South Park updated their profile photo in response to Kristi Noem calling them "sexist" for criticizing her appearance.
Kristi Noem: “It never ends, but it’s so lazy, to make fun of women and how they look. Only the liberals and the extremists do that. If they wanted to criticize my job, go ahead and do that. But clearly they can’t. They pick something petty like that."
Originally Posted By u/kenistod At 2025-08-08 03:49:56 PM | Source
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Oh lol, they will just get cancelled. You know, the thing that conservatives have been projecting about the last several years.
And they'll take that cancelation straight to the bank, because they just got renewed before the season kicked off.
Yup. The network will be bought before long, just watch.
Yeah that was the old feds. The new feds are operating like a mafia, so they will 100% go after at least one high profile person to make an example out of and take all their shit as a warning to the others. Kinda like Putin and his oligarchs. My guess has been Mark Cuban would be the example, but perhaps Matt and Trey would also work
Paramount pays them "fuck you" money. They got 1.5b just for the streaming rights.
Brad Lander was arrested, and Melissa and Mark Hortman were murdered.
My biggest problem with her appearance is when she appears to be shooting a fucking puppy.
That part where she talks about doing what has to be done is directly from her auto biography... where she talks about shooting her puppy and goat.
My memory is bad but I recall her kids getting home from school right after she shot the goat.
If they hadn't gotten home she was going to piss in the fish tank too.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/apr/26/trump-kristi-noem-shot-dog-and-goat-book
Bitch is unhinged and they were kind to her
If you stop the episode 2 seconds before the end, you can pretend that one dog got away.
You will get to a point in the near future when a Hispanic dog walker will be taken by ICE mid walk and they will leave people dogs loose on the side of the road. They won't care, people's dogs will be dead, and it will get more air time on the news stations than the Hispanic American citizen child with cancer that was removed from the country with no medication.
Your country is fucked.
? There's been dogs being forcibly abandoned already due to ICE deportations. Animals left in homes. What you're describing has already happened
Generous of you to assume the dogs would get left loose instead of shot.
I wouldn't be surprised but it might be a bit too far to think they would shoot dogs just because they were being walked by a dog walker that was Hispanic.
Actually it’s worse than that - police shoot thousands of dogs every year, often for no other reason than because they can get away with it.
https://www.courthousenews.com/dog-shootings-are-hidden-side-of-us-police-violence-epidemic/
Conservatism is an ideology that wants the in-group protected by the laws but not bound by them, and the out-group bound by laws but not protected by them.
As I remember first hearing it, "rules for thee but not for me"
Guess she forgot how much hate Michelle Obama got from the Rupublicunts over her looks. But I guess Noem doesn’t consider Michelle Obama to be a woman to begin with.
That wordless response was excellent.
Notice how quick they are to pull the idpol bs out when they're the targets, I know it's been said before but I don't care, every accusation is an admission when it comes to the MAGA/GOP constituency.
Such duality.
She didn't say anything about shooting the dogs because she probably doesn't realize its a parody and instead thinks of it as an accurate representation.
Oh no, they can and did do plenty of that
You think she actually watched the episode to know that?
yeah they famously never criticize men for how they look
Michael Jackson doesn't count cuz he's trans or something. -conservatives probably
Or how often they say thank you.
Two things:
This lady must not know what South Park is.
👁👄👁 wat?
It's like fucking wordsalad everytime a MAGA-person is talking. This genuinely feels like a bait comment.
Btw, you are the extremist, sweetie. I also remember how the MAGA crowd made a ton of weird claims against Hillary Clinton during the 2016 election. Took out of context clips where she made weird faces and made conspiracies about her being a robot or a reptile or that she was having a stroke and was therefore unfit to lead the country. So many embarrassing and awkward pics and clips of her on the internet. Lots of comments about how it made sense why Bill cheated when he had to look at "that" everyday. But I guess it's okay when your side does it, right? Man, how childish and retarded politics have become. I miss when the grown ups were in charge.
