It's been a while since I saw the ep, but wasn't Moriarty stuck on because the computer was asked to create an opponent that could beat Data and it got caught in a weird loop? I'm pretty sure Moriarty was a major exception in some way, none of the other constructs are self aware and all get turned off with the program
Did he actually stay on like Moriarty? IIRC, Moriarty became self-aware/sentient and the crew was ethically bound to keep him running. With Vic Fontaine, I think it was more a case of “saving the game” so he could continue friendships when he was activated again.
Not all the time. There's an episode where Vic mentions the longest he's ever been on has been 7-9 hours ::: spoiler spoiler
When Nog had his leg replaced and suffered from PTSD
:::
He's a standalone hologram inside the medbay, although IIRC in later seasons Tom Paris rigs up some portable holoprojector thing so he can walk around the ship. But yeah, that's similar. He grows and learns and expands his AI programming.
Huh......I had no idea this comic was a reference to a tv show. I just thought everyone else ALSO wanted to leave, because, well.....have you SEEN reality lately? I am not a fan. I can fully relate with wanting to log out of this timeline. How much worse can another reality possibly be? I feel like rolling the dice on a different timeline doesn't have much risk. Worst case scenario you an equally bad reality. We're already at bedrock.
I am a benevolent but incompetent ruler. My NPCs would be happy right up until they all died because I put off some boring upgrade/maintenance task and the colony exploded.
My bad, was meant to be an expansion, not a correction. I have the insufferable need to chime in sometimes and pre-resolve potential ambiguities. It's something im working on.
Reason I even brought it up is I'm usually nice to npc's in general, but man. Some people I see in videos or anecdotes from assosciates got me giving them a mad side-eye. 1's and 0's or not, the malice and sadism gets ridiculous sometimes. Makes me repeatedly realize how different some people consume the same game as me in ways I never thought of and/or could never bring myself to do.
Reason I even brought it up is I'm usually nice to npc's in general, but man. Some people I see in videos or anecdotes from assosciates got me giving them a mad side-eye. 1's and 0's or not, the malice and sadism gets ridiculous sometimes. Makes me repeatedly realize how different some people consume the same game as me in ways I never thought of and/or could never bring myself to do.
You'll be pleased to know in cases where single player games with branching storylines have collected data, it's been shown that players overwhelmingly go with the 'good' storyline :)
I'd like to see this done on a candid camera, punkd, etc type show. Build a set with some magician level gimmick and have someone do something game-y, then log out. The look on the faces of the people as their brains melted out their ears would be hilarious.
This is the lesser shown part of the holodeck program.
We know they experience this because Moriarty learned to summon the arch.
It's been a while since I saw the ep, but wasn't Moriarty stuck on because the computer was asked to create an opponent that could beat Data and it got caught in a weird loop? I'm pretty sure Moriarty was a major exception in some way, none of the other constructs are self aware and all get turned off with the program
That one lounge singer in DS9 stayed on too
Did he actually stay on like Moriarty? IIRC, Moriarty became self-aware/sentient and the crew was ethically bound to keep him running. With Vic Fontaine, I think it was more a case of “saving the game” so he could continue friendships when he was activated again.
Yes, Vic Fontaine was a regular occurrence. He was not your typical program either, but because of that they let his program run all the time.
Not all the time. There's an episode where Vic mentions the longest he's ever been on has been 7-9 hours ::: spoiler spoiler When Nog had his leg replaced and suffered from PTSD :::
Isnt the voyager doctor also part of thr holodeck who can somehow walk around outside?
He's a standalone hologram inside the medbay, although IIRC in later seasons Tom Paris rigs up some portable holoprojector thing so he can walk around the ship. But yeah, that's similar. He grows and learns and expands his AI programming.
Huh......I had no idea this comic was a reference to a tv show. I just thought everyone else ALSO wanted to leave, because, well.....have you SEEN reality lately? I am not a fan. I can fully relate with wanting to log out of this timeline. How much worse can another reality possibly be? I feel like rolling the dice on a different timeline doesn't have much risk. Worst case scenario you an equally bad reality. We're already at bedrock.
