comrade.
Stalin was ruthless, not stupid. He would have looked at the existing barriers and realized that it would be a waste of resources to try to build a wall in the middle of a desert.
Wolfenstein The New Order: Nice! Killing knot-zees like it's 1992!!
Wolfenstein II The New Collosus: what is this woke anti American shit/why can't we play as the real "good" guys
Gee. Somewhere between the release of these two games public opinion changed. The first came out in 2014, btw. The second's ad campaign had "Make America Nazi Free Again" as a slogan, something that id thought we'd all agree. Nazis were in that safe group of "enemies we can slaughter without guilt" alongside aliens, zombies and robots.
I got banned from reddit for saying: Wolfenstein The New Order is one of if not the best game of all time, the only good nazi is a dead nazi. GET HYPED!
I mean, I'm happy they had an implosion, but it should have been because of the nazi sympathy, not because of their api.
Getting banned for being a Basterd is a badge of honor my good person.
BJ Blazkowicz wants his scalps.
Well one cost “the right people” more money than they were willing to give and one didn’t. It’s almost like money doesn’t matter until it matters to the gawd, it sounds crazy to say it, it’s so dystopian, shadow governments’ corporate overlords. Lives otoh… shudder
New Colossus came out in 2017. We all know what happened that made being a fascist piece of shit mainstream.
Gee, that wouldn't happen to be a poke at a particular presidential campaign?
In that sense it's a perfect double bind
It can only piss off Nazi sympathizers tbh. I mean If you believed that America was going downhill and wanted to make it "great again" surely making it Nazi Free would be part of that goal right?
Unless... 🤔
LOL you ain't wrong. It's definitely very hard for what it is. I beat it in the Normal equivalent and had fun.
when it comes to woke its not what you see. But what you not see.
I would love old school arcades. I feel like, most people today just don't know what a wonderful place they used to be.
No stupid toys to win. No tickets. No tokens or any virtual currency.
Most games were a quarter with some of the larger ones being two quarters. You just hung out, played games, met new people, got to experience a wide range of games from shooters, side scroller fighters, sports, etc.
It was truly magical. Was one of the best things at the mall.
Go to a barcade? This concept still exists. It is just for adults now.
Most of them are free play with $20 entry. There are so many barcade near me - I don't even bother with the ones that charge quarters. It was a rip off back then, and it's still a rip off now
Yeah, the games would allow you to continue from where you died for another quarter, as long as you got it in fast enough
Remember the panic you felt as you tried fishing around for a quarter while watching the timer count down?
Yes. And the absolute betrayal when I got the quarter in a second too late.
I'm old enough to remember when Republicans did an Obama Hitler image mash up to discourage liberals from voting for him.
Already evidence that they didn't understand what Hitler was and just symbolically associated black color with bad things.
They did what now?
https://www.npr.org/2010/07/14/128514851/obama-hitler-billboard-covered-up-in-iowa
Legit "Obama Hitler ad" on Google.
This entire "ANTI-WOKE" is just some bullshit that the most ignorant bigots hide behind thinking they can be as fucking awful as they want to be.
They've even brought back anti-gay with the anti-trans thing under the old "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" banner which is pure bullshit.
It really seemed for a good 10-15 years that that shit was conquered.
These morons hide their racism by scoffing at anything with a non-white person in it with the label "POC".
The funniest thing is, they think their fucking clever and they use 1950's housefrau shit like "DENGENERATE" and other outmoded bullshit words.
They make fun of the left for being triggered by their own shadows(which does happen) but these morons are scared of anything not white and not straight, it's really awful but kind of funny in a sick way.
Anti-woke is just another word for brain damaged
It’s almost like a spectrum with anything outside what I’m comfortable with is where I draw the line, especially if I’m dabbling or experimenting with anything that makes me vaguely uncomfortable, because what I’d people get the wrong idea that I’m “that,” isn’t it? The slider moves, everyone!
Don't know about USA, but in Germany the inflationary use of "Nazi" by leftists weakened the term a lot. So if someone is called a Nazi, you don't have to assume anymore it's a bad person. I believe it will be impossible to turn that back.
See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concept_creep and https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aap8731
Excited to hear more about the big leftist media outlets that have dominated Germany for the last sixty years.
Damn this mf spittin.
Ahhh is it a US type situation over there as well? Nothing but right wing media in sight. At least when talking about all mainstream media.
