Taliban official says women lose value if their faces are visible to men in public
A Taliban official says women lose value if their faces are visible to men in public, and that the only way to wear the hijab, or the Islamic headscarf, is if the face is hidden
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The Taliban is what happens when you let incels govern
The Taliban is what happens when the US government funds and arms a right wing religious militia
It's not accurate to conflate the Mujahideen and the Taliban. In fact, the Taliban is in open conflict with a lot of former Mujahideen.
The Taliban predates US government intervention. Kindly STFU.
The Taliban came to power after the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, you dollard!
3 July 1979: CIA initiates Operation Cyclone, financing the Mujahedeen in Afghanistan.
25 December 1979: Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
1989: Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan.
1992: Democratic Republic of Afghanistan collapses; start of the Afghan Civil War.
1992: Operation Cyclone ends, after funneling thousands of tons of weaponry worth several billion US dollars to militant Islamic groups, including groups with jihadist ties.
1994: Emergence of the Taliban.
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Taliban really do view women as property, not human.
Most religious zealots are the same...
And Republicans.
Cunts like this lose value every time they talk.
Are we talking a per pore basis or more like a per square inch of skin thing? Does this mean women with larger faces are more valuable so long as a higher proportion of face is covered vs uncovered? I'm just trying to understand their obviously completely logical and rational point of view here.
Good point. The last thing you want is a woman whose face has been used up by being looked at a bunch of times.
If another man jacks of thinking about your wife, the sex with her is slightly less satisfying. /s
Fuck these small-minded fucks.
Religion impeded their evolution somewhere between monkey and when the started walking on two feet.
IDKY that hit hard, but DAMN that was funny to me tonight!
Every single one of these Taliban men was birthed by a woman, nursed by one, and mostly raised by one.
Women, if you raise your son's to be Muslim they will treat your daughter's like this. Tell them that there is no Allah, tell them that Abdul and Mohammad were wicked, tell them that the Imam is a shaman. Tell them the truth before it's too late.
No, not all Muslims treat their daughters like this. Too many do, yes, but not all. Look at Indonesia, for example, or many Western countries which have Muslim populations. It's partly religion, partly culture.
Yes it is possible to be a moral person and a god fearing one, it is just harder. To the extent that they are NOT following their religion they should be praised. The gotcha works the other way better.
Plus you can still teach your kids the truth.
Hi know good muslim people, so it's not just that.
That said, plenty of issues come down to religion in general, with a few exceptions here and there.
It is amazing to me how different the views are. One on side you got Westerner apologists whose knowledge of Islam is what they half remember from a video they saw on YouTube ten years ago on the other hand you have the Taliban. Both sides claim to know what real Islam is about. Well sorry not sorry I am going to believe the people who live with the Koran vs you.
You know good Muslims? I do as well. Does that make the tenents of Islam good? I don't think so. Does that make them true? Nope. All you can really say is that you know people who aren't following their own religion and as a result they are good people.
Correct, and the same for Christianity. The doctrines are really quite similar in their treatment of minorities. The only difference in that respect is that one doctrine says to just kill them, and the other says to exile and shun them (but stoning for some), or torment them mentally and emotionally until they abandon their beliefs and conform to the doctrine of the church.
The tenets of Islam are pretty good tho - pray a lot every day, give money to the poor, do a pilgrimage - it's the historic and contemporary leadership, culture, violence, and precedence that are bad
Praying is talking to yourself because there is no god to hear it.
Sure, but meditation is good
Praying isn't Meditating, it's Praying.
It has some medical benefits yes. As does a small walk around the block.
I would love a religion that mandates 5 daily walks
Nope you're just a bigot.
You an call me what you want, that won't make your skydaddy real.
I'm an atheist and have read the Koran. Got it as a gift from a Muslim friend who is an eminently decent and well meaning person.
Are you dumb or just a bigot?
Are you poisoning the well or using a personal attack to avoid dealing with an idea?
I've dealt with the idea.
Oh really? Because your comment was about me and not a single thing I said.
Guess the Koran doesn't teach logical fallacies, just how much a women's testimony is worth compared to a man's.
Yeah you're still a bigot, lumping every Muslim into the same fucked up delusion you have.
Attack the argument and not the person. Do I need to put it in some Koran-like form?
And skydaddy said it unto the prophet blessed be he, thus sayeth Allah the most merciful. It is far better for a person to attack the ideas than the men who spoketh the idea. For the first leads to reasoned debate the latter is Haram and leads to logical fallacies.
There, that ought to do it. See? I am meeting you halfway. Do you need a copy of basic logic as well?
I'm not your daddy or your teacher. And I wasn't born yesterday. You're a bigot and saying otherwise is gaslighting.
women should have power, not value
It's ok for people to have value, but that value shouldn't only be their appearance. And men have value too. This guy has negative value to the world.
Depends what you mean by value... the Taliban isn't talking about personal virtue, they're talking about women as products.
So, they subscribe to the Andrew Tate philosophy.
Honestly, this isn’t that far off
Didn’t he literally convert
Didn't the loser convert to islam a while ago?
"I kinda like mysterious women."
"I totally agree! They totally lose value if other people can see their face in public."
"Wait what? No, not like that..."
I'd say the 7th century wants its values back but on the other hand, no, it probably doesn't.
When you’re a worthless, ignorant, fundamentalist, once dickhead- you’ll say anything to make it look like you have any kind of value at all. If hell was real, these guys would fucking rot there.
How much value is a nose? Just a nose? Like in USD.
No idea in USD, but it must be at least half a goat, maybe even a whole one.
If I see this guy, I see this is more appropriate with men than women...
Women depreciation is worse than on Italian sports cars :-(
Sounds like if they would get less cows for them when selling them on a market, after their face was revealed.
Welcome to islam. Maybe start teaching science and logic rather than religion and you'll have less nut bags.
They used to. Then the zealots took over. Shame really.
If they have any books left that is. They probably used them to warm themselves during winter.
When it comes to losing worth for showing ones face, the guy in the picture should be the first to wear a sack over his head. With most of his taliban cronies following suit.
i [nobody's official] say taliban
losegain value if their dead faces are visible in public