On Sunday, I walked among those who want me gone from Australia
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Don’t post paywalled articles without archive links pls
Avoid the paywall: https://web.archive.org/web/20250901051736/https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/on-sunday-i-walked-among-those-who-want-me-gone-from-australia-20250901-p5mre6.html
"I walked among those who want me gone from Australia"
No, they just want to temporarily stop letting more people into Australia until we can house and provide for the people we currently have, yourself included.
Why are so many people having a hard time understanding this?
What if I told you we could feed and house everyone now, the rich just don't want to. If that's what these people really cared about, they would have been marching against the stage 3 tax cuts. They're racist nazis and can all bugger off.
The stage 3 cuts that meant more lower income earners are better off? Why would they protest those?
Keep calling everyone Nazis, it worked out well for the democrats. I’m sure it’ll work out well for you too.
Thanks for confirming you're a fucking idiot. Stage 3 literally did nothing for low income earners.
And they're problem is they fell for disingenuous nazi fucktards like yourself, who think they're smart by reading from the nazi troll handbook.
There is no middle ground, just horrible, dumb little shits like you, that are stupid enough to keep trying to pull everything to the right. Hope that taste of billionaire cock in your mouth keeps you happy when it's your turn for them to grind you up, because you're no longer useful to them.
Stage 3 did nothing for low income earners? It gave them tax cuts you pencil.
Seek help.
No one said that immigrants caused the housing crisis. You’re arguing against something no one is saying.
Immigration is making the housing crisis worse and worse every single day.
Do you understand the difference?
We want immigration to be temporarily paused until we can fix the crises, get policies and things in place so it doesn’t happen again, and then we can unpause immigration. How does that make me a “fucking bigot” exactly?
@FreedomAdvocate
"Immigration is solving the housing crisis better and better every single day." FTFY
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/sep/10/slashing-migration-would-actually-lead-to-higher-house-prices-in-australia-heres-why
If you believe that you’re way too far gone.
The entire reason that they say that is because there will be “less workers to build houses” lol. It’s based on the ridiculous and false idea that all these immigrants we’re bringing in are building houses, which they aren’t because we’ve brought them in in record numbers yet houses aren’t being built at record numbers, are they?
Also you ignored all this from the article didn’t you? Why is that?
@FreedomAdvocate
Sorry, can you point out the part of the article where it says that 'there will be “less workers to build houses” lol'. Your reading comprehension is as bad as your grasp of economics. Yes wages would be higher but inflation would negate any benefits to the workers.
Your claim that migrants worsen the housing crisis is not based on evidence, because the actual evidence says the opposite is true. And given the way you double down in spite of that seems a lot like it's a made-up justification for your xenophobia. Walks like a bigot, quacks like a bigot.
Sure, right here:
I honestly dont understand how anyone can deny that increasing demand without accordingly increasing supply, which we factually are not, hurts availability and affordability. Like, this is supply and demand 101. It’s one of the most basic concepts in business, and the entire world.
Keep throwing around insults because you can’t actually have a good discussion, it definitely makes you look smart.
@FreedomAdvocate
So somehow you believe the bit where decreased supply in the labour market leads to higher wages, but not that it means that there is a, you know, decrease in the number of workers? Much smart, very genius.
Tell me more about your economics insights that show their modeling is wrong. We all stand to learn here, given that your PhD obviously comes from the University of Vibes, Man.
Some people at the pro-Palestine rally’s shouted death to Australia, etc - does that mean everyone there thinks that?
The overwhelming majority of people there were there because they demand that our government does the most obvious, easy, and impactful thing that they can do to try and address the housing crisis and the cost of living crisis - pause immigration. They don’t want all immigrants kicked out. They don’t want to round them up and kill them. They want a temporary pause on immigration until we can get everything under some semblance of control.
There are other immigration based issues too, such as rate of crime and lack of assimilation, and those are very real too, but they are secondary to the immigration numbers being unsustainable.
The organisers of the Australia ones weren’t neo Nazis.
The marches were organised by different people in every state.
Also that “journalism” is typical garbage. “Links between” based on a few words on a single point on a website lol
That’s the line racist people love to go with.
It falls apart when you suggest spending a ton of cash on social welfare programs to help those locals and get told “well, no actually”.
Ah so you’re just going to pretend that the very real reason is a fake used by racists, simply because you have no actual reason to disagree with it and because it’s not actually racist. Gotcha.
Well no actually.
I’d say that whenever a party proposes such measures they never get voted in to power.
It’s almost like people fall for the mainstream media’s propaganda, right? Like, oh I don’t know, increasing demand for housing while not increasing supply having no impact on availability? Or more demand doesn’t drive prices up? Or these marches and everyone at them being neo-nazi racists rather than people who want our government to actually fix these problems?
No, no, I’m sure the mainstream government controlled media that you guys are agreeing with are right. They’re the good guys.
I wish that was all that it was, a lot of those marches were pretty heavily coopted by some incredibly racist people though and they're pretty tarnished as a result. The neo Nazis showing up in force sorta drove that point home.
I think that our immigration rate is too high, but those protests in particular didn't really contain themselves to just that issue.
Small correction. They weren’t co-opted, they were organised by some incredibly racist people: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-28/who-is-behind-march-for-australia-anti-immigration-rallies/105657548
The “neo Nazis” were told to fuck off in most of the marches, actually. No one wanted them there. I believe it was only the Sydney one that let one of them speak, and the organisers were rightly derided for doing so.
Just because some bad people try to co-opt something it doesn’t mean that they were bad people protests. The overwhelming majority of people there were there for the stated reasons, none of which were racist or “neo nazi”.
That’s not how it works when the march isn’t for Nazis and wasn’t about Nazi policies. If Nazis tag along and try to co-opt it then unless they’re breaking any laws there’s nothing you can do other then ask them to leave.
Btw how many Nazis does it take jumping into a march that isn’t about them and their policies before everyone magically turns into a Nazi? 1? 5? Is it a fixed number or a percentage? What other terrible groups does this apply to? Hamas supporters? Pedos?
@FreedomAdvocate Bullshit. The organisers were nazis, everyone who went along was a fucking nazi.
Because its the same as blaming immigrants for Aldi running out of some Wednesday special, one thing has nothing to do with the other, so suspicion then falls to racism being the real motivation because no sane person blames the housing shortage on immigrants.
It's a managed, restricted supply thats the issue, compounded by dipshit voters reelecting the asshat polticans who cause it, rather then giving politcans who want to solve it a go eg The Greens.
We punish the homeless, protect the investor and blame the immigrants, talk about ass backwards.
https://australiainstitute.org.au/post/migrants-are-not-to-blame-for-soaring-house-prices/
So bringing in even 1000 more people every day, who need places to live, gas nothing to do with making housing availability worse?
So increasing demand while keeping supply the same, when there is a massive supply shortage, has no effect on availability?
What caused the problem isn’t the issue now. Why can none of you get this simple thing through your head?
If the bath is overflowing you turn off the tap.
Even a moment's critical thinking and investigation would inform you that 1,000 per day number has been widely debunked.
lol the ABS confirmed themselves that the NOM last fin year was >1200 per day. The year before it was ~1500 a day. You think it’s suddenly dropped down to <1000 while Labor have been stacking electorates with immigrants?
Also you missed the point and didn’t answer the question. Does increasing demand while not increasing supply affect availability and affordability?
Mostly the nazi co-opting of marches
This happened at like 1 of the marches the other day, they were told to fuck off from all the others.