Meh. Last time I visited it was just another overcrowded tourist trap full of generic souvenir stores and storefronts full of the same "local goods" found in every tourist attraction in the country, only instead of vehicle exhaust the main street smelled like manure and stale fry oil. The fort was neat, I guess, and the fudge was good (I mean, it's fudge), but overall it was pretty underwhelming.
Without all the tourists it would probably be a pretty nice place.
I went during off season with a group of friends and had the exact same experience. There were times we didn't see anyone. Most people we saw were in the early mornings, those stopping by to shop and such.
That sounds ideal. I was with a family including small children, which meant we walked everywhere, and slowly. The kids easily grew bored with the historical stuff, which necessarily meant I couldn't really enjoy it myself. It was not ideal.
Same. After moving to Michigan I saw Mackinac Island in every list of things to do in the state and so far it has been one of the most borings one
I love the UP and sleeping bear dunes (and the whole area around Traverse City) but the island just felt as a very generic tourist trap with horses and for some reason they think it's the only place to get fudge 🤷
Moved from South Africa to the Netherlands about 2 years ago, I have gotten so used to the infrastructure I have a mild panic attack any time i think about how on earth I would get from a hotel to a super market if I go back to visit Cape Capetown South Africa.
I have gone from desperately fighting that I need the best car and I should be able to speed all I want to being happy to just hop on my bike and cycle to work never caring if there will be parking.
This country may as well be a fever dream and some day soon I will wake up back home.
To be fair, that's a stupid, pointless hard mode, regardless of having a car or not. If your city is designed correctly, it should be more like taking a day worth of groceries 200m.
Economies of scale and specialization of shops mean that even if you get your noodles and tomatoes from the corner store each afternoon, you're still going to want to go someplace else to stock up on 40lb sacks of basmati and chickpeas. And maybe you want to visit the farmer's market on the weekend, which cannot be on everyone's streetcorner.
I use paniers, and every 2-3 years I get my bike trailer out of the closet. I can carry 90 litres in my panniers and not even notice they're there.
I walk past it on my afternoon walk, get my groceries for the day and that is it. Why would I bother storing that much crap? This way I get fresh food basically every day.
Most trips I don't use the cart, I also just do short walks on a semi daily basis for most things. I was just pointing out it's still possible to do big trips without a car. I mainly cart for the bulky/heavy items. Bags of rice, paper towels, cat litter, etc. Or if I'm doing a bigger trip to a specialty market across town like an Asian grocer.
Meh. Last time I visited it was just another overcrowded tourist trap full of generic souvenir stores and storefronts full of the same "local goods" found in every tourist attraction in the country, only instead of vehicle exhaust the main street smelled like manure and stale fry oil. The fort was neat, I guess, and the fudge was good (I mean, it's fudge), but overall it was pretty underwhelming.
Without all the tourists it would probably be a pretty nice place.
I went during off season with a group of friends and had the exact same experience. There were times we didn't see anyone. Most people we saw were in the early mornings, those stopping by to shop and such.
That sounds ideal. I was with a family including small children, which meant we walked everywhere, and slowly. The kids easily grew bored with the historical stuff, which necessarily meant I couldn't really enjoy it myself. It was not ideal.
Same. After moving to Michigan I saw Mackinac Island in every list of things to do in the state and so far it has been one of the most borings one
I love the UP and sleeping bear dunes (and the whole area around Traverse City) but the island just felt as a very generic tourist trap with horses and for some reason they think it's the only place to get fudge 🤷
Beautiful!
You forgot trees. Lots of trees for lots of shade.
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So few! How about Belgorod in 80-ies:
went to Amsterdam a while back. the infrastructure there is dreamy. if I could choose where to live it'd be there
Moved from South Africa to the Netherlands about 2 years ago, I have gotten so used to the infrastructure I have a mild panic attack any time i think about how on earth I would get from a hotel to a super market if I go back to visit Cape Capetown South Africa.
I have gone from desperately fighting that I need the best car and I should be able to speed all I want to being happy to just hop on my bike and cycle to work never caring if there will be parking.
This country may as well be a fever dream and some day soon I will wake up back home.
please don't wake up I want the chance to live there at some point in my life before everything in your dream reality is erased from existence 😭
If you need to know anything about getting here feel free to message me :P
Why the fuck would pepe be outside? Fake and gay
Carless utopias are based, redpilled even, I would say
God damnit the youth are speaking in tongues again.
*orange pilled.
Huh, I would've thought the pill would be green.
Whenever I see a pepe in the wild, I assume it's about something racist.
Hey, leave the mini alone. Of all the cars, that one's one of the best for cities
Of all the cancers, breast cancer has the best 5-year survival rate.
well yeah. I didn't say it's good. You know, lesser evil and all that
All cars are cars. Even the smallest ones fuck up cities because it means somebody's building parking spaces for them.
There's a bunch of islands like that in sweden, mostly gothenburg/stockholm, and it's amazing to go there by the public transport ferries :)
and of course they're ungodly expensive to live in because everyone wants to live there.
Pepeopolis
Perfect depiction of downtown Vancouver.
Hooded pepe is being very dangerous to other pedestrians by using his skateboard on the sidewalk instead of the wide bike path.
For people saying that this is unfair to drivers, If all of this was road there would be traffic too.
based
Boy, I sure love having to make multiple trips to the grocery store every week since I can't carry everything I need in one go.
I walk to the grocery store with my foldable cart 🤷♀️
Imagine being so helpless you can't figure out how to get a week of groceries 2km to your home without a car.
To be fair, that's a stupid, pointless hard mode, regardless of having a car or not. If your city is designed correctly, it should be more like taking a day worth of groceries 200m.
Economies of scale and specialization of shops mean that even if you get your noodles and tomatoes from the corner store each afternoon, you're still going to want to go someplace else to stock up on 40lb sacks of basmati and chickpeas. And maybe you want to visit the farmer's market on the weekend, which cannot be on everyone's streetcorner.
I use paniers, and every 2-3 years I get my bike trailer out of the closet. I can carry 90 litres in my panniers and not even notice they're there.
I walk past it on my afternoon walk, get my groceries for the day and that is it. Why would I bother storing that much crap? This way I get fresh food basically every day.
Most trips I don't use the cart, I also just do short walks on a semi daily basis for most things. I was just pointing out it's still possible to do big trips without a car. I mainly cart for the bulky/heavy items. Bags of rice, paper towels, cat litter, etc. Or if I'm doing a bigger trip to a specialty market across town like an Asian grocer.
Walkable city doesn't mean no cars allowed
Me too, it's great exercise and it's only a few minutes away!
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