Do you remember "Michelle Obamamust be a man because she has wide shoulders"?
Oh yes, I knew a lady who was convinced that Michelle was a man and shared pictures of her crotch area where the fabric was crinkling. Supposedly that was her bulge.
Same lady also fell for the holocaust denial after seeing a ww2 timeline with clearly edited dates on it. I forget the exact significance of the dates and how they "proved" the holocaust never happened but I stopped speaking with her after that shit.
I generally don't mind when people are a bit nutty or when they hold opinions I disagree with, but I have my limits, lol. Conspiracy theorists are were I often draw the line and very harshly. I don't like when people start bending reality and live in delusions.
They still do 'Michelle is a man' stories as of today. The latest one I've seen is that Michelle Obama is trans, and was a man when they started dating.
Its insane the amount of straight fiction the conservatives come up with to try and tar anyone an inch to the left of them, when they've such an abundance of real conspiracies in their own ranks. Mental illness.
Photos and debunking here: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/photo-michelle-obama-trans-conspiracy-theory/
Only the liberals and extremists do that, lol. Well, she's not wrong, their cult does in fact resort to such low-brow humor. Their cult leader/prophet engages in it regularly, in fact
Once again demonstrating that every accusation is an admission when it's coming from them.
Also I like how she says they can't criticize her actual work despite ceaseless criticism for the past half year.
South Park does not often criticize people for how they look. They usually criticize people for how they made themselves look.
The hardest they ever roasted someone's appearance was Sarah jessica Parker, and they went way harder on gnome.
Mad they mocked her looks but not the her platform?
Her shooting a dog every scene?
Mmmmmkay
They are not criticising women, they're criticising Kristi Noem.
LOL, they are definitely not liberals.
They've said before that, if you had to label them, the most accurate label would probably be libertarian. Which is pretty par for the course for the criticize/mock everyone and play on the shock and disgust of others for a laugh crowd, which was definitely true to a great degree in the early seasons (I say that with love for Trey and Matt).
Of course that was 20 years ago, and people change. But if I had to guess, I bet they would say that their politics have remained largely unchanged even as the show has transformed... well, transformed, a bit. I was going to say "matured" but that definitely seems wrong. We're still talking about small dick jokes and gory murder of animals which has a long proud tradition in South Park.
Anyway, any appearance to a leftward shift is largely just the rightward shift of American politics and those in power while they remain in place. No offense intended to them, but I can't imagine decades of success in media production, specifically by saying "fuck you" to everyone, has made them LESS libertarian. It's a trope for a reason.
Yeah, they've stayed where they were while everyone around them goosestepped to the right, and now accuse them of being leftists.
Can't wait for people to start calling them woke. 🤦♂️
Libertarians are liberals that want to make slavery legal again
I thought it was paedophilia.
the general stance of the statesian libertarian party is they want do meth, weed and fent, not pay taxes, tank the economy by going on the gold standard, fuck children, and own people (not realizing that they will be the people who will be fucked as children and owned, or more likely their children and grandchildren will be) but hey you can go to their conventions and be entertained by the lunacy
Basically neofeudalism
It comes as a package
Slavery is already legal, and liberals are okay with it. Reread the 13th amendment. Name one liberal supreme court justice in history that would rule against the constitutionality of the 13th amendment's wording.
I think if they had to choose, they'd choose libertarian. But there was a term a while back called, South Park Republicans.
Right wing "libertarians" are a subset of conservatives which are, in theory, a subset of liberalism ideologically.
The terms for them already exist, and they're not special snowflakes.
It is supposed to be on paper but in practice most libertarians have the social values of a moderate conservative.
Good. Her crazy amount of gender affirming care is not a woman issue. Pictured here is the puppy she brags about shooting. After she murdered this puppy she then shot her pet goat.
