How are you guys accessing and interacting with this community?
I'm interested in knowing what you guys are using to access this community, whether or not it's via mobile phone or via laptop or desktop.
If accessing via a laptop or a desktop, what is your OS? Windows, MacOS, or Linux? And if Linux, what distro are you using?
If accessing via a mobile device, you can add in some details about the app you are using or if you're using it via a mobile browser.
Of course, you guys can add more details.
Just to provide a bit of a background behind the question: I've had this preconception that the ones here are among the more technologically-inclined (whatever that means), and thus, I'm curious about the make-up of devices and software used to access and interact with this community.
UPDATE:
As promised, here's a link to the compiled data (with some rudimentary stats). I will be adding more onto them this weekend (if more replies come in).
First of all, thank you to all who've responded. While my preconceptions haven't been shattered, I'm also pleasantly surprised to find out non-techies, refugees from Reddit, who have jumped in to the Threadiverse despite it all. I dunno if that's indicative of the dumpster fire that is Reddit right now, or the tenacity of those who've sought refuge here. Maybe both.
I will be expanding on my thoughts, and others, on a separate reply.
I'm not in the Philippines but found this post on All. I'm using the /kbin PWA icon on my phone mostly. Looks like this.
Hey! It's an honor to be seen from All. Please pardon the codeswitching all over this thread.
Also, unfortunately, I can't see the (attached?) screenshot. Might be one of those interoperability problems between Lemmy and Kbin.
Fellow boost user spotted!
I'll start with mine.
I mostly use the desktop. My OS is Arch Linux and I use LibreWolf to access Lemmy.
Below is my fetch output:
On the times I use my (Android) mobile phone, I use the Jerboa app, which I've gotten from F-Droid.
I feel kinda ashamed at how smug I appear here.
EDIT: Edited out my screenfetch to remove my
user@host.does jeroba support kbin? I downloaded it but the app was kinda confusing
Hindi ata eh, but I've heard there is a Kbin mobile app incoming--but for iOS.
As far as I've read naman, mukhang okay naman daw ang kbin sa mobile browser, so maybe that's an option?
EDIT: Wait, mali ata ako, it's for both iOS and Android? Kaso mukhang beta pa lang siya.
Basically, 16GB is enough for long term. I have my laptop here (Ryzen 5 Pro, 1TB NVMe, 16GB 3200Mhz RAM) na napaka-overkill for writings. lol
That's what I thought too! Kaso parang recently, nakukulangan pa ako. Mejo sakto lang for now ang 16GB for the kind of work I do here.
Since ang talagang target ko sa build na ito is for a workstation kind of a build, akala ko tama lang ang 16GB, but recently, mejo nagsisi akong hindi nag-32GB, lol! Ang lakas kumain ng VScode ng memory eh! 🥹
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You forgot to add "btw"
/s
Is it better if I disclose that I actually installed Manjaro instead of Arch? (A friend of mine changed it to Arch using some black magic I can't even understand--all with my permission, ofc.)
Might i ask, de-googled android phone?
For me, jerboa on (googled still) samsung A52. Pop!_os 20.40 on two laptops, linux mint xfce 20.3 on a 12 year old laptop. :) librewolf on all three.
Di ko pala nakita ito, sorry!
I didn't go full de-google, but just opted for just a bit of de-bloating.
No worries dude. :) i don't expect people to be attached to their social media. Thanks for clarifying though. Same boat tayo. Gusto ko man mag-full FOSS, medyo mahirap at marami pang hindi ko ma-give up. :) lalo na sa cellphone.
Baby steps, I guess? Little by little, we learn how to remove shit on our phones, then maybe we can do more as we gain more confidence.
@megane_kun Pinoy Linux user! Huli ka!
Marami-rami tayo dito, which is quite a refreshing tbh. There's at least 11 of us here, halos isang dosena! Lol!
While working/nasa bed, Jerboa. Other than that, desktop. Firefox loyalist for as long as I could remember.
I'm fortunate that this place doesn't have any trolls yet so mod tools (which is only on desktop and quite sparse) isn't too important for now.