I don’t think it is, it’s just a “Simpsons did it” moment where trek has explored a ton of sci-fi ideas over the decades.
Considering gaming experiences are usually more enjoyable than real life, I’d like to ask what’s outside like before logging out.
They're more enjoyable for the player. It usually sucks big time to be an NPC in a game
I dunno man, I think I'd enjoy being an NPC in some of the sim/builders I play. I enjoy it when my loyal subjects are happy.
On the other hand, if they're not happy I usually decide to give them something to be not happy about.
You know what, forget the whole NPC thing. Players are voletile gods.
I am a benevolent but incompetent ruler. My NPCs would be happy right up until they all died because I put off some boring upgrade/maintenance task and the colony exploded.
I’d hate being an NPC in the games I play. Especially since fiery deaths are often a loophole to the “no killing NPCs” rule.
Sometimes I feel like an Adventures of Link NPC.
I am error.
Depends on the game. Depends on the player.
My bad, was meant to be an expansion, not a correction. I have the insufferable need to chime in sometimes and pre-resolve potential ambiguities. It's something im working on.
Reason I even brought it up is I'm usually nice to npc's in general, but man. Some people I see in videos or anecdotes from assosciates got me giving them a mad side-eye. 1's and 0's or not, the malice and sadism gets ridiculous sometimes. Makes me repeatedly realize how different some people consume the same game as me in ways I never thought of and/or could never bring myself to do.
Anyway, interjection over, that was it
You'll be pleased to know in cases where single player games with branching storylines have collected data, it's been shown that players overwhelmingly go with the 'good' storyline :)
Wait until they discover minecraft players...
Gotta give credit to games like Stardew.
Sorry but you NPCs aren't supposed to know that information... It causes issues...
Great day for fishin, aint it
I want to achieve Chim
Great to hear. Just terminate the session then. Do it now!
I know it probably has a reset button.
Like Bo Burnham sang once From God's Perspective, we may be "just a bad game of Sims".
Are you questioning the nature of your reality?
I'd like to see this done on a candid camera, punkd, etc type show. Build a set with some magician level gimmick and have someone do something game-y, then log out. The look on the faces of the people as their brains melted out their ears would be hilarious.
Trapdoor would be easiest, but something other than smoke would be preferable.
"Colon W Q!"
Oh god, we're living in vi. That explains so much.
"Con Troll Ex, Control Sea."
Ah, command mode is in my colon. That explains the shitty experience within this game.
"Escape escape COLON W Q!"
:x!Is the wayI use
ZZirl, but:wqis the memeI'll take "pranks I'd pull if I had a teleporter" for 500, Alex.
This is terrifying.
Or is it the greatest relief?
:q
COLON Q! COLON QUEUE! COLON KYU! COLON EXCLAMARION KYU! IT'S NOT WORKIIIIIIIIIING!
No saving?
Get a load of this guy with a life he might want to come back to. Even at my best moments I’d maybe git stash.
Wait, where did ragas go? What's happening here?!!!
Because they can’t quit it?
Fuck logging out, I'm gonna change the parameters.
Computer; Arch!
I use arch btw
Fire up the media player, I think the entire world needs to listen to some Sparks.
Strange that Star Trek never did that scenario - it is pure Pirandello existential horror.
They kind of did, in TNG. "Ship in a Bottle".
Season 6 Episode 12
For those of us who are going to go and watch this right now.
This one of my favorite TNG episodes.
Great episode. Makes sense they’d refer to these types of close ended episodes as “bottle” eps.
man, i forgot about that episode. shame on me. Grand TNG rewatch is overdue!
Computer, arch.
Now I want to see this as an actual magic trick.
Sao?
.hack//Sign?
But in reverse
Star Trek?
Reminds me of Code Lyoko.
Computer - load game.
Imagine arguing with someone and they suddenly shout "Computer, quicksave!"
Oh man, what a headache, it feels like I just got shot in the head a bunch of times and then thrown off a cliff.
What were we arguing about?
... Is the intro to New Vegas just Bennie doing this after we shit-talked him and him forgetting to quickload afterwards?