It may be very common these days that people alter their appearance through means of plastic surgery and what not. But it's perfectly fair to criticize this behavior. Of course South Park will grab any noticable feature and go over the top with it, so you shooting your puppy becomes you shooting puppies all the time, and you looking like a woman made of plastic becomes your face collapsing regularly.
Why is it ok to criticize "this behaviour"? How is plastic surgery anyones business but the one getting it??
You sure as shit dont have to hand it to matt stone and trey parker...
Maybe we're all too sensitive? Just spit balling here, maybe it's okay to criticize this aspect of Kristy Noam's behavior. It would not be okay to criticize someone who isn't a public figure like her for "this behavior" but she is a public figure and an extremist one.
Treating her the same as other people who get a lot of non-restorative plastic surgery isn't right because she isn't like them. She's a deeply racist public figure who's needlessly killed multiple animals who's also have obviously had a lot of cosmetic surgery. She doesn't represent everyone who's had plastic surgery.
No, her being extremist doesn't make it ok to be sexist towards her. Like you should be able to criticise Caitlyn Jenner without being transphobic. Or Milo Yiannopoulos without being homophobic.
But making fun of her getting such plastic surgery targets everyone who gets them. Just like making fun of someone for being fat targets every fat person, like calling someone gay as an insults is insulting towards every gay person. I'd argue her being a nazi makes it even less ok since of all the things you could be focusing on you're focusing on something that she fully in her right to do. It makes everything else you say easily dismissable and opens you up to accusation of sexism, because it is sexist to shame and try to humiliate a woman because of how she presents herself in public.
Just like how she is now brushing past all the other criticism south park has of her and focuses on the sexist aspect of her portrayal.
This has nothing to do with trans people. The reason someone gets plastic surgery is what people are free to judge. If you were her, would you get plastic surgery? If you say no that doesnt mean you are generalizing or stereotyping all people that have plastic surgery done.
I dont agree that south park was making fun of all people with plastic surgery either, watch the episode, its very exclusively and personally about Kristi Noem.
The time to pay soft-ball is long gone.
I'd argue criticising someones looks or how they choose to present themselves is the softest ball there is.
South park is meant to provoke, and that it did, so mission accomplished. Now Kristi Noem is in the news in a negative light, because she's a bad person. Making fun of her looks is just to get a reaction out of her because its so "offensive".
The plastic surgery is every tax payers business because we are most likely paying for it.
No you are paying her salary. How much you pay is everyones business, but once the money is hers she can spend it as she sees fit. It's hers.
Look up how over budget ice is. lol you know she is using slush funds for this shit.
Fine then criticise that, but making fun of how someone chooses to present themselves is still not ok.
Frankly I think it shows superficiality, a lack of wisdom and an obsession with a fabricated unnatural ideal of what a woman should look like. Of course they can do as they please, but I am free to criticize them for it. Young perfectly beautiful people are putting their bodies in harms way to be deformed into blowup dolls. It's a cultural disease that deserves all the criticism it can get. It's not a question of identity, it's a completely unneccessary choice to remove all authenticity from your appearance, it's a cultural practise and though culture should be free, thankfully it's not beyond the scope of criticism.
To me plastic surgery goes into the same category as tattoos, piercings or any other body mod. It's the sole business of the person getting it. Is tattooing "Mr. Cool ice" all over ones body ill-advised? Not my body, not my say.
The reason I'm kind of passionate about this is because I saw first-hand why the non-famous get plastic surgery. I had a good friend who really suffered under her "witches nose". The reason it got to the point where she got a rhino despite not really having the money for it was an accumulation of societal pressure shaming her for her skin color and families wealth. She felt that she couldn't get a husband (a must have for every woman where I grew up) because she looked too much like a stereotypical farm girl (she wasn't a farm girl, but "looking like one" was bad enough for her) and indeed married very late. Whether that was a self-fulfilling prophecy or not doesn't really matter I believe, the psychological damage she suffered at the hand of an oppressive patriarchal society that shames women for how they look and then shames them even more when they get plastic surgery was severe. Maybe she lacked strength of character or role models, she at the least lacked the wealth to carve out her own path, but these "haha woman even uglier after trying to be prettier" kinds of "jokes" do harm.
