and PixelFed, Pleroma, Akkoma, Miskey, Calckey, Goto Social, OwnCast, Funkwhale, Mobilizon, Bookwyrm, Friendica, WriteFreely, and probably a bunch more.
@0x4E4F@Dirk thats a feature not a bug, unless they are single user or family only instances, they usually will let you open an account if you are. But there are others do allow open registration, like the one I have an account on, that I've never actually used, https://peertube.uno
@fuat2mb hello! Thanks for sharing the love about CryptPad! Just a small thing about that instance you are linking to: it's very much outdated, contains bugs and is misconfigured (posing security issues, look at https://cryptpad.devol.it/checkup/). For up-to-date instances we recommend checking our community public list: https://cryptpad.org/instances/. Hope this helps! ๐ @0x4E4F@Dirk
I'd rather stay anonimous. Plus, I'd get banned for uploading NSFW things on it (most probably it's not allowed), so... I'd rather just get banned as some anon user than someone who actually wanted an account on that instance.
Whatever, I'm not even gonna open up an account to be honest, there are tons of other proprietery services that offer more or less the same thing. Might as well use them, doesn't make amy difference IMO.
@0x4E4F@Dirk remember all content requires storage to host it, and high-quality video is particularly expensive for that. peertube.uno is brought to us by the folks at https://www.devolt.it which offers a ton of these kind of services free of charge, and I'm not really sure how they afford to. (Though I might have a better idea if I actualy spoke Italian.) I first found them searching for an alternative to Google Docs and found https://cryptpad.devol.it and learned #Cryptpad is even better than GoogleDocs without the surveillance capitalism.
@0x4E4F@Dirk remember all content requires storage to host it, and high quality video is particularly expensive for that. peertube.uno is brought to us by the folks at https ://devolt.it which offers a ton of these kind of services free of charge, and I'm not really sure how they afford to. I first found them looking for an alternative to Google Docs and found https://cryptpad.devol.it and learned #Cryptpad is even better than GoogleDocs without the surveillance capitalism.
They defederated with multiple large lemmy instances (lemmy.world and another I donโt remember). They also did this in an asymmetric way making themselves an island whose content gets sent out into the fediverse but who doesnโt listen to updates for the content that gets sent out.
If I comment on a beehaw post as a lemmy.world user, my comment will only live on lemmy.world and not the rest of the fediverse because of what beehaw did
Iโm going to unsubscribe from my beehaw communities then. I was wondering why I was still getting updates from them. Itโs like being shadow banned.
Well yeah, but that was because of an influx of spam and not because beehaw admins have anything against lemmyworld. Afaik they are currently working out with lemmyworld's admin how to solve this situation and refederate.
Yeah, but who's fault was it that beehaw got swarmed with users. Everyone on beehaw that also had reddit accounts wrote "come over to Lemmy, sign up on beehaw ๐"... why would I even suggest that if it doesn't matter on which instance users signed up, they can all still see the same content posted on the fediverse. Unless you defederate that is, then yeah... but that just means that they were planning on running it like a forum and defederate from the start, then just use the influx as an excuse.
Why are people so upset about Beehaw being quite exclusionary?
When I first learned about the Fediverse part of the appeal was that some instances would be open, some would be more exclusive, and that was part of the appeal. Don't like how open/exclusionary one is? Then leave and go to a different one.
Defederation is a feature of the Fediverse, and using it isn't some big crime.
Defederation is a feature of the Fediverse, and using it isn't some big crime.
Defederation was meant as a last measure to block instances like gab.ai or truth social. Not to block content the Moderators may not like. At the end it should be the users choice what content they enjoy. Large instances blocking each other betrays the whole idea, the dream that we can all communicate. This is, at its core, Gmail blocking Outlook users to send mails to Gmail users because Outlook allows X, Y and Z and its just insanity.
I agree. We should be able to federate and defederate who and when we want. If you really can't find any sever that fits your needs, there's always personal instances and starting your own server.
It's a protocol that fediverse platforms, such as Lemmy, KBin, Mastodon and PeerTube use. Basically, it's how all of the different instances and platforms find one another in the fediverse, how they federate.
Except isn't the truth that they experienced harassment from other open-registration instances and in lack of better moderation tools chose to defederate for the time being?