Lol~buti na lang talaga wala pang trolls dito. Sana by the time na magsidatingan sila dito, okay na ang mod tooling ng Lemmy.
Using a laptop (Windows 10, Chrome). I've since deleted reddit apps on my phone, and I am waiting for sync to come up with their lemmy alternative.
I'm still holding on to my reddit account to get a list of all the subs i've subscribed to, and intend to archive and delete everything once I'm certain there's a good alternative to reddit, be it Lemmy, or something else.
Si u/Sped supot.
P.S. Anybody using windows 11? Or at least VM'd it? Kamusta naman ang experience? Is it worth a try?
EDIT: Added Laptop Specs and a couple of questions.
Wait, the Sync team said they're working on a Lemmy app? That's going to rock... even if I'm more of a Relay fan.
Edit: It's true, it's damn true!
Yep it is! Ah beat me to the link!
si u/Spez bugok, now that I can agree with
I installed the chrome webpage as an app. Works identically to the mobile website but I don't have to deal with the url bar constantly coming and going while scrolling. Planning on switching to sync when that becomes available
Firefox both on PC (Fedora) and on smartphone (CalyxOS).
But I'm really looking forward to the native app to come out
Not using Kbin, but the more ways to access the Threadiverse across various devices, the better!
I use Google Chrome to get to my instance (Lemmy.world). I’m on a seven-year-old IPad. I have no idea if there are better ways to access Lemmy, or how to find the rest of the “fediverse”, but hopefully the knowledge will eventually seep into my brain. (Did I say it all correctly? I speak some 1980s Geek, but do not know the current version.)
I access Lemmy.world on Firefox on my Windows 10 desktop. I also access it from my Surface Pro 9 (Firefox too) which has Windows 11. I haven't tried it on my phone (android) yet, but I have download Jerboa and will try it out soon.
That's the first mention of a Windows Surface device in this thread so far. Nice!
I'll be the second mention then. Basically same everything as cottonmon except my surface is 1 generation behind :D
hehe, rare breed kami.
microsoft edge on asus laptop using microsoft windows
Microsoft Edge on Windows, I never thought this would be the most unique combination here so far, lol!
lol, your post is now on fediverse.
Gulat nga ako nung may nanggaling daw ng All eh. Shet. HAHAHAHAHAHA!
But hey, I'm just glad people are replying and interacting with each other here.
EDIT: I still can't choose "Wikang Tagalog" as my comment language!
i am also using Edge on a Windows machine. i like using the sidebar for Fedi stuff: Mastodon, kbin, etc.
So far... Poorly.
Browser lang ako, both desktop and mobile
Currently through kbin via safari on iphone.
I'm using Lemmy from desktop and iPhone. I'm simultaneously using the Memmy App and browser when using the iPhone.
You might be right about most people here could be more technologically-inclined. To begin with, Lemmy's UI is still confusing. Also I can imagine a lot of people asking "wtf is an instance", etc. Although this might change especially it gains more traction.
I currently browse using desktop on Firefox (don't let Chrome win the internet). Hope we will have a good mobile client soon. That being said, aRcH bTw.
The main reason I started this thread is because I want to be proven wrong, dammit! 😂
But seriously, yeah, parang ang labo na i-introduce ang mga non-techies sa Lemmy. I'd no sooner just ask for their permission and make an account for them than to walk them through the steps.
And I agree about using Firefox instead of Chrome. Unfortunately, my work requires me to use a Chromium browser (testing and other stuff) so I use Ungoogled Chromium instead.
How's Xmonad treating you, btw? I once flirted with the idea of using a tiling window manager for this work account, thinking that the way I use apps/programs could be streamlined using it. I ended up not going through it, however, since, well, tamad ako. Lol!
That's actually the main appeal of Lemmy for me. Kasi alam kong yung mga tech-savvy yung karamihan na magma-migrate. It feels refreshing kasi Reddit and social media are full of "outgoing/extroverted" people. Alam mo yung feeling na noong bata ka pa e internet ang refuge mo kasi yung mga normal na tao ay busy having a life. Pero ngayon baliktad na. Haha!
