Newest "anti-woke" tantrum: Right-wingers don't think kids of different races can be friends
Salon.com
https://www.salon.com/2023/08/14/newest-anti-woke-tantrum-right-wingers-dont-think-kids-of-different-races-can-be-friends/Open linkView original on lemmy.world398
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Do we need to send in the national guard to integrate our playgrounds now? How do people see the concept of friendship as a threat to their way of life? That's your fellow American and a human being, not your enemy.
They started by slaughtering a whole race, then enslaving another.
They can’t back down now.
Seems like we need explicit notes in history class for which things are being taught in order to try and prevent them from continuing or happening again. These "mama bears" obviously missed the point.
That'd be too close to critical race theory
... you, uh, new here? They never thought interracial friendships should be tolerated. And yes. They've thrown tantrums about it. (see.... the whole civil rights movement era..)
Never in history have conservatives been the good guys. Why would they start now?
There is a bit of truth in that title
So what you’re saying is right wingers are hateful racists? Huh
This is not a winning strategy.
It is for Republican primaries, and 222 House general elections.
Wow. That is an insane level of racism if true.
But they will still quote MLK Jr.
While claiming the Democrats are the party of slavery while holding the Confederate flag and holding propaganda associated with being party of slavery.
They had a dream, a dream where all children are created sperate, but equal.
My kids best friend in kindergarten was a black kid. Unfortunately they didnt end up on the same school.
Ive seen no black kids around my sons age at his current school
(We live in Denmark. Black population is only 2% or something)
Denmark in the house. Glad to have your input. Americans need views from the rest of the world. Can I shave a citizenship?
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So who are my mixed race kids supposed to be friends with?
Themselves?
They would hate me.
Pre Antebellum Republicans strike again
From the person complaining:
Source
Not a good argument at all- but she clearly didn't say kids of different races couldn't be friends.
That's a very surface level reading.
What do you mean?
"When another trustee asked Dungan if she personally objected to an illustration of cross-racial friendship, she demurred, simply declaring that she was just trying to avoid "situations like that." Situations like what, exactly? She didn't say."
I assume situations like with the child- but I agree I can't image they are anywhere near frequent
Are you being purposely obtuse?
No?
So the child was uncomfortable because they don't believe people of different color should hold hands?
According to the official
Ah...missed that bit.
they would have been forced to teach about segregation and racism.
That could be why, idk. But I don't think that would be the child's motive. But the story could also just be manufactured by the official.
I was not assigning a motive to the child. I was figuring out why the school could not defend the poster.
The child asked why they might have not felt included, which leads to the followup questions about who was excluded and why.
And the answers are slavery, racism, and segregation.
well that's just not smart.
Hey uh, you guys don't actually trust an article from Salon do you?
From what I remember, those are the lefties that say if you're black you're forever oppressed and you're incapable of following your dreams cause of your race and that's why you should be babysitted and put above others, cause you're supposedly incapable cause you were born a different race.
This article really sucks lol. Can we not generalize people based on a woman who said she doesn't like progressive posters?
The whole scope of behavior by the American right tells us that the majority of them are racists, not "just one lady who doesn't like progressive posters." Also, it's pretty clear you didn't read the article, just the headline.
The majority of people who identify with "the right" are racist? I hope you have a source because it's not in the article.
Just getting tired of blanket statements from militant teens, telling all other impressionable teens how to think.
Stupidity like racial intolerance needs to be combated with systematic changes like education. Not by circlejerking with like minded people who don't offer any criticism to the parties they think they hate so much.
To quote another comment
"The lady is part of a large, well funded, national movement of white christian nationalist women orchestrating school board take overs. "
Sure, just as long as we don't institute policies that make some single woman's opinion about a decoration in a classroom into a thing that has to be examined in detail by teachers and administrators.
But whoops, that's what Florida has already done...created a bloated, forced Karen-based bureaucracy in education.
Lol funny how the media needs to pretend that some random nobody represents the entire right.
Except it's not some random nobody if you could read.
Just because your favorite propaganda slinger from salon pretends someone is important, it doesn't mean they are
Guess you missed the part about Chris Rufo and Moms for Liberty. That or you haven't been following these developments.
You'll probably get down voted, but you're right and it's both sides. It's news marketing and it should be illegal. They just find controversial Twitter posts and act like it's a rule of law.
Kinda like Elon musk and Zuckerbergs fight... That shits just modern gorilla marketing and people are falling for it. Marketing/popculture sucks.
Both of you didn't ready the article. The lady is part of a large, well funded, national movement of white christian nationalist women orchestrating school board take overs.
Did we need another post about this? there's already one that was posted with the same link
If you have 10 people and 1 Nazi sitting at a dinner table and willingly eating together, you have 11 Nazis. You vote for Nazis. You are complicit. I don't care if you don't want to vote for Nazis. You vote for Nazis anyway. No one is forcing you to vote for Nazis.
