Jeffrey Epstein's former attorney who secured plea deal found dead
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Lol. This will destroy any progress they thought they were making burying the Epstein story, even if it is natural causes
"guys, did we do this? was this one us? i'm kinda freaking out over here"
killing Ozzy was successful in taking the focus away for a few minutes
At least he was old. Did they really have to throw in Theo Huxtable?
As someone who was caught in a rip tide with my 6 y/o son, it has to be one of the top worst ways to die.
and a very traumatic experience even when you survive. does he still like swimming in the ocean? I know I didn't after my experience
Good question. Haven't really been to the beach with him in a very long time. That was 21 years ago.
Yep RIP tides are no laughing matter. I was lucky enough when it happened to me I just ended up several hundred feet down the beach. Once you are in it. It can be way harder to get out than a lot of people might think.
Yes, we needed help getting out. I was swimming parallel as needed and kept pushing my son out 2-3 feet ahead of me so I was motivated enough to swim to him. After a few minutes, a young man, probably 20s, came in to help.
Putin kills people all the time. Everybody knows it was him but he's still in power.
It doesn't matter if this keeps the story alive as long as no one faces actual consequences for it.
"at the age of 80 after an illness"... Not that anyone is going to read that far.
The world's elite rulers are credibly accused of molesting children for decades and doing everything possible to deny it, including seemingly the murder of the alleged Israeli spy that has evidence of their crimes. His lawyer who potentially knows way too much conveniently dies when he's granted legal protection to speak up, and we should just accept that 80 year old sick man died?
Maybe, but you'd be very naive to dismiss foul play.
You'd be naive to jump right to that conclusion.
The worldwide pedophile ring of rich people definitely does exist. That doesn't mean we throw out rational skepticism in other ways.
"Not dismiss" <> "jump to".
I didn't jump to any conclusions, I simply didn't dismiss it outright and stop engaging critically as soon as I see the official narrative of "80 year old sick man dies"
cough slow poisoning cough
Dihydrogen monoxide isn't quick, but it's effective.
The ole' "Get them addicted to cigarettes when theyre 12" assassination plan
No one believes that.
Clearly it was Beiber that popped him.
That's not what the headline says, OP unless it's changed since you posted it.
He was sick and 80. He died. Not "found dead".
Honestly. I'm glad he made the title what it is. Makes it obvious when people comment without even bother to open the article.
How do you know he's dead? Because someone tried calling him, and maybe went to his home to check on him... And (dare I say it) found him dead?
He was survived by his wife, who was with him when he died?
And now we have a suspect!
j/k
Okay, he was very old and ill, but I'm still suspicious!
The timing is indeed odd
All the easier to murder for political reasons, my dear
No reason to murder this guy now, though.
He actually called me last week and said
so looks def sus to me
Did he release it to you??? Watch your back dude. I’d hate for you to succumb to illness and old age too!
What are you doing that makes you so suspicious? Trenchcoat and shades?
Donald Trump is a child rapist
Stone cold take. Let's face it if he weren't in those files he would have released them. He has no loyalty to anyone else so he wouldn't care about protecting them.
Are you talking about Donald J. Trump the child rapist?
Had JD Vance visited him recently?
He wasn't a couch.
Or a Pope.
He's applying for the prince of darkness position.
Well, one did just open up...
Love ya!
He didn't meet with the pope. The pope sent someone to meet with him.
What's with the headline - "found dead?" His law partner said he died, at 80, after a long illness. Nowhere in the article, following that headline, did it mention he was "found dead," which, juxtaposed in the same sentence as Epstein, makes it sound nefarious, when in fact, it was just an old guy dying after an unnamed prolonged illness. My guess would be cancer. Not exactly a "found dead" context.
Can’t we just do the GOP playbook and make up a bunch of bullshit, spread rumours, intentionally ignore the facts and live in dipshitland? The answer is no but I do wonder what it’s like over there
No that just allows differently colored snakes to take over, we don't beat this by stooping to their level — at least not that level.
Interesting how you, a seemingly random commenter, seems to have personal knowledge of the death of a lawyer with ties to Epstine.
How did I do?
Probably something like, "found dead in his bedroom when the nurse went to check in on him in the morning". My MiL died in hospice, at home; she wasn't hooked up to a ton of machines, so we don't know exactly when she died. She was dead when my spouse woke up from napping.
