And like, even if it was dinosaurs, Dirt is also (partially) made from decayed animals. And, oversimplifying, that dirt becomes plants.
And that's all fine for vegans, because it doesn't involve exploitation of animals. Like, if you needed to raise and kill animals to use their corpses to grow plants, that'd be animal exploitation.
you are most definitely exploiting animals in the scenario you described. do you think i need to build a water table in order to exploit it for a well?
You think any animal would choose this "safety" for beeing killed after a max of 1/10 of their lifespan? I wont even start about the living conditions most animals are in. For sea animals also nothing of your arguments holds true and we kill a fuckton of those.
You know its one thing to contribute to suffering because change is hard. Pretending this is something symbiotic is ridicoulus though.
You think any animal would choose this “safety” for beeing killed after a max of 1/10 of their lifespan?
i have yet to find proof that nonhuman animals understand personal mortality, so they wouldn't even be able to understand the choice you are presenting.
i aggre with you if you're talkin about mass capitalism version of veganism,
but the original activist movement of veganism, which is more direct and utopic, is in fact against vehicles itself, cos the production of everything involved causes harm to animals environment.
Definitely should forsake technology and get back where we belong. Lions and dolphins have to rough it out, why are we acting like we have the right to just not die of sepsis?
A prey animal will try to fight off its predators, is this wrong of the prey animal? Should the prey animal lie down and accept its fate, because it doesn't have the right to not get eaten? Why do you think nature has a "correct" state and that deviating from this is bad?
i aggre with you if you're talkin about mass capitalism version of veganism,
but the original activist movement of veganism, which is more direct and utopic, is in fact against vehicles itself, cos the production of everything involved causes harm to animals environment.
Its almost entirely made from plants
And like, even if it was dinosaurs, Dirt is also (partially) made from decayed animals. And, oversimplifying, that dirt becomes plants.
And that's all fine for vegans, because it doesn't involve exploitation of animals. Like, if you needed to raise and kill animals to use their corpses to grow plants, that'd be animal exploitation.
Good thing yeast is technically not an animal.
Fungi is closer related to animals than plants.
So in your mind that makes fungi capable of feeling just like animals?
When I eat magic mushrooms, I feel like fungi are capable of feeling all kinds of weird shit tbh
https://www.treehugger.com/do-plants-have-feelings-science-explainer-5546944
Old news for me. Whats your argument here?
Yeah, creepy right? Just wanted to note we eat the fruit of the fungi. The mycelium would be the "living" part.
All water was at some point Dino piss. guess vegans can't drink
there's no veganism under capitalism
"nO eThIcAl cOnSuMpTiOn UnDeR cApItAlIsM"
This is quite hard to read
Probably because its a garbage take
Tell that to Beyond Meat
i will. where can i find them?
Most supermarkets
Also, KFC, apparently...
never seen them where i live
c/whoosh
you are most definitely exploiting animals in the scenario you described. do you think i need to build a water table in order to exploit it for a well?
Screw it, eating plants is animal abuse. Just photosynthesize
i didn't say it's abuse. i said it's exploitation. everyone opposes abuse. exploitation is not inherently abusive.
You are kidding yourself if you think what we do with animals is anything but abusive.
food, protection from predators, protection from the elemnts, and veterinary care is not abusive. i would describe it as "symbiotic".
You think any animal would choose this "safety" for beeing killed after a max of 1/10 of their lifespan? I wont even start about the living conditions most animals are in. For sea animals also nothing of your arguments holds true and we kill a fuckton of those.
You know its one thing to contribute to suffering because change is hard. Pretending this is something symbiotic is ridicoulus though.
this is literally an appeal to ridicule, not a refutation.
i don't know of any animal killed at 1/10 of their lifespan.
i have yet to find proof that nonhuman animals understand personal mortality, so they wouldn't even be able to understand the choice you are presenting.
no vegan diet
no vegan powers
One of Thomas Jane's greatest roles alongside The Punisher.
Petrol isn't made of dinos it's made of is plankton
"bio diesel" contains animal fat, 1 million tons each year in the EU alone.
I think it's algae, not dinosaurs
Mostly algae, a splash of dinosaurs.
Just a sprinkle of dino
i aggre with you if you're talkin about mass capitalism version of veganism, but the original activist movement of veganism, which is more direct and utopic, is in fact against vehicles itself, cos the production of everything involved causes harm to animals environment.
I'm down for fuckcars veganism
Yeah, these days, many people become vegan to combat climate change and are opposed to fossil fuels even before that...
Definitely should forsake technology and get back where we belong. Lions and dolphins have to rough it out, why are we acting like we have the right to just not die of sepsis?
A prey animal will try to fight off its predators, is this wrong of the prey animal? Should the prey animal lie down and accept its fate, because it doesn't have the right to not get eaten? Why do you think nature has a "correct" state and that deviating from this is bad?
Oil is made from plants that died back when there was no bacteria to break down those plants once they died.
We now have that bacteria, so we won’t ever have more oil.
i aggre with you if you're talkin about mass capitalism version of veganism, but the original activist movement of veganism, which is more direct and utopic, is in fact against vehicles itself, cos the production of everything involved causes harm to animals environment.
Hitler was a vegan
thats when he went too far