When right-wingers clean their own house then, and only then, may I reconsider my opinions. If you are a friend to a rasicist (etc), support them, invite then to parties, vote with them then I see no difference.
Many are not. The ones that vote based on economic policy aren't exactly inviting the KKK/MTG types over for barbecues.
I'm not exactly a right winger myself, so I don't really know. My point is that conservatism is not the same as evangelical Christian fundamentalism, and that all groups have people with honest, if possibly mistaken, intentions and plain bad actors.
They may not have invited them but they're not trying very hard to escort them out, either.
How does one escort these people out of the "conservative" label exactly? I'm sure many feminists would like to do the same to RadFems and TERFs. And the MensLib crowd would like to distance themselves from MRAs and RedPillers (think Andrew Tate and you're not far off with that last one).
The problem is, they keep getting grouped together anyway, especially by opponents, as it makes the whole so much easier to attack, and gets so many more clicks, which is the new lifeblood of journalism, apparently.
Conservative outlets often do the same with us, by the way. They lump people that simply want equality with the crazies that want to destroy Christianity and put Caucasians in a subjugatory position in society. Yes these people exist, even if they are currently inconsequential.
For every philosophy, belief system, or school of thought, there are people who can be reasoned with, even if they are incorrect, and there are hardliners who take things too far.
See Al Franken, Anthony Weiner, Andrew Cuomo... It's pretty easy to kick people out of your party if the will is there.
The right wing crazies are in Congress.
The problem is it isn't just a party. You abolish the Republicans, the crazies will just come back as the Pants-On-Head party or somesuch. The crazies are organised, and they will organise outside of the Republican party if need be. Hell, Trump has already threatened to do so.
You do however make an excellent point about the crazies in congress, and I'm not saying we should ignore the damage they are doing. I'm just saying not everyone in the conservative sphere is a certified MAGAt, even if the latter does have big numbers.
If your still in the conservative sphere post maga. You own it. You are maga. There is no separation. Maga isn't antifa where it's a decentralized unaligned group of protestors, maga is in the halls of power, it's passing laws, the people you vote into office are voting yes.
There is no distinction and won't be one for half a century at least.
Ah yea, the economic policy ones too selfish and self centered to care what happens to LGBT people or little girls who were raped.
How redeeming of those people to align themselves so readily with the racists, misogynists, and xenophobes just to back up failed economic policy.
You know, I hear you on this one, and I agree we should be understanding of people who vote one way or the other - but that doesn't mean we should tolerate it. Often when I've had conversations with Trump voters, a lot of their opinions are based on ignorance or distortions of the truth, and it's because they've been sucked into a media ecosystem that is purpose-built to feed those distortions to them. A lot of them are working class folks who want to see Trump stick up for the working class and I'm over here like "why would he ever fucking do that have you ever listened to the guy talk what the fuck?" But it simply isn't obvious to a lot of people. I've tried a lot of different approaches with varying levels of success, but I think the most important things are to be open to difficult conversations, to know what you believe and why, and to hold your ground, with a smile of course.
And yet something like 30% of eligible Americans voted for trump- and while a substantial number of republicans didn’t vote for trump but did vote down ballot… the vast majority of voting republicans did.
You’d be more persuasive if ya’ll didn’t vote for trump or the assholes like him.
Or even just came out and criticized them to their faces… and not inside the “librul echo chamber”; where it’s safe.
Silence is complicity.
You cannot be silent and not at least partly to blame.
That has not been the impression they give me when I've had disagreements with the right wing people who I know. If you bring up any of the horrible shit the people they support do, they'll just shrug and say "well, I can't vote for x, they're a Democrat. It's not really a big deal anyways"
I'm also curious what you think racism is. I know a lot of racist Democrats, too.
I think this is naive. That sentiment is collectivistic. Right wing politics is vehemetly individualistic. They'd just call you a communist and ignore anything you'd have to say. They don't want to solve problems, they want only their problems to be solved.
are you a communist? serious question
I don't think so, I don't identify as one, at least. I consider myself a leftist.
I believe in collectivism, but I oppose authoritarianism.
Trump has consistently polled a majority of Republican voters for years now, so your claim is completely baseless.
They can just not vote but they do vote and they vote for the degenerates so that... They get lower taxes? Is that what they are selling their souls for?
Fuck, I don't know. All the right-leaning individuals that I know, mainly my blood family, are bigoted in many ways. This shit is really obvious to be as a queer person.
People say "not all right-wingers" but like... It basically is. And even if they may not personally be bigoted, they still end up supporting parties or systems that are.
The actual open minded right-wingers end up being more left-leaning once they realize the failures of right-wing ideology.
This argument is bunk, being too selfish and self centered to care what happens to girls like this is not a redeeming quality.
“Go out there and meet some people.”
I have, thanks. Conservatives are a scourge on this country. Small-minded, bigoted people.
Then they should stop voting for racist assholes.