Yes, that's definitely what it sounds like and totally not people who thought they would get punched for being a Nazi coming out because now they realize Nazism is more tolerated than they thought it was
More tolerated? Let me know when the nazi's win an election
Braydox on his way to the camps: "Okay, but they haven't actually killed us yet, so are they really Nazis?"
It's awfully convenient that your criteria for "Are Nazis a problem" is "Have they already won"
Ah yes being sceptical of a random online photo is clearly the same as being skeptical. You need to work on your bots ai as it foesnt seem very good at responding to context
You: "Let me know when the nazi’s win an election"
Me: "It's awfully convenient that your criteria for "Are Nazis a problem" is "Have they already won""
Don't see where a 'random online photo' comes into it, but I suppose I shouldn't expect too much of enlightened centrists who carry water for Nazis.
Right so you arent responding to this conversation. If you were you would have the context needed to understand and not make insert bot upset claims and hyperbolic strawmam claims
You can go down the reply chain and check. There's no image here in this comment chain. In the future, since you apparently cannot distinguish between multiple conversations, you should probably stick to replying to one person.
Here’s a photo from the Republican National Convention
Ah perfect evidence.
Yeah. It is. When someone does the Nazi salute in public, they are telling you who they are, and you should believe them.
The previous sentiment goes for anyone. When they clearly tell you, through actions not words, who they are, you would be wise to believe them. It is extremely rare that someone intentionally acts against their own personal interests at the time of their actions. They may unknowingly do so, such as by voting for Nazis, but rarely do they do so intentionally.
No its not. Its a screenshot devoid of context.
How long have you been on the internet that you are given an image and take that image at face value?
I saw the video, which had context. She brazenly did a Nazi salute, and you are sealioning, which indicates that you're a Nazi sympathizer.
Let me introduce you to the AfD that already occupy a few local constituencies.
By all means a quick google seaech tells me they are cringe but not nazi's
https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/news/anklage-gegen-thueringer-afd-chef-bjoern-hoecke-wegen-ns-vokabular-li.355905
https://www.stern.de/amp/politik/deutschland/afd-aussteigerin---die-nazis-in-der-partei-stoeren-die-leute-nicht-mehr--33744578.html
https://www.hessenschau.de/politik/demonstranten-duerfen-afd-politiker-bjoern-hoecke-als-nazi-bezeichnen-v1,ermittlungen-hoecke-ist-ein-nazi-eingesellt-100.html
https://taz.de/AfD-Parteitag-in-Magdeburg/!5947746/
The party is full of (Neo)Nazis, even in high ranks; one of them may even officially be called Nazi. Their whole program and style is essentially NSDAP playbook.
The most nazi thing in the links you provided were the government banning certain slogans.
What is your definition of nazi as that will probably explain a few things.
You had use of a banned slogan. A nazi accusation, party memeber leaving due to claims of right wing infiltration.
None of that is evidence of them being nazi's. Sus for sure but pretty weak.
I just did another quick google search regarding the somewhat recent arrests from that attempted coup. Albeit they were former members of the party so i guess too extreme for the AFD. And well not very competent or numerous.
But thats kinda something.
https://www.google.com/search?q=afd+party+arrests&oq=afd+party+arrests&aqs=chrome..69i57.5059j0j7&client=ms-android-gotron&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
They are against immigrants, want to suppress freedom, want to separate kids with disabilities from other kids in schools, etc. They not just tolerate but supports Nazis like Höcke, who btw. told an inteviewer once that once he's in power, the interviewer will regret asking those questions.
I mean sure, we can pretend that they are not as bad as the NSDAP was back then and do the same thing we did with the NSDAP: giving them power. But then we will just end up with the next Nazi government like last time. I would prefer not to.
I agree it used to mean actual, armband wearing, genocide creating, goose stepping evil people that started WWII.
Yes today there are still people who somehow support that shit with the books, flags, tats and armbands to prove it. There is a term for it. Neo Nazi. If you want Nazis to punch these are it, though it might not make them any less of one.
Now by that standard is Trump a Nazi? No. But some throw the term around to essentially mean group=bad. The left crazies do it with nazi, the right crazies do it with communism. Over time it loses meaning to the point where nobody takes it seriously. Boy who cried wolf. The way to stop that is to only use the term on the real people, not the kinda sorta if you squint your eyes it's similar in a way people. Not to say they they aren't assholes or don't deserve to be called out by other terms..
Anyway yes people hate the real deal Nazis, but probably not every group someone on twitter slaps that label on to. End rant.
