I haven't yet watched the video, but from the posted images, it looks like they converted the image itself to a frequency spectrum, so no image format encoding was involved before it reached the point of being audio.
Yeah, if anything, this just proves they're trancieving digital data. Not a good look for things that supposedly are not government surveillance drones. Imagine the mental gymnastics of someone still calling them animals afrer uploadung a digital file to something that looks like it's covered in patchwork taxidermy from mammal and reptile parts and that spends all day flying, watching people, marking targets with paint and making jerky mechanical movements. I guess it takes all kinds to make a world, but still.
What if all songbirds today are just singing encoded messages from a long dead civilization, passed down through generations of birds, and we just haven't realised it yet
Common Starlings are actually not native to North America and all of the wild Starlings in NA are descended from intentionally released European Starlings.
I literally just finished watching the video and open Lemmy to find this as the first post. That's kinda crazy. It's a great video. Just in case it hasn't been posted yet here it is
Can starlings teach their friends songs? It’d be neat if the PNG bird song was pass down through the generations for future interplanetary visitors to discover
That'd make for a great element in a modern remake of the movie, The Birds.
Researchers trying to reduce the distortion are tracking the patterns. They can't figure it out until a main character, a blind audiologist who lost his vision in the first attack many decades ago, has an epiphany and suggests assembling the images in sequence to form a video. It shows a bird flying and flapping its wings. The researchers keep gathering data, making the video longer and more complex.The bird now also does loops and spins. The researchers set up remote microphones all over the world and network them with their computer so it can compile in real time.
We learn that blind main character has now trained himself to "see" the images that he hears. Main character and love interest colleague walk through the park discussing their work as a flimsy pretext to spend time together. All of a sudden, the birdsong changes. "Run, love interest!" says main character, but love interest won't leave main character behind. The camera pans over to the computer screen in their laboratory, which overlooks the park. The video now shows another scene at the end, an enormous eagle shredding a person with its talons and beak.
OOooh, what if we are spectrographing bird calls and suddenly we see a picture develop out of it. Or, you could use birds to store data and no one would ever know, like a spy thing.
This is a concept in the Dune book series where the fremen use bats and birds who's speech they can modify in a way that encoded any secret message they want and then they send the bird out and someone else can then catch the bird and decode it's speech to get the message. That's why in the Dune 2 movie there's a bird menagerie inside the fremen caves
Oh, that would be perfect! Our local avian rescue has had three unhomed crows for a while. I think they got another one recently, so it would be four good caws.
The video is rad if you haven't seen it
Benn Jordan is one of my favorite musicians, YouTubers, and people in the world. Highly recommended
I haven't yet watched the video, but from the posted images, it looks like they converted the image itself to a frequency spectrum, so no image format encoding was involved before it reached the point of being audio.
Would be more impressive if birds were real.
Yeah, if anything, this just proves they're trancieving digital data. Not a good look for things that supposedly are not government surveillance drones. Imagine the mental gymnastics of someone still calling them animals afrer uploadung a digital file to something that looks like it's covered in patchwork taxidermy from mammal and reptile parts and that spends all day flying, watching people, marking targets with paint and making jerky mechanical movements. I guess it takes all kinds to make a world, but still.
What if all songbirds today are just singing encoded messages from a long dead civilization, passed down through generations of birds, and we just haven't realised it yet
But the reason there is nothing obvious on the spectrogram is because it's compressed data
*hits bong*
Coupled with IP-over-avian-carrier, this would potentially make for an interesting concept.
you could call it starlink
Storklink
Starkink
If only there were a common bird, that could "carry" this message.
I feel like starlings are pretty common.
Common Starlings are actually not native to North America and all of the wild Starlings in NA are descended from intentionally released European Starlings.
I believe you're right. There are a few other common birds that are invasive too, including pigeons, if I remember correctly.
And also make for a giant network of bird-dropping cataclysms weaving through the most populous areas.
https://news.wisc.edu/content/uploads/2017/04/Internet-Atlas-map.jpg
Why is Idaho’s Internet infrastructure in the shape of a shitting llama?
Just Idaho things
This is science, revealing the world's mysteries.
That's probably because Idaho's Internet-using population is in the shape of a shitting llama.
https://xkcd.com/1138/
Judging by its orientation, I'd guess the State of Wyoming did something to piss off a group of Idahoan network engineers.
I literally just finished watching the video and open Lemmy to find this as the first post. That's kinda crazy. It's a great video. Just in case it hasn't been posted yet here it is
I love this dude's work. He's so chaotic, and it makes me happy to see someone thriving by leaning in their ADHD
Definitely chaotic good energy. Big fan of his videos.
You know he makes music? It's The Flashbulb :)
HES THE FLASHBULB? I LVOE HIS MUSIC AND I DIDNT EVEN KNOW
I know right? He's the best. I love his range of creativity.
He's a nice dude as well. Love his Vidz about economics
You know he makes music? It's The Flashbulb :)
He's great. Reminds me of Folding Ideas.