You can find this information for yourself by searching Lemmy. Canโt be arsed with this back and forth when the information is freely available, the mod logs prior to the defederation shows no mass user ban on their instance. Which is what you would expect to see to justify the defederation. They also said they were defederating because of the fact Lemmy.world and sh.itjustworks didnt require email verification on sign up.
My thoughts as well.. I mean, come on, how much harrasement can you get on a platform that has just begun filling with users and barely has 10K users... we'd have to all be in on it, like "hey, everyone, let's fuck with beehaw, he he he ๐".
Where PeerTube?
and PixelFed, Pleroma, Akkoma, Miskey, Calckey, Goto Social, OwnCast, Funkwhale, Mobilizon, Bookwyrm, Friendica, WriteFreely, and probably a bunch more.
GoToSocial is a server focused on Mastodon compatibility.
But yes. All of them.
Hey, it was quick and dirty ๐คท.
Plus 99% of them don't allow you to open an ccount, so... f them.
You don't need to open an account. You can follow PeerTube channels from Lemmy.
PeerTube channels, as far as I can tell, are groups, not users, so they should be follow able on Lemmy as if they were Lemmy communities.
ETA: Seems to work ok from my Lemmy account. I was able to pull in https://lemmy.ml/c/[email protected]
@Kichae hmmm... https://kbin.social/m/[email protected] doesn't work just by typing it, but when I logged into my kbin.social account and searched for @unitedkingdom_channel the magazine then existed.
That probably just means that no one had polled the channel from kbin.social before, so k-soc didn't know it existed.
It didn't exist on lemmy.ml, either, until I specifically fetched it from there.
@0x4E4F @Dirk thats a feature not a bug, unless they are single user or family only instances, they usually will let you open an account if you are. But there are others do allow open registration, like the one I have an account on, that I've never actually used, https://peertube.uno
@fuat2mb hello! Thanks for sharing the love about CryptPad! Just a small thing about that instance you are linking to: it's very much outdated, contains bugs and is misconfigured (posing security issues, look at https://cryptpad.devol.it/checkup/). For up-to-date instances we recommend checking our community public list: https://cryptpad.org/instances/. Hope this helps! ๐ @0x4E4F @Dirk
Thanks for the link ๐.
I have no intention to write to admins begging for an account. If they have open registrations, fine, if not, not signing up ๐คท.
@0x4E4F what you call "begging for an account" I call actually having a human connection putting the social back in social media.
I'd rather stay anonimous. Plus, I'd get banned for uploading NSFW things on it (most probably it's not allowed), so... I'd rather just get banned as some anon user than someone who actually wanted an account on that instance.
Whatever, I'm not even gonna open up an account to be honest, there are tons of other proprietery services that offer more or less the same thing. Might as well use them, doesn't make amy difference IMO.
@0x4E4F @Dirk remember all content requires storage to host it, and high-quality video is particularly expensive for that. peertube.uno is brought to us by the folks at https://www.devolt.it which offers a ton of these kind of services free of charge, and I'm not really sure how they afford to. (Though I might have a better idea if I actualy spoke Italian.) I first found them searching for an alternative to Google Docs and found https://cryptpad.devol.it and learned #Cryptpad is even better than GoogleDocs without the surveillance capitalism.
What about NSFW content, do they allow it?
@0x4E4F @Dirk remember all content requires storage to host it, and high quality video is particularly expensive for that. peertube.uno is brought to us by the folks at https ://devolt.it which offers a ton of these kind of services free of charge, and I'm not really sure how they afford to. I first found them looking for an alternative to Google Docs and found https://cryptpad.devol.it and learned #Cryptpad is even better than GoogleDocs without the surveillance capitalism.
Thereโs so many things wrong with the way beehaw is run that I donโt even know where to start.
They basically run it as a forum... with ActivityPub.
A CCP administrated forum! Taking inspiration straight from spez
It's funny actually... Lemmy being developed by tankies, but beehaw taking the defederation approach ๐.
Yes, socialist administration taking notes from hypercapalatist info merchants.
They defederated with multiple large lemmy instances (lemmy.world and another I donโt remember). They also did this in an asymmetric way making themselves an island whose content gets sent out into the fediverse but who doesnโt listen to updates for the content that gets sent out.