For another example look at how this poor woman suffered for an ad she appeared in: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34568674 . And I'm sure you can guess how much shit the "husband" in the ad got.
I would look at why these people put their bodies in harms way, at why their body dysmorphia is so severe that they would do such self harm. Where is their "obsession with what a woman should look like" coming from? Shaming people for how they feel has never worked, the fight must be with the patriarchy and not those trying to survive under it.
To be clear, this is not about Kristi Noel, I dont care for her. My problem is with south park playing a very cheap trope that they played before on Sara Jessica Parker, on Michael Jackson (a racist component has appeared) and on trans people as a whole (the "Mr. Garrison's Fancy New Vagina" episode).
There is a discussion to be had about public figures like Ms. Noel, Sara Jessica Parker, Donatella Versace or countless other models, actresses and so on reinforcing patriarchal beauty norms through their plastic surgery because they have been presented as role models (and later, objects of ridicule), but this is south park we are talking about. Their "satire" isn't that deep.
Thanks for the reply, I think I understand your sentiment but ultimately I still disagree with you. I agree that those who do plastic surgery can be seen as victims to societal pressures and in that sense deserve empathy rather than ridicule. It's a shortsighted solution, because it's often counterproductive (people often look worse & it increases pressure on others that differ from the 'ideal'), ineffective (people often aren't satisfied afterwards and keep going for more surgery), not without danger (there's a shitload of complications happening) and only a short term solution (no matter how much surgery you do, appearances change). A better solution is acceptance, coming to terms with how you look. This solution is safe, durable, and inspiring to others. People generally perceive 'satisfaction with ones appearance' as attractive (of course this is outside the digital realms of Instagram and such, where people don't actually exist, so this shouldn't matter). But we can hardly blame people for shortsightedness. It's a tragedy, but they're not to blame. But this doesn't mean it's not deserving of criticism. Plastic surgery is a mistake. We all make mistakes. I've been an addict for 6 years of my life. It was my way of coming to terms with my family falling apart. It was a tragedy, but it was also a mistake. That's not to suggest that it would be fair to mock me in public. But I was just a depressed teenager, this woman is a prominent fascist figure. If you want to rule the world, you should be willing to face the ridicule. People will ridicule you for every mistake you ever made. If you're an addict and you want to rule the world, be ready for people pointing towards your addictions. Now is that really unfair? She pretends she has the wisdom to decide about wether fascists ICE gangs should hunt down people in the streets, which she clearly deems the right thing to do. Isn't it fair to question her moral authority by pointing out that she shot her own dog (which might've also been a personal tragedy) and that she lacks the wisdom to refrain from deforming her appearance? May Hitler not be ridiculed for his moustache?
I personally would never go out and insult people for such things, I might criticize them for what I deem mistakes, but I generally respect people as a person, and don't reduce them to one particular trait. But context matters here. Like you said, we're talking about South Park. They're satirists. It's their role in our society to satirize people in positions of power. If they had chosen some unknown innocent nobody, I would completely agree that that's unfair. But not by accident, they've chosen a fascist leader.
I dont think plastic surgery is a mistake in and of itself and should be dismissed as a whole. Is a trans person getting gender affirming surgery a mistake? Why shouldn't similar reasons apply to cis people? I probably would get a hair transplant given the option, why not? It depends on what the surgery is meant to address. If for example it is meant as treatment for a mental illness for which there are better options available, it's a mistake for sure. But this is between a patient and their doctor, not something for society to comment on.
It's the same or at the least very similar stigma to other body modifications. "How will you get a job", "How will this look when you age", "I can't believe you would defile your body like that" etc. I'm fairly certain that people getting plastic surgery know the societal risks fully well since plastic surgery is a very entrenched taboo. Probably moreso than tattoos or piercings nowadays. They definitely know the physical dangers since doctors are obliged to go over them with a patient before operating.