I love unhinged data storage methods. My favorite is storing data in internet server pings to australia: Harder Drive
A close runner up goes to Can you store a Pokemon silver save INSIDE of Pokemon Emerald? Adef made his own video on it in I Turned Pokemon Emerald into a Flash Drive
Anyone have more? This is like my favorite genre of internet nonsense
https://youtu.be/qFZQPvdL5fQ
I liked this one a lot
Can starlings teach their friends songs? It’d be neat if the PNG bird song was pass down through the generations for future interplanetary visitors to discover
The analog distortion would be fun to watch propagate from bird to bird.
That'd make for a great element in a modern remake of the movie, The Birds.
Researchers trying to reduce the distortion are tracking the patterns. They can't figure it out until a main character, a blind audiologist who lost his vision in the first attack many decades ago, has an epiphany and suggests assembling the images in sequence to form a video. It shows a bird flying and flapping its wings. The researchers keep gathering data, making the video longer and more complex.The bird now also does loops and spins. The researchers set up remote microphones all over the world and network them with their computer so it can compile in real time.
We learn that blind main character has now trained himself to "see" the images that he hears. Main character and love interest colleague walk through the park discussing their work as a flimsy pretext to spend time together. All of a sudden, the birdsong changes. "Run, love interest!" says main character, but love interest won't leave main character behind. The camera pans over to the computer screen in their laboratory, which overlooks the park. The video now shows another scene at the end, an enormous eagle shredding a person with its talons and beak.
That's all I've got so far.
I'm sold
Birds are memes propagators into the future. Human civilization ends, but the starlings keep the memes alive... interesting idea for a story.
OOooh, what if we are spectrographing bird calls and suddenly we see a picture develop out of it. Or, you could use birds to store data and no one would ever know, like a spy thing.
Imagine ending up in prison because your bird picked up something wildly illegal and immoral from the song of a neighbor.
Yes, but can Doom be played via birdsong?
Probably?
Messenger carrier pigeons are back baby! Quick, toss your 401k into Big Bird Co.
Here's the video this is referencing, for those interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCQCP-5g5bo
Love his channel - he really does just spend months at a time following some ridiculous audio-based whim and he puts so much effort into it.
Thanks for sharing, I didn't know him, and the video was really great.
I love it too, I really enjoyed the 7 levels of concerning audio surveillance (or whatever it was called) as well. First vid I saw from them.
Imagine trying to catch random birds one day in the not so distant future to see if it "contains" an image.
This is a concept in the Dune book series where the fremen use bats and birds who's speech they can modify in a way that encoded any secret message they want and then they send the bird out and someone else can then catch the bird and decode it's speech to get the message. That's why in the Dune 2 movie there's a bird menagerie inside the fremen caves
Sounds based. Imagine getting Rick rolled by a bird 🤣
Imagine finding that a bird "stored" a nude
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New dystopian achievement unlocked:
Age verification for bird watching.
“You must be 18 years or older to view the following bird: Dickcissel”
Boobies & Tits are both done for as well.
Damn I didn't see you said this, I just posted the QR elsewhere in the comments when someone asked for an iPhone killcode
They should have credited Benn Jordan, aka The Flashbulb, as the one who came up with this idea. Link to the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCQCP-5g5bo
Revival of the carrier pigeon
you have heard about IP over avian carrier
now get ready for:
Hate to be that guy, but PNG is a lossless format... Not sure bird based storage is lossless lol
Can we save a ZIP-bomb to a bird?
What's that weird symbol combination that kills iPhones if you text them to someone? I have a bird.
Is this solarpunk?
Biopunk.
Ecopunk
Steganography. Smuggling data in migratory bird brains.
How many birds do I need for about 4 hours at 15 Mbps? I want to watch The Return of the King in 4k.
You might need a murder of crows for that one.
Oh, that would be perfect! Our local avian rescue has had three unhomed crows for a while. I think they got another one recently, so it would be four good caws.
How many starlings do I need to store and play Doom?
I dunno, but here's an example of Doom over audio spectrography to help get you started. Sorry in advance for the devil link:
Doom spectrogram via the most wretched hive of scum and villainy that starts with the letter 'R'
Oh. You just play them the sound and they sing it?
pulls USB drive from backside of a pigeon
Oh my God, you're right! I think I just found one of their contractors:
https://www.thedronebird.com/products/
Quick! Get the word out! I probably don't have much ti
No shit, they're drones. Drones have been able to store data forever.
I was kinda hoping someone would do the whole redditsniper thing with one of the drone comments.
Time to update the video on hard drives no one wants.
ETA: Not a dis. These are actually really interesting.
Reminds me of IP over avian carriers ☺
Local mocking birds still sing that car alarm that hasn't been popular in at least a decade. They love it and they're the only ones
Had this in my Watch Later. Nice spoiler.
It's in the first minute of the video.
I saw this elsewhere and thought it was bs earlier, but this time I decided to check it out.
X account is called Sterling, talking about a Starling, if you didn't notice...
why not .jxl?
The starling won't accept JPEG-XL until somebody else builds a high quality decoder in a memory-safe language like Rust
Your starling enthusiast is named Sterling?
IPoAC is going to get so much faster!