If I comment on a beehaw post as a lemmy.world user, my comment will only live on lemmy.world and not the rest of the fediverse because of what beehaw did
Iโm going to unsubscribe from my beehaw communities then. I was wondering why I was still getting updates from them. Itโs like being shadow banned.
Well yeah, but that was because of an influx of spam and not because beehaw admins have anything against lemmyworld. Afaik they are currently working out with lemmyworld's admin how to solve this situation and refederate.
Yea its pretty much the same with our instance. They defederated from us but our admins and their admins are chill and want to eventually refederate.
At this point, I don't even care, I unsubscribed from all beehaw communities.
Smart to do until there's a re-federation, you would only see the local content there.
Yeah, but who's fault was it that beehaw got swarmed with users. Everyone on beehaw that also had reddit accounts wrote "come over to Lemmy, sign up on beehaw ๐"... why would I even suggest that if it doesn't matter on which instance users signed up, they can all still see the same content posted on the fediverse. Unless you defederate that is, then yeah... but that just means that they were planning on running it like a forum and defederate from the start, then just use the influx as an excuse.
Why are people so upset about Beehaw being quite exclusionary?
When I first learned about the Fediverse part of the appeal was that some instances would be open, some would be more exclusive, and that was part of the appeal. Don't like how open/exclusionary one is? Then leave and go to a different one.
Defederation is a feature of the Fediverse, and using it isn't some big crime.
Defederation was meant as a last measure to block instances like gab.ai or truth social. Not to block content the Moderators may not like. At the end it should be the users choice what content they enjoy. Large instances blocking each other betrays the whole idea, the dream that we can all communicate. This is, at its core, Gmail blocking Outlook users to send mails to Gmail users because Outlook allows X, Y and Z and its just insanity.
The point of federation is for all of us to be connected. Defederating hurts that goal.
I agree. We should be able to federate and defederate who and when we want. If you really can't find any sever that fits your needs, there's always personal instances and starting your own server.
I think it's especially strange since the admins of beehaw have stated that ideally its only temporary.
Its not unreasonable that they are waiting for better mod tools.
LOL ๐คฃ
What's ActivityPub?
It's a protocol that fediverse platforms, such as Lemmy, KBin, Mastodon and PeerTube use. Basically, it's how all of the different instances and platforms find one another in the fediverse, how they federate.
Ooh awesome thank you!
They don't actually, do they?
No, it's just an instance, but defederated from some of the largest instances, thus, the joke, they being their own platform.
Lemmy and beehaw are the same software, different servers.
That's the joke. They defederate from everyone, thus effectively making it their own platform.
Beehaw is just a lemmy instance. I'd replacde it with pixelfed
Whooosssh, beehaw being there is the joke. They see themselves as better than other Lemmy instances and have defederated some other large instances
Except isn't the truth that they experienced harassment from other open-registration instances and in lack of better moderation tools chose to defederate for the time being?
Thatโs what they said but there wasnโt much harassment, mainly they were preempting this.
How do you know there wasn't much harassment?
They don't.
Beehaw defederate almost 400 other instances, do they immediately defed if one or two users harass them?
https://github.com/maltfield/awesome-lemmy-instances
At some point they stopped playing whack-a-mole and imported some blocklist for Mastodon
What in the AF ๐.
Why not just run a forum, why choose Lemmy...
I bet they were waiting to fill with users after the migration and just close shop...
Mod logs
The moderation activity has increased exponentially the last few weeks, what do you mean specifically?
You can find this information for yourself by searching Lemmy. Canโt be arsed with this back and forth when the information is freely available, the mod logs prior to the defederation shows no mass user ban on their instance. Which is what you would expect to see to justify the defederation. They also said they were defederating because of the fact Lemmy.world and sh.itjustworks didnt require email verification on sign up.
Way to kill a joke.
Good day to you, adieu
My thoughts as well.. I mean, come on, how much harrasement can you get on a platform that has just begun filling with users and barely has 10K users... we'd have to all be in on it, like "hey, everyone, let's fuck with beehaw, he he he ๐".
We need a r/whoooosh on lemmy
![email protected]
Why does it only have 2 O's? Whoooosh normaly has 4
r/woosh was made on 2009
r/woooosh was made in 2016
Ok