Trump administration accuses United Kingdom of failing to uphold human rights
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/34376277
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Pot-kettle assholes.
Pretty bold statement coming from the mouth of fascist America.
Every accusation is an admission.
You know just because a fascist says something doesn't make it untrue right? Like always double check what they say but them saying it doesn't make it untrue. The UK is following so much closer behind the US than some people want to admit. Hell half of Europe is still an elections away from ending up with a far right candidate. Now that Trump has been president for a bit I wonder how much of that immediate reaction you saw with Germany will continue.
I didn't say it was untrue.
If anything the UK is miles ahead when it comes to fascism
I would say the are farther ahead in the state controll aspect at the very least.
We recently had the largest protest in American History
Meanwhile Britain declared organized protests a form of terrorism.
The Revolutionary War was based af
They did the same with Germany. The US is not able to conduct independent evaluations anymore, as the authorities are more and more driven my political decisions. This makes the content of the evaluations irrelevant, their only purpose now is to use them as political instruments.
I mean thats true but this is one of the few times they are right. UK and Germany as well are really failing at upholding human rights.
Compared to the US? You are insane if you believe that.
I mean, is the US really the metric you want to use? If anyone is even slightly better, even fractionally, than the US it means they're doing fine? Seems like too low a bar to me.
As this arcticle is about the US administration condemning the human rights situation in the UK I think it is the metric that makes the most sense here.
Saying "yeah the US administration may be fascists and are conducting this assessment to push right extreme parties in Europe, but that doesn't matter because they are right" is a very dangerous position in my opinion.
Edit: Oh what a coincidence https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/13/world/europe/jd-vance-nigel-farage-reform-uk.html
it's not that it doesn't matter, and no one here holds that position. it's that "UK is fascist" is not any less true just because it's the fascist US that said it
I'm American, living in the UK, and have recently been to the US. The US is visibly fascist. The UK isn't, despite the government's heavy-handed, imbecilic ban on Palestine Action, and their even stupider efforts to ban encryption. Starting with Tony Blair, Labour has had a strong authoritarian faction, exemplified by the dire Yvette Cooper, but so far they haven't succeeded in turning the whole country to shit.
No, one should not trust the US by default, but one also shouldn't dismiss the conclusion just because the US is one of the ones who came to it.
No one said "Compared to the US." You added that part yourself.
It can be simultaneously true that "The UK and Germany still have a better human rights record than the US" and "The UK and Germany are really failing at upholding human rights."
People in the UK are being arrested for saying that the genocide in Gaza is bad. People in the UK have to submit their ID or a face scan just to log in to Discord or Spotify. Trans rights are being systematically eradicated. Are you going to tell me that those are all good things as far as human rights goes?
The worst part about the dire state of human rights in the US is that it lets everyone else get away with shit like this while saying "Hey, at least we're not those guys." The last thing you should be doing is supporting that kind of excuse.
No you are understanding me wrong. I asked "compared to the US" as this is an article about the US condemning the human rights situation in UK. I think it is dangerous to hop on the train while Shady Vance is meeting with Nigel Farage, it is clear that this is a politically motivated move. People should talk about this right now to support the right extremists in the UK.
I am in no way saying the situation in UK is good, I just think we should be careful when to give attention to what because of who is saying something.
Yeah, when Trump and his mob talk about "freedom of speech," what they mean is forcing the media to give more airtime to shits like Farage. When Trump says "freedom," he means coercion.
This you? Because I really can't see how you justify inventing something that someone else didn't remotely claim, and then calling them insane for believing the words you put in their mouth.
Yeah, you're still incapable of understanding that you're acting like an asshole here, and I'm done trying to teach you basic communication skills.
Is this like Alabama saying they’re not so bad, because there’s always Mississippi?
We look up to you guys to be the Massachusetts
Germans murdered my family in the Nazi genocide. Now Germany is targeting me for protesting Israel’s Holocaust in Gaza.
Coming from Trump, it's more of a "They can do it, so why can't we do it?" fascist whining. But West Germany remained a fascist enclave from the 1950s straight up until the 1980s. And fascists continue to riddle the police, the media, and the financial sectors to this day.
It's a pot calling the kettle Nazi. But it isn't wrong.
Not for suppressing pro-Palestinian protests: for considering using their anti-Nazi laws to ban AfD.
I expect they're going to do this to every country that doesn't fall in line. The sides for WW3 are being picked
Trump's doing all he can to help his fellow fascists. For example, by complaining about German anti-Nazi laws that could (and should) be applied to AfD.
That is a bold statement coming from an administration who is rounding up people to be put in prisons under terrible conditions
oh no, those prisons don't have conditions
"we towed it outside the environment"
I mean, that's sort of the joke. Just ICE Spiderman pointing at MET Spiderman.
Starmer's out there doing Liberal Fascism to satisfy a bunch of Zionists who won't be happy until Nigel Farage has his head on a pike. Not unlike how Biden, Hochul, and Adams handled the Columbia student protests.
Trump gets in a few face punches because his liberal opposition are too busy fishing in their pants for AIPAC donations.
Less prison, more camp for concentrating abductees.
Very pot and kettle
The problem is that we don't have kettles in the US. And there's no reason for the pot to call the 'microwave you use on your water' black.
Bold coming from pedophile fascists...
Every time I see Vance, I want to piss on his face
How do you expect me to punch him after that?
With piss fist for 3x damage
New One Punch Man ultimate attack!
he might like that.
That's horrible. With all that piss on his face, when I shit on it, it won't stick.
No self-awareness of any kind
"I'm over here committing human rights violations left and right and you assholes haven't lifted a finger to try and stop me!"
The UK is officially too evil for Trump
The complaint is that they're not doing enough forced platforming of fascists.
No it's that they banned organized protesting and require ridiculous things like ID for online and licenses for watching TV
"Also Prince Andrew was a personal friend of Epstein!"
Broken clock is right twice a day.
You mean when the hand is pointing backwards towards themselves? Otherwise I'm not following this adage. 😅
Like, you see the news coming out of the UK right? It's not as bad as Trump but it's still awful.
No the shit I'm hearing from the UK makes Trump seem tolerable
No the us is failing to uphold human rights sure thats true but so is the UK. Hypocrisy doesn't make the statement "the United Kingdom is failing to uphold human rights" untrue.