Trump may not be a Nazi or a Neo-Nazi, as those are extremely specific subsets of Fascism. Trump is an authoritarian fascist. His TV series proved that well before his second or third presidential campaign.
I agree. But he's also not "actual Hitler" as many have said over the years. It's different levels of asshole and I wish people had more nuance is my point
Idk, he wanted to order the military to go in with weapons blazing at blm protesters. Defended those who marched and chanted in Charlottesville that “Jews! Will not! Replace us!”
He may not have the name hitler, but he seems to love that stuff. Oh yeah and covered up (has something to do with?) Kashoggi being quartered, alive when he himself couldn’t listen to the tapes of the sounds of agony. What exactly would earn him “Nazi” status, in your view?
It’s almost as if there’sa term for right wing authoritarianism/authoritarianism, isn’t it?
Similer circumstance in russia. Where everyone bad and aganist russia is a nazi. Ukraine needing dezafication. Etc since from their perspective its only ever been Nazi's they had no red scare since they were the red scare
And what! Is wrong with Zafication?!?! I'll tell you something, if you've got a problem with Zafis, then you've got a problem with me! I suggest you think about that! /j
Damn zafi's
Also terms like "grammar Nazi" is helping to weaken the seriousness of the word.
In Denmark people sometimes use it to say that somebody is quite particular about something (similar to "grammar Nazi") like " yeah, he's kinda Nazi about people not wearing shoes in his apartment" I don't know if that's common in other countries too? But it's definitely weakening the gravity of the word 'nazi".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ToEvz-7trY
And I'm here wondering if Godwin's idea came because he saw something like this and wanted to stop it or if he saw an opportunity to silence criticism of Nazi-like strategies.
And I'm not sure if I should be happy or sad that we're in a post-Godwin world now. On the one hand, it was a dumb "rule" because there's certainly times where Nazi comparisons are apt. But on the other hand, we only got post-Godwin because Nazi ideas have regained enough popularity that some are openly embracing the label.
I see facist pedophiles who are also extremely racist against non whites daily in Montana. Is that a Nazi?
Anyone who apologizes for Nazi ideologies is a Nazi. They are spreaders of the Nazi intellectual contagion.
Never forget.
Just FYI, it's fascist
Was supposed to be racist child molesters. Will edit. Not that racism and fascism isn't the same.
Just FYI, it's fascist
It's exactly the same here in the US. Anyone right of Bernie Sandars was called a Nazi for a few years there (happens less today, but still happens), so now when someone shouts nazi, everyone just rolls their eyes.
I don't roll my eyes, I just ask what precisely they mean when they say Nazi, and usually precisely what they mean by whatever word they use in that response with a flexible definition. Because it could literally be anything between "murder anyone who isn't straight, white and Christian" and "not as progressive as Biden".
To be fair, basically the best thing we can say about Biden is that he's not a Nazi.
I mean, he essentially campaigned and won on not being Trump. He's been competent enough in office though.
"Inoffensively competent" is about the highest praise I'd give him, and it's deeply sad that that's a substantial improvement over his predecessor.
I'll give Trump that not everything he did in office was terrible - he did sign the FIRST STEP Act which was broadly a good thing, and I approved of the Devos Title IX policy changes, and that's about it.
Biden isn’t progressive. He’s kind of socially left and economically right.
Didn't Chris Matthews have a meltdown during the 2020 primaries when Bernie won Nevada, because he thought the DSA was going to round people up and execute them in Central Park?
Ramifications of failures from education systems throughout the U.S.
Can't be surprised that no one articulates themselves properly when the only things most of these people read are less than 150 characters at a time.
It also happens the other way: Sanders, Cortez are called socialists, and even refer to themselves as socialist. Neither are anything of the sort.
No one relevant is pro-Nazi openly.. they're just quiet when it comes to being anti-Nazi. It's not meaningfully different when you're in leadership and have Nazis looking up to you.
The caption isn't "the prevailing belief that it's okay to be a Nazi". there are influential people in politics and social media that are open about being a Nazi (or at least poorly veiled dog whistles and a general agreement with Nazi rhetoric) and being openly anti-Nazi causes harassment and being called a groomer.
"Nazis are bad" is no longer a prevailing belief. it's still the majority opinion, but now there are "discussions" about the imaginary merits of Nazism and a rapidly growing population openly identifying with the term.
That’s not true. I see everyone around me promoting a lifestyle and ethics as desirable while on the dl living the lifestyle they decay. Which leads me to the conclusion it’s often not about what a thing actually is, but whether i can get orders to play the game of “it plausibly looks like x when it’s definitely y, upon closer examination, but no one cares as long as they can plausibly say it’s x when it’s most definitely y.