The title of the post ≠ the headline of the article, which make it all the more problematic.
Reading his history he was famous for defending assholes getting scot free or getting much less than they deserved. Was one of those "if you have the money he'll fix it"
"When the going gets tough, you don't want a criminal lawyer. You want a criminal lawyer."
Your daily reminder that ~1% of the population are high-functioning (not actual murderer) psychopaths.
That's kind of the job of a defense attorney. By definition, most of his clients are going to be scumbags. He's no different than any other defense attorney, except some of his clients tend to be celebrities.
It's a requirement, and a flaw, of the adversarial justice system, particularly where lawyers arent appointed, but hired. It breaks down if there isn't a vigorous defense of the accused, but it is exacerbated by money giving access to more capable defense, which can lead to rich people having a license to do whatever they want, up to and including killing their spouses.
I have a hard time imagining a world where Epstein, Bieber, the Kennedys, or any of their ilk could be considered underdogs. Good riddance.
Funny how these assassinations only happen when trump is president
Stop posting sensationalist shit. The dude died at 80, this wasn't an assassination. He wasn't 'found'
OMG! He's missing!!?
I want to believe 👽
Sir, there is no nuance here.
(Seriously though I don't like so much ragebait on Lemmy either)
Its Newsweek.
80 and ill. But horrible timing. Idk guys smells fishy to me
Yeah, 80
/s (don't really know much about this upstanding citizen)
I don't know much about the man but he chose an excellent time to die.
Actual headline:
damnit, and I like a good conspiracy too... /s
He was also sick before it happened, per Newsweek.
Did he fall out a window maybe?
Nah, he was old and sick, so it's probably natural causes, but it certainly won't help the conspiracy theorists on the right who've been flailing around over Epstein.
A lot of homicides on old people go unnoticed though, as their deaths are just declared natural without any proper investigation e.g. autopsy.
There's no evidence of that here, but I'm fine with right-wing conspiracy crazies freaking out over the possibility.
That line of logic sounds like something Qanon would come up with.
I knew love was blind, but this is bordering on black hole levels of blindness.
Actually I respect it. Its easy to view this comment from her to be about Epstein when the article mentions him specifically, but a person's career is more than the 1 bullet point people become known for. I didn't follow his career so I dont really know.
I think everyone deserves representation in court, no matter how heinous they are. If they have a multi million dollar defense and still go to prision... that fucker is guilty. When they are stuck with some overworked public defender, it starts to raise doubts even when it would otherwise be an obvious case.
Wtf - what is character if not behaviour?
The prosecutor who offered that joke of a deal WAS GIVEN A CABINET POSITION by The Dipshit.
Acosta was the secretary of labor for 2 years. He's still alive.
Was that the deal that gave immunity to any of Epstein's co-conspirators?
Mysteriously
Even though this dude was 80y old, that won't stop far-right conspiracy theorists from running with this. I think most will be sane enough to point out his age, but you know there will be those on the fringe of the fringe who see something suspicious about it. Personally, I look forward to seeing the melted explanations they come up with.
Lol, lemmy theorists will not be far behind. Lucky he didn’t work for Boeing, too.
No but I bet he flew on one at some point, so it's all linked.
Donald Trump is 79.
And so it begins...
First Ozzy, now this 80 year old man.
If you go to Zahadoom you will die...
this sounds more like conscience taking its toll on his health
was hoping this headline was for Dershowitz
That ghoul will outlive us all.
Coin flip of whether it is just age or the tying of a loose end. Regardless, enemies of the Regime should just run with the latter narrative.
News like this is all too typical for the US these days. There is really no rule of law here anymore - none whatsoever - I am truly glad that I do not live in this absurd banana republic.
I am keeping my fingers crossed for all reasonable US citizens, of course, but please forgive me if I am not overly hopeful.
My brother in christ. Are you allergic to reading the articles you comment on?
Or are you not aware of how aging works?
Yes, I'm sorry, I'm allergic nowadays. I can't take it anymore.
He was 80 years old and sick. Just like with Scalia's death, there's no reason to jump to conclusions about foul play. Of course, that won't stop the Alex Jones crowd from doing it anyway.
Sorry, I fell for the clickbait headline because I wouldn't have been surprised if this guy had "killed himself." It's a bit like The Onion; it's hard to tell the difference between that and US news, and I don't read articles about it anymore because I don't see the point.