Lmao it's like trying to introduce your friends/family to Linux.
I've used tiling WMs for 7 years now. First used i3wm so I have experience before switching to Xmonad last year. Tbh, I can't recommend Xmonad for your first tiling window manager solely because it's config is a pain to learn. Unless you're already familiar with Haskell, which the config file is written on. I just switched to Xmonad because I liked the idea of dynamic tiling rather than full-on manual tiling.
Tiling WMs talaga way to go sakin kasi I really prefer working with keyboard shortcuts. Plus after using tiling wms, there's really no way I'm going back to the disorganized that is a stacking window manager. I use a Windows virtual machine for gaming (hence why I have 2 GPUs), and I can't be bothered to use Windows Explorer. Hahaha! But then I also use Vim as my text editor so I guess I'm "that weird guy".
I actually grew up before the internet is such a widespread thing here in the Philippines. Naiingit pa nga ako sa mga kaklase ko nun na may mga internet connection sa bahay since kung makagamit man ako ng internet, sa net shop pa! Tapos kailangan mo pang maging maingat sa i-sesearch mo kasi baka may sumisilip sa likod mo, lol!
I didn't really have a nerdy refuge back when I was a kid, but that's neither here nor there. So perhaps that's why I am more or less ambivalent about these things. I do get what you mean though.
I've already accepted the fact that the more a thing becomes mainstream (social media, hobbies, etc), the more the "extroverted normies" are going to flood the likes of us out, so I understand the feeling of wanting to relish these kinds of spaces in the meanwhile.
The only family member I ever tried to introduce Linux to is my brother who is a software dev. Inayawan pa rin nya, lol! Now he's in the Mac ecosystem. Sabi nya mas reliable daw, but that's really another topic altogether.
Ayun, nadali mo yung mga dahilan kung bakit ko siya di tinuloy: config and the reliance on keyboard shortcuts. I think I am one of those people who prefer a solution coming in from the non-tiling window manager side of things. Like, I'd want KDE to have more options for snapping to various pre-configured points to have it, say, occupy one-third of a screen vertically, or horizontally with the remaining space, etc. etc.
I mean, you're not weird here. We're all weird here, lol!
joined lemmy 10 minutes ago. this is my first comment. reddit user for 10+ years. I was 99% mobile (iPhone - Apollo) on reddit, and I very much want to continue that on lemmy.
On mobile, Jerboa. I am not tech savvy and lemmy.world and the other instances are still confusing to me. But I want to ditch reddit for good so I'll cope.
Ditto
To be honest, a while after I installed Manjaro in this machine, I was thinking of distro-hopping to EndeavourOS (and wished I installed it instead when this machine was brand new). However, I was convinced by a friend to just move on to Arch instead.
At any rate, I am under the impression that EndeavourOS is the user-friendly intro to Arch-based distros.
I use Hermit and Firefox and Brave’s “install/add to home’s screen feature”
So is this what I've heard about using Lemmy as a progressive web app/page?
Ah!! Thanks! I've got to try this out. HAHA!
@megane_kun
I stumbled in here from Reddit. I feel like a chimp trying to tune a radio, but everyone has been nice so far and there are stories on my home page to read, so I'm pretty content at the moment. I'm using the kbin app on a Samsung s10p
Yeah, it does take some getting used to being here. But once it clicks, you don't have to think much about it.
In fact, once the novelty of having instances with their own communities passes, it's something that we rarely have to think about.
Kbin.social
Just via browser
I'm using Mozilla Firefox on both smartphone and Windows. I've been using Firefox since an on-and-off usage with Chrome in 2017. I knew Firefox's throne a looong time before Google took over the web.
Tried Linux Mint, but my essential app (Fade In) fucked my writings' formatting and it's frustrating to edit +100-page works.
Okay lang yung Lemmy sa mobile Firefox? Was considering using it but I chickened out. Besides, I have a bunch of tabs permanently open in there anyways, lol!