Screaming and crying about political correctness, not because I believe politically incorrect things but for a secret other reason.
Trump has been explicitly pro-Mussolini in a number of interviews.
And he was clearly having a severe manic episode that people conveniently forgot, becuse mobs can't handle nuance.
I love how I got downvoted for saying "mobs can't handle nuance".
Obviously someone considers themselves part of a mob and was offended. 🤔
You're getting downvoted because you're arguing that being in some sort of manic episode excuses that shit.
Admittedly I don't pay much attention to him, so I could be wrong, but I don't think he's tried to walk any of that back since then either.
I know I am.
I also know the people who are doing it have no fucking idea what they are talking about.
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Ahh thanks!
I would've said Heelies, but I guess that's good too.
I'd like this AND "Getting banned from a website requires you to draw unnecessary attention to yourself through misbehavior"
Yes I am STILL salty about the Reddit ban!
Don't worry, this is only your FIRST ban in this beautiful and blessed Web 3.0 landscape. 😀
.....
If I lose Discord I'm killing myself
Most of my bans from Reddit subs were for things like posting on a different sub or my favorite "egregious immorality" (mostly because that one was from a sub you wouldn't expect it from).
What finally got you the site wide?
so true, everyone LOVES nazis now!
Half the country, it would seem.
absolutely, you can't turn over a rock without hearing a republican talk about how much they LOVE nazis!
TIL we all live in the same country and half of, whatever this country is, are Nazis.
An overall disdain for anything too trendy or popular.
My teenage family members live and die by the trend cycle. Teenagers have always cared about what's cool, but now the trend cycle is so fast it's impossible to keep up without spending inordinate amounts of money and generating tons of waste. It also just doesn't seem great for their self-esteem.
I was a teen in the mid-2000s/early 2010s hipster Tumblr era, which of course came with its own issues. But at least the trend cycle took a few years, and if anything I liked was unpopular I could just roll my eyes and say it's just too obscure for you normies to understand.
I wouldn't be concerned about trending itself, it's that people seem to be favoring trends that are objectively bad. The pandemic people kept saying it wasn't real and would go away when summer of 2020 came... but that proved wrong, and so few seem to want to learn from the lesson of going against science in favor of Fox News or whatever other negative trend that crowds keep following. If we were trending towards building affordable houses for more people and sheltering the homeless and not making rent lock people into jobs they don't want - I'd thing it was progress. But right now, the crowds seem to be flocking to some negative-oriented Nazi kind of shit.
I respectfully disagree. Yes crazies are getting crazier and louder, but overall more young people are trending left -- and further left -- than ever. I don't think bigotry is particularly cool or trendy to most teenagers.
It isn't just their words, since 2014 they believe all kinds of wild things, and the pandemic was just one example of how they act out on these belief as business owners, neighbors, organizations. It isn't just politics.
Hogan's Heroes
That never left
"They love what I have to say, they just don't like the word Nazi"
Nazis, I hate these guys. - Indiana Jones
We need the mullet to come back.
Not sure where you've been but it came back 2 years ago...
I’m in a big city, so maybe that’s why. I want to see ceos and important looking people with mullets.
Ah, yes. Regaled early adopters of trendy haircuts: the white collar class
Move to Chief land Florida, Home of the Mullet. It's beautiful if you don't mind the heat.
idk where you're at but some version of the mullet, or "flow," made a comeback a decade ago in my home city.
absolutely has made a comeback 😎
Hope for the future.
I wonder why this is nsfw ?
The Toadies and Better than Ezra
Nostalgia!
Top comment is about games.
The left is calling the right nazis.
The right is calling the left nazis.
The nazis first endorsed Trump when it was against Hillary, then Biden against Trump.
These are confusing times,but rest assured that the prevailing belief is that nazis are bad.
Low effort repost aside.
That hasnt changed if it had it wouldn't be used as a stick to beat people with.
Problem is the definition of nazi has changed due to said stick beating
It did. White supremacy is alive and well in the US. Yes it always existed, but these days Nazis sympathisers can show their allegiance in public. That wasn't the case 20-30 years ago.
I used to think it was better when people are open about ego they are, and it may be; but since campaign cycle of 2015, it seems very much worse.
Alive yes.