This idea that plastic surgery is something for the vain or mentally ill is based on a stereotype that is not always true. This in turn makes people go into hiding or present themselves as someone they don't want to be, so as not to be associated with "them". It gives power to the people that enforce a normative society.
To be clear, Kristin's not a rebel for getting plastic surgery. On the contrary she is willing to enforce societal norms through great violence, but this is not a distinction south park makes with their plastic surgery jokes. I know this because they made this joke a couple of times now. What was the inherent criticism of Michael Jacksons nose falling off? What behind Kyles dad getting a "dolphinoplasty"? The whole point of that latter episode is to make fun of trans people and those getting plastic surgery. There are plenty of reasons to assume bad faith on Matt and Trey's side and not give them the benefit of the doubt. I'm saddened to see libs flock to these reactionaries just because the fascists happen to catch some strays.
The difference between making fun of Hitlers moustache and Kristin's plastic surgery is that there is no societal class of chaplin moustache wearers that are routinely targeted. Anyone with a chaplin moustache knows fully well what they are doing. But if Hitler had been overweight, making fun of him for being fat would be fatphobic. Making fun of Ernst Röhm for being gay would be homophobic. Kristins plastic surgery is made to be funny in itself, it gets smuggled in with deserving criticism and jokes, but it is not a key element to any of the other barbs targeted her way. That's why it targets everyone getting plastic surgery, is hurtful and that should be reason enough to shun it.
Gnome is a cunt with ears. It's not just ok to bag the shit out of that creature, it's a moral obligation. Fantasize over something else, craven.
Being sexist to a nazi is still being sexist. Brave warrior calling women "cunt"s on the internet.
I'll go further. Vile people like you who support Gnomes and Drumphs, can go fuck yourselves!
Careful! Brave internet warrior coming through!
Careful! Pig pedophile and pet animal killing enabler coming through! Fuck you some more, you pathetic snowflake nazi!
How am I enabling anyone by telling people to quit with their sexism you stupid fuck
They made fun of Michael Jackson's plastic surgery too, but this was more extreme.
Trump is surrounded by ghouls.
What? Are you saying the undead are sliding metal rods up his penis?
I mean... depending on what drugs are propping the fucker up still, wouldn't surprise me if he's cathetered.
My phone autocorrected me and I didn't notice.
no you had it right the first time
Maybe both.
Easy to do, when you are a ghoul.
Chad
the show really took a SHOT at her. it's a DOG eat DOG world out there. she seems very all BARK and no bite. by SHOOTING them a message, she showed a kind of DOGmatic attitude.
I mean, they are misogynistic if they're pulling shit like this. Regardless of what she has done.
I’m guessing they would do the same if it was a guy with plastic surgery.
They did, with Michael Jackson. He just wasn't simultaneously being a whiney little snowflake about it.
Never seen Southpark before have you?
"Misogynistic" is a word that gets overused these days..
Making fun of the ICE lady isn't inheritly misogynistic. Childish, for sure. But not everything is born out of "hate for women" just because its aimed at a woman.
Maybe she's just an asshole and is reaping the rewards of being so publicly.
They would've pulled that joke regardless of gender. Matt and Trey aren't misogynistic and I'd bet my life on that. Moreover, and I'll copy-paste my own answer from somewhere else:
It is entirely possible to hate on a particular person and not their entire gender.
I particularly enjoyed they James Donald Bowman (or Vance as he prefers) as a little person, which neither felt misandristic nor disrespectful to little people.
You know because James Donald Bowman is a mental midget with the IQ of a fencepost (ty Tom Waits) and not because of a general hate towards men (large or little) in general.
Simple people like these right wing Nazi cunts don't listen to reason. They do get triggered by childish things like this though. I hate using gay slurs to insult people, because it's fucking normal to be gay. But Putin is so over the top anti-gay, that I can make an exception there for example.