Too bad about Linux Mint. It has always had a special place in my heart for the distro that introduced me to Linux way back early 2000s' when our school replaced all our Windows machines with Linux ones. Also, I am kinda sad about the poor state of Linux support among some apps/programs, kesyo 2% lang daw ang gumagamit ng Linux or whatever.
Linux Mint is fine for Windows replacement. It's just my essential app fucked by it, but everything else (playing CSGO, web browsing etc, media consumption) are fine.
Lemmy on Firefox Mobile is more than fine. Kung ano ma-eencounter na "something" sa desktop, yun din maeencounter mo sa mobile browsers.
Ahh, that's too bad about the essential app.
I see, I'm quite okay with Jerboa now, but I did consider using just Firefox Mobile. Glad to know I'd just be fine with it.
But dude, this ain't no coding. It's a screenwriting software.
Huh, here I am with the other odd solution: Latex, lol!
Seriously though, I am guessing may special formatting considerations for that kind of thing, but I won't be surprised if someone out there have already made a plugin or an extension for that kind of a usecase.
However, for professional work, I'd rather stick with the ones that are used by other professionals in the field (at least until feature parity).
Do emac and other text editors can format screenplays? Know what my use cases first.
Ahh, figures. With Fade In, I can just generate a screenplay template in seconds, write a plot, add characters and settings, and start "wondering." It's my most therapeutic and out-of-the-world session I have that I can "waste" my time before finishing a spec.
Would be nice if you could share the results after :)
I'll be compiling the results on a spreadsheet and edit the post accordingly (with a link to the spreadsheet of compiled data).
Kbin PWA on a Pixel 6. And kbin PWA on a Lenovo Duet 3 Chromebook and kbin PWA on a Windows 10 laptop.
On a windows laptop
kbin website
I use kbin on mobile (Galaxy S23 Ultra).
I've used Hermit Premium to create a Lite App (sort of a web app).
It's a good solution for now, feels like I've actually got a kbin app!
I’m using kbin on Firefox on iOS.
I first joined on lemmy in the lemmy.world instance. Ok naman siya sa browser ng PC. But then the iOS apps for lemmy are on beta and have a lot of problems pa (mlem beta is even out of slots). Kbin doesn’t have apps on beta afaik, but the interface is better than lemmy to use on mobile browser apps.
So I’ll probably be maining using my kbin account hahaha.
Kbin in 50% Safari macOS 50% Safari (appified) iOS
I use kbin and it's about a 50/50 mix of phone and laptop.
Mainly through desktop/windows. Im still having a hard time navigating jerboa. I'll wait for the eventual updates for the app.
I did have a bit of trouble back when I first tried out Jerboa (I think downloaded it just after the blackout started), but I eventually got used to it. I guess there's also something about me also using Fedilab which, well, is equally confusing and frustrating at times, lol! Kinda just got used to that kind of thing, I guess?
baka gusto nyo try, another script para mag look and feel old reddit style si lemmy using a browser
https://github.com/soundjester/lemmy_monkey/
Android jerboa gamit, dont really browse that much using desktop or laptop sa Lemmy.
Using kbin as it was the first instance I signed up for. The Fediverse concept blew my mind when I first heard of it a couple of days ago. I had heard of Mastodon before but since I was barely using Twitter anymore, I didn't feel the need to sign up. So this was my real introduction into the federation concept.
On desktop: Firefox with Tampermonkey and Stylus add-ons. Using this script for Tampermonkey, and this stylesheet for Stylus.
On mobile: Firefox with Tampermonkey (Stylus isn't available on mobile yet). Using the script on I use on desktop, but also this one.
Yes, techie. Completed an IT-related course.
Nag dual boot ako ng linux mint at windows 11 sa laptop ko. Firefox ang gamit ko kung mag lemmy ako.
Sa mobile jeroba ang gamit ko. Also guys may tanong ako paano mag switch ng server sa jeroba? Meron akong dalawang lemmy account pero iba ang server.