Well? Fuck no lol. What is your definition of well? You specified the US. What policy,government institutions, organisations,condone white surpremacy? The closest thing you have that promotes white supremacy is critical race theory an idea that white people are inherently superior thus the need to uplift other races. A pretty awful thing to be sure but that is being met with widespread condemnation and active suppression. So another loss for WS.
As for showing their allegiance uh yeah thats always been a thing. You can go back ever further then 30 years when America had an actual nazi party. They didnt get very far cause ya know nazi's
You're proving the point. You're falling for the far right propaganda.
You probably don't even know what critical race theory consists of at all, do you?
Right, I was like “what? Maybe this person doesn’t know what crt is, or misinterpreted what’s s/he’s reading?”
What makes you say this?
This post
Can you elaborate?
Yes
Funny guy.
Couldnt resist.
But as for serious answer. The reality of premise posed by the post doesnt exist. People still consider Nazis to be bad. It just in this day and age the label nazi has become watered down and redundant. As for Actual nazi's which the closest we have to are currently North Korean,Chinese and russian governments.
So going by the premise the person thinks nazi's are a problem when chsnces are what he thinks are nazi's arent actual nazi's but people they dont like for reasons that arent nazi related but feels strongly about theu feel the need to make the comparison to poach the anger and concern reserved for that label and place it on their source of hate
Yeah, you're right, White Supremacy, alignment with authoritarian states, open disdain for the law, forcible sterilization of 'inferiors', rhetoric of paranoia and sadistic violence, and literal coup attempts aren't enough, I have to be choking on Zyklon B personally before I can call out Nazis. Very fine people, on both sides.
Being forced by skinheads be a skinhead is no excuse for being a nazi.
If you're being forced to be a thing then you arent really that thing
If you are forced to become a nazi, and you become a nazi, then you are a nazi bitch.
Why the distinction? Yes if you choose to be a nazi then you're a nazi.
Looking at your drivel on this thread, what mush exists In your noggin?
Clearly the non toxic kind. You should try it sometime or at least take care of your hate boner as for some reason the concept of not being an absoloutist seems to upset you absolutely
Ummm... all the nazis
its all our problem :/
I don't think actively not listening to nazis trying to occupy positions of power in mainstream political parties to pass horrendous legislation is the best course of action.
centrists be like
Well, that's what happens when you hyperbolically mislabel your political opponents as Nazis. Suddenly, half the country is Nazis because they don't want unlimited and unfiltered immigration.
…. And are racist, and authoritarian, with extreme views on “those people” getting what they deserved
Just as Democrats aren't a monolith, Republicans also aren't a monolith.
Republicans are 9 Nazis sitting at a table with 1 non-Nazi.
This is also known as '10 Nazis'.
I'm still in awe this saying made a comeback as strong as it did after 80 years. And somehow a lot of people fail to understand its impact.
I'm only in my late 20's and I'm scared I will have to face more and more Nazis in literally any country I decide to live in/visit. Because let's face it, it's not only Italy, Mexico, Japan and the USA with all time high far right movements.
Take comfort that things go in cycles. Every time we go too far in one direction, people rebel too far in the other direction.
Personally I’m hopeful this means the Republican Party is due to implode, and will need to rebuild based upon what used to be there fundamental principles of fiscal restraint, strong defense, investment in science, free trade, smaller government, actual family values. I hate supporting a billionaire, but Romney seems like the best example of what a Republican ought to be.
Same for every other country that swung far right int authoritarianism, xenophobia, hatred, corporate shilling, profiting off government
Obamacare was originally modeled on romneycare and look how that went.
I don’t think neurotypical is very typical anymore. And rwa can be on either end of the political spectrum. I had to remind myself of this, as I age, rebuild neuronal connections. At this point, basic survival uses a lot of mental resources, which is where a lot of my problem occurs. I may or not be nt, but apparently, trauma, specifically complex trauma, has large symptom overlap with asd. Which leaves me in limbo, often, as evidenced by an earlier thread where you and I interacted. I didn’t know that i could subscribe to other servers via my particular platform, for example, until I got off my default view “all.” I did get off my default view and within the top five posts, saw an article about being able to subscribe to other instances via my platform. I wasn’t willfully obtuse, nor willfully ignorant. I just don’t spend a lot of time on lemmy and it’s my only social media. There are tradeoffs but it’s worth it.
"Oh no, I can't believe they're making me do this" the anti-immigrant crusader says as he abducts citizens on the streets of Portland and forcibly sterilizes asylum seekers, "If only the mean ol' liberals didn't call me a Nazi!"
