Mod of multi large world comms goes on attack against multiple users
Is anything going to be done with Jordanlunds behavior or attacking users who question decisions?
When brought up in power tripping bastards that he was quick to go offensive he began to attack or harrass everyone.
Is this behavior acceptable?
Linked thread is only the most recent example of this behavior from the mod.
Update after lw acted. Guess yes this is acceptable. Disappointing
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52888350Open linkView original on lemmy.sdf.org
Not surprising, he also permabanned me from WorldNews for debunking Zionist misinformation, banned outlets such as Drop Site News and Zeteo, and defended his practice of censoring the emancipatory slogan 'from the river to the sea Palestine will be free' by quoting incredibly racist liberal Zionists
"from the river to the sea" is a call for genocide. Both sides use it.
Palestinians being free is not at all the equivalent to genociding israelis. Although thats the sick way israels think.
For Zionists, Palestine being free is exactly the same as a genocide. Because Zionists being free means committing genocide in Palestine.
It is an emancipatory slogan that calls for an end to apartheid and for equal rights.
Look at the words. It's not that complicated, no matter how much you try to obfuscate.
It's calling for control of all the land "from the river to the sea". Which means murder or displacement of the other side.
And the Israelis use it to mean the same thing, which is something a Zionist would never tell you.
The difference here is that Israel has the power to genocide and is actually committing genocide. That doesn't make anyone else calling for genocide okay. There is no good side in this fight.
You still gonna call me a Zionist? Anyone who doesn't agree with you 100%?
No, it's pretty clear. It means an end to Apartheid and equal rights. That means equal rights for everyone. Right of return across all of historic Palestine. That means coexistence. Not mass killings and mass displacement like what is currently happening
It's a One-state reality already. Like with South Africa, ending the Apartheid did not mean the murder or mass displacement of the white settlers. That mentality of mass murder and mass displacement is entirely the projection of the sick supremacist mindset of settler colonialists.
Zionists have had zero issues calling for the complete expulsion of Palestinians. That's been the case from the origins of Zionism to present day.
The Palestinian slogan is, once again, not a call for genocide. You have five articles to learn more, why don't you take them seriously?
Just stop repeating Zionist misinformation, it's not that difficult, especially when provided sources.
Supporting Palestine shouldn't mean sanewashing Palestine. They're angry. They have reason to be angry, and it's an angry slogan.
It's saying "all this land will be ours", and anyone who is honest can see it isn't about sharing.
It's an emancipatory slogan.
Now you're repeatedly refusing to engage with the sources because you know they prove you wrong
It's saying 'Palestine will be free.'
You're the one falsely attributing that as "all this land will be ours" while also falsely implying that 'ours' would exclude Jewish people. You're the one falsely conflating anti-zionism with antisemitism.
Again, actually taking the sources seriously clarifies all of this.
But why do that, when Serinus is the person who wanted lemmy.world to platform flat world and other dipshit ideas? Just debate the morons while platforming them!
Except it's not, it's a call to end segregation and create one free, secular and democratic nation across the entirety of the original territory of Mandatory Palestine. Apartheid South Africa also segregated native peoples into tiny enclaves as a form of democratic suppression, and that was resolved by creating one free and democratic nation:
That's part of why South Africa was the nation that brought charges of genocide against the Palestinians to the ICC. It's also why outspoken zionists like Elon Musk have recently tried to condemn "racism against white people" in South Africa.
Edit: I will say, you are correct that both sides use it, though Palestinians (and their allies) will always include "Palestine will be free" at the end, and that supports my above statement. However, when the Israeli side uses it, they make clear that the one nation would be Israel, which is specifically a Jewish state to the exclusion of other religions.
Willing to bet Serinus ignores this, or doubles down on Zionist talking points.
Edit: Hey I was right! Even continued to support the genocide denial JordanLund does regularly
"both sides"
JordanBlund is a zionist, and he's pretty opinionated in his modding. Its disturbing to see how he has gotten in as a mod on so many large boards. And I cant prove it but I think he cleans up his tracks.
Weird how there's no admins wanting to comment on this but the only high level mod is trying to say "Palestine will be free" is antisemetic.
The .world team once again proving they are every redditor sterotype.
Still nothing here but they commented on the db0 thread 🙄🙃
Why would they ever actually admit fault? Lemmy.world is filled with power tripping assholes. And if this remove this comment but not Jordan they just reinforce my point.
Magic of transparency, or just only care if it was posted by a lw account 🙃
Holy shit that's horrifying. Great, now the power tripping bot controlled by a Zionist is now controlled by a racist Zionist with no self reflection.
No need to add insults, the message is already clear without them
Fair enough, I'll remove them
It's also false. I'll reply to that one.
I thought I was clear about that with the link to the community team and the fact that the screenshot itself is real.
I'm not @[email protected] .
I don't have the power to grant anyone admin rights. You can see who our community team is here: https://fedihosting.foundation/lw-team/#org-chart
And it's pretty rude to sit in our chat desperate for excerpts, and then have no idea what you're talking about when you "find" something. I'd care more about leaks if I felt we had something to hide, but it's still pretty damn rude. We shouldn't have to be super careful about what we say in chat, and we're not.
JordanLund and JonsJava are also different people. @JonsJava and I have had our differences. We're not one clique moving in lockstep, even if we don't broadcast our differences publicly.
I do think nearly any mod of a large community is going to get some blowback if they enforce any rules at all. I don't agree with everything our mods do, but I do think overall they're a pretty solid team.
Look at the org chart.
https://fedihosting.foundation/lw-team/#org-chart
I, me, Serinus didn't grant anyone admin rights. I don't have the power to do so. I encouraged him to use the admin bot he already had access to.
How long should users expect to wait until an actual acknowledgement it's being investigated or an eta on when an investigation would end?
Or should we all just expect this to also be ignored like the announcement to flat earthers should be treated equally?
we're still working on this, you can find our update here: https://lemmy.world/post/36621226
I'm glad you acknowledged it but still does not answer the part of how long users should expect to be even given a time line or that it's even been seen.
Especially when there's another high level lw person here acting similarly to the mod in question.
Then there's the fact that there were multiple admins commenting in the thread linked here from another user to db0.
i expect that we get the consequences sorted out before the end of this week.
would you mind adding some context to this?
Not for this issue but when issues are brought up in general in the support comm.
Any of https://lemmy.world/u/Serinus comments in this very post.
thanks for flagging this, we'll have to do some research on this phrase. I don't know the exact details of its usage yet.
Flagging the lack of communication or the other mod acting just like JL?
jordan is also saying that "from the river to the sea" is a call for genocide? if so, please provide a reference
Good luck with the end of the review
I know they're volunteers but honestly wonder if they meant end of a different week
The week when lemmy.world goes under as the admins stopped giving any fucks and forgot to pay for their server bills.
I blocked the power trippin community because it’s always the same whiny shit where people are not engaging respectfully and get moderated.
Grow up. I’ve never had a problem with moderation on Lemmy, but if I did, I’d find another community that accepted ‘the way I communicate’ or whatever.
Most recent example where a power tripping decision was reverted: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52848694
Edit: if you open the linked thread, you'll even see that the post in question was restored: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52888350/21328372
Network effect creates centralization on one community per topic.
![email protected] is by far the most active community on the topic with 12.8k monthly active users. The second most active one is ![email protected] with 3.7k monthly active users.
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52888350/21260663
just read their replies and think if it's someone who should be modding anything.
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I'm guessing it's an alt.
I don't
FYI, the attitude "I haven't personally experienced it, so it either doesn't exist or I don't care", whether online or off is considered extremely immature and selfish by most people.