Punta ka sa home tab ng Jerboa app, tapos i-click mo yung hamburger menu (upper-left) and then click mo yung parang triangle to the right of your profile picture.
Click mo yung "add account"
Fill in the necessary details and then click 'login'
Verify mo kung tama yung URL ng instance mo ah! Kunwari, kung may account ka sa beehaw, eto yung dapat na nakalagay sa instance text box:
beehaw.orgEDIT: Clarified the instructions.
Accessing it via the Web on my desktop and then on the web app on my iPhone (bookmarked the site on Safari, which turns it into a basic app). I have Mlem and Memmy on my iPhone as well, but both are pretty bare bones at the moment and missing a lot of features. So I often find myself on the bookmarked-to-my-homescreen web app.
Like reddit, mobile is the primary place where I am accessing Lemmy, so I am REALLY hoping one of the existing apps becomes fully featured soon or Christian Selig develops an app like Apollo for Lemmy. I miss the Apollo app more than I miss Reddit. In terms of community and content, Lemmy seems promising as a "reddit replacement" but we really need some good mobile apps. That's what has helped Mastodon take off IMO.
I'm using mostly Kbin but also trying Lemmy using Friendly (Originally for Facebook), cause it allows me to create web apps in the app and keeps all my socials in one place.
Madalas mobile gamit Jerboa. Nagaabang rin ako ng alternative na web frontend (tulad ng Elk at Pinfore sa Mastodon).
Kapag sa PC, Windows main ako pero medyo kakasimula ko pa lang sa Linux thru Q4OS (Deb/KDE based)
Same! I just left my Windows "partition" (actually, a separate SSD given to me by my friend) alone, almost vanilla.
I only use it to play games I can't play on Linux eh, so... yeah!
Dude, tapang mo ah! Lol! Saka lang ako nag-umpisang-magkakalikot sa PC (and laptop) nung nagkaroon na ako ng PC na ako lang ang gumagamit. Takot din kasi ako na baka may mawalang files eh (tho it's just me and my brother using the PC before).
I find it weird that other people think Linux is the one that is restricted--well, not that weird considering that a lot of the software people are used to using (Photoshop, MS Word) etc, aren't available in Linux, but IDK, main driving a Linux distro since late 2019 has done nothing but destroy this "Linux is restricting!" view that I also used to share with others.
Wth is this unicorn? This is kinda interesting, I wonder what Microsoft thought about this.
All in all, we are both confirming the stereotype I've had coming in, lol! Langya! 🤣
On a Win11 laptop at home, a Win 10 desktop at work, Jerboa for Lemmy on Android anywhere, and Vivaldi Browser for Android when I need features the current Jerboa app doesn't have yet.
kbin PWA through Safari on an iPad Pro here. If anyone here is building an app on iOS, please don’t do that thing where you only do vertical layout - it drives me batty!
Huh, I've only ever had a vertical layout in RIF and Fedilab, so I am not sure I get what you mean.
First of all, I must state that I only started this thread with the intent of it being a “vibe check” of sorts, and to see whether or not my preconceptions about the userbase here is indeed correct. It has never been intended as a survey of any sort.
Now, with that disclaimer out of the way....
Here is a screenshot of my rudimentary summarisation of the data:
There have been 49 respondents thus far, 32 of them coming from Lemmy and 17 coming from Kbin. There was a time last night when responses from Kbin were pouring in, but overall, a good chunk of the responses came from Lemmy.
That's where the clear-cut results end. A running theme while compiling the data I've got from your responses is how flimsy my attempts at organizing data have been. On the broad, I divided the data between "mobile" and "desktop and laptop", but there are some responses that made me question this categorization. I took notes and put them in their own column (one for ‘mobile’, another for ‘desktop/laptop’ and still another for other notes that might be helpful to me and others who would be crunching through the responses.
With that said, let's move on to the results for the ‘desktop’ side of things. This includes laptops, chromebooks, and virtual machines. There are a handful of others I only listed as ‘unspecified’. If there are any mis-placed, mis-categorized, responses, it's on me.