You obviously haven't been in the job market in the last 15 years.
Ah, the old 'immigrants are taking our jobs!' argument, old as time itself.
"Last 15 years"
So it started in 2008?
2008 wasn't just a bad year. The job market never fully rebounded after 2008. A big part of this is that a lot of jobs were outsourced and not nearly enough real, lasting job creation occurred afterward. Haven't you heard about the Great Resignation and the Great Attrition? Do you know why two interconnected events occurred? Because ever since 2008, companies have been exploiting their workers by overworking, underpaying, and mistreating them. People got tired of accepting those conditions and the extra social spending allowed them to effectively strike. How were companies able to exploit their workers like that? By not having enough jobs. If there were more jobs, companies wouldn't be able to take advantage of their employees. Bringing in more potential workers would only serve to exacerbate the situation.
Which everything you just said is encompassed by one flaw that is almost impossible to fix. Our (at least in the US) profit driven mentality, and fuck you I got mine. We will cut off our nose to spite our face in the name of profit making. We will create social programs to essentially subsidize paychecks to help people who don't make enough to survive working 2 or 3 jobs (and then complain about those very same social programs impact on our taxes) because profits. Then we'll move these companies to other countries in the name of profits. Then we'll allow small businesses to get squashed by larger businesses because profits. Then we will gladly allow our retirements to be inextricably tied to the profits of these very same larger companies by giving our money back to them in our 401k's, IRAs which creates demand for ... more profits.
So no, it's not just a jobs issue. That's just a symptom of the larger issue. Now queue the "you're just a dirty communist/socialist" retorts.
His brain probably fried while trying to analyze a complex political/economic/cultural issue in a critical way instead of swallowing the nice and simple republican propaganda
Most welfare is for wealthy and corporations who privatize profit and socialized loss, but it’s seldom discussed with any real vigor.
Jobs had been outsourced way before that, and the majority of jobs lost during the Great Recession were not the kind of jobs that it is economical to outsource. You're pulling shit out of your ass to justify your fear of 'furriners'.
Because an unprecedented public health crisis led to a reduction in the amount of work available? By your logic, COVID should have resulted in employees being more exploited. But I don't know why I'm expecting consistency from an anti-immigration crusader.
I got bad news for you. It goes back way before 2008.
That's not even close to true.
Outsourcing jobs through NAFTA abs whatever iteration of international trade deals came after that is where jobs were lost, not because people from countries that were destabilized so other, “more free” countries could have overpriced crap was the problem. Corporations and shareholders saved on labor and pollution-disposal costs, prices went up and we demonized anyone who has a problem with these things as antiglobalists. The factions that do have a problem with these things largely have a problem with racism, sexism, globalism, and giving anything earned by anyone outside their personal in-group a modest living standard.
There are some of us who see that the ultrawealthy have declared this to be a zero-sum game, with stupidest of divisions, that are “real” in that they exist, but illusory in that they actually don’t matter to the survival of our preferred in-groups.
I posit that the real threat to our own survival is not questioning why it’sa zero-sum issue, when it’s nothing off the sort and get busy setting aside differences so we can work towards sustainable survival, of ourselves, our habitat, and others, including species, that share the same habitat.
I have, and I have no idea what you're talking about. Immigrants create jobs, because they need goods and services just like everybody else.
Look at what happened in the UK where they "solved" that "problem". Suddenly a lot of jobs are vacated because no local would do any of that shitty work under shitty conditions with shitty pay. The immigrants were the only people that kept that capitalistic exploiting machine running because they had lower standards. The whole country profited from that.
But it wasn't enough to exploit them, they also had to be painted as parasites so the right wing fascit fuckheads could spit on something. And now they have endless holes in their economy. Well done.
What do you think would happen if there weren’t any cheap foreign laborers and local folks refused to work until compensation and conditions improved?
For the record - I don’t hate immigrants. I hate companies for cutting way more jobs than necessary and then using cheap imported labor as an excuse to pay less.
If people accuse you of being a nazi, you either are one or you associate with them
That being said, I wouldn't call present day Republicans nazis. That's a very specific brand. Wannabe fascists and totalitarians on the other hand, definitely. And not because of their stance on immigration.
Some definitely are fascists and totalitarians, like the ones who want to ban birth control. Christofascism isn't just a left-wing boogeyman. It's real. Some Christians are ironically very unchristian.
No True Scotsman fallacy.
They’re more like ancient Jews than followers of Jesus.
I’ve often said the gods were worship reflect our inner landscape.