Can you be sued for defaming virtual K-pop stars? South Korea court says yes
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/49220518
They may be fictional characters, but they are voiced by real people, the court says.
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I can't speak to Korean law, but this seems like a real stupid take. Actors are different from their characters. You can't damage a character because they aren't real.
In a lot of places you can be sued for defaming a company brand, though. This seems similar to that.
You can be sued for defamation regardless of the target, as long as you damaged their reputation with false statements. It's a lot easier to prove damages against a company than a regular person though.
This is in line with korean anti-harassment laws. Seems draconian to us but is entirely consistent with what koreans have been living with for over a decade now.
Unless the guy said much worse things that weren't reported, it seems like South Korean defamation laws are draconian.
He's getting in the way of these people making money, so I can see useful idiots chomping at the bit to punish him.
So if they are voiced by AI or silent, we can defamate their picture as much as we want?
For now, for now.
They look stupid, this is just corpo music for Koreans no wonder the courts protected them.
Such trashy boyband slop how does it sell at all, do koreans have no taste at all or are they that brainwashed ?
The same way trashy boyband slop sells everywhere else: they have a different taste than you and judge music differently.
With boy bands like The Backstreet Boys or the Beatles, they don't go for some artsy music. All they need are songs that get stuck in your head and some pretty people singing them to get little girls/boys fawning over them.
And fun fact: their opinion is just as valid as yours. Because there is nothing as subjective as music.
Let people like what they like. If it’s a fad, it’ll pass but until people are legitimately hurting themselves or others over it, just let people enjoy things they enjoy.
It feels really exploitive to me. I worry about anorexia and the psychological damage to those young performers. It's like the 90s in the US, you know?
The virtual stuff might be better tbh
What was unique about the 90s in the US?
No, but it was really bad back then
Every girl on online now does the choreographed k-pop arm moves when they dance like they are landing a plane.
I agree that the comments in question seem like nothing to count as defamation, but actual defamation of virtual bands should count as defamation IMO. They're as fictional as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorillaz is—every character is one-to-one to their real-life voice actors. Though I guess in that case you might be defaming the voice actor behind the character instead.
As long as someone makes money off of it, you can get sued.
Anything that gets in the way of scumbags making money.
Darth Vader sucks egg salad through a hose to eat
Sounds like they represent real people is the reason
K-poop sounds like darth Vader sucking shit-salad through a garden hose
I wish they'd reprint some of the actually "harmful" comments, because that kind of thing is just shitty online discourse. These examples are also pretty obviously targeted at the anons behind the group, not the avatars, but, again, it's no different from saying "I bet the person behind I Cast Fist is a fat and ugly man" - that's not defamation
No, it does not. That's a terrible precedent to make. A character is not the person behind it, a character can live on without the original person behind it and can be interpreted by a different person.
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anyone know what the claim is to even count as defamation?. That to me seems like what should be the crux.
IE if the claim was "X's voice clearly shows he's dying of cancer." I could see that as defamation. On the other hand "X is summoning demons" that clearly would be fan-fiction.
I'm not sure about Korean laws specifically, but they're usually has to be actual damage to win a defamation case. If accusations of summoning demons caused them to lose business, it would count.
Average Uncultured American (they fail to appreciate other cultures):
K-pop is just as bad as most countries' soulless corporate pop music, including from the US.
Define soulless corporate pop music
Music not made by artists doing what they want, but a corporation deciding what is needed to check the boxes listed by market studies.
If anything, it is more soulless than even AI music. Although some people are into it.
I say you like what you like. So long as it don't hurt no one, I'm okay with it.
Fun pop song made by a team of songwriters? Cool.
Solo singer-songwriter writing from their heart and hatred for women & LGBT? GTFO
If it is fun, it is fun. If I like it, I like. Don't care for details. So long as it's not hurtful or offensive, I don't GAFOS
Uninspired design by committee garbage performed by a group assembled by record label executives. If a song has more than 3 songwriting credits it is guaranteed trash.
Well, let us hope none of The Beatles' songs have been written by all members, then. Same goes for any band with more than three members. Cuz apparently many songwriters s bad. Only solo artists. In fact, to be safe, we should just ban group acts. Solo artists only. Anything else is corporate garbage. The best stuff is done by one person alone, not a group of people. Or so says this one person on the internet
There are four Beatles songs with more than 3 songwriter credits and they're all pretty forgettable. All but Flying are either from their early pop days or from Let it Be when they stopped giving a shit right before they broke up the band:
Dig It
Flying
Maggie Mae
Please Mr. Postman
Thanks for helping to demonstrate my point.
Nintendo is Japanese.