There are 29 respondents who said they are using some kind of a desktop (or a laptop or others.) And among them, 16 mentioned using Windows, 11 mentioned using a Linux distro, and 4 mentioned using iOS or macOS. This shouldn't be at all a surprise for me. I already expected Linux being over-represented here, but 38% (11 out of 29) is still quite a lot. The surprise came with the number of people mentioning using iOS or macOS, garnering a decent 14% (4 out of 29).
For those who mentioned using a desktop browser, Firefox is mentioned the most, with 15 mentions (plus two of us using LibreWolf, 17). It shouldn't be surprising at all, I suppose, with the overall ethos of Lemmy having a comfortable overlap with what Firefox stands for. Chromium-based browsers have 6 mentions, with two (2) using Edge on Windows. There is one mention of using kbin as a PWA on a chromebook, which I counted as a laptop (and hence, in the desktop category).
Now, onto the mobile side of things. There are 32 respondents who said (or interpreted as saying that) they use a mobile device. 21 of those respondents further said (or again, I took as saying that) they use an Android device. There are six who use an Apple device (counting the mentions of
iPhoneandiPad). This seems to track well with the corresponding results from the desktop side of things (19%, 6 out of 32 in mobile, as opposed to 14%, 4 out of 29 in desktop).There are 14 responses saying they use Jerboa, two (2) saying they use Memmy, and one (1) mention of using mlem. Considering that both Memmy and mlem are iOS apps, that's 3 (of 21) using iOS apps to access Lemmy. This still seems to jive well with the other stats so far.
There are 7 responses saying they use some sort of a PWA solution to acess Lemmy/Kbin. There are 9 responses saying they use a mobile browser. If put together, there's 15 responses saying they use the browser (either through a PWA solution, or not) to access Lemmy/kbin.
And I guess that's it? Again, thank you everyone for responding.
LibreWolf FTW :)
edit: had to blacklist the 940mx gpu bc it burned to a crisp ;w;
I think you're the only guy other than me who's using LibreWolf here thus far. I'm just glad I'm not the only one, lol!
Also, if you don't mind me asking, how did your 940mx gpu ended up being fried?
Oh... I think it just got tired of being abused (this laptop has ~7 years of life)
The GPU itself died last year, after some hardcore 17 fps gaming lmao (I think the last game I played on it was Dinkum)
Ahahahahaha!! So it died of old age naman pala. It has lived quite a long (and fulfilling?) life na rin as a GPU, I think.
I was half-expecting some kind of a, IDK, ill-fated Minecraft expedition to the far lands. Well, Dinkum isn't that far off, lol!
I'm using my phone to access the kbin.social website. Specifically I'm using Iceraven, which is a fork of Firefox for Android with a lot more add-ons enabled, and some other annoyances fixed.
Some things seem really snappy, other things seem to take a long time to load or even time out. But I assume that's just growing pains and it'll get better in due time.
I also tried using the official Mastodon app, but found that I couldn't really follow communities, only individual users.
[Edit]: trying it out on my computer now (Firefox on a Macbook) - looks about the same, just more content on screen at once. Feels like it's loading faster, but that might just be because it's been a couple of hours.
Mobile: Using Jerboa app on my Android phone, but sometimes there are issues with the app such as the lack of sorting comments. I would switch to the Chrome app to access Lemmy at other times.
Desktop: Using Chrome on my Windows 10 laptop.
I'm using Jerboa and browser in mobile phone.
Jerboa app sa android. Hindi ko lang makita yung ibang communities dito kaya sa browser(fennec) ako nag-aadd. And phone lang ang gamit.
So far, this is my impression of lemmy. Not everyone, of course, but users in lemmy in general seem to know their way around tech.
Brave browser on android.
iOS Lemmy world PWA. Just started using Lemmy so haven’t tried on desktop yet.
Currently on Firefox in a Windows 11 VM running as a guest on Fedora via KVM. Still waiting for something like Baconreader to show up for Lemmy, but I'll take anything else that works similarly to it.