Elon Musk’s lawyers claim he ‘does not use a computer’
The claim appeared in a court filing related to Elon Musk’s ongoing lawsuit against Sam Altman and OpenAI. The Tesla and xAI owner has posted about his laptop numerous times in the past year.
[...] However, Musk has posted pictures or referred to his laptop on X several times in recent months, and public evidence suggests that he owns and appears to use at least one computer. [...]
Archived: https://archive.is/5Bg9m
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Doesn't this guy regularly stream from a laptop in a desperate attempt to seem cool?
He has streamed path of exile 2 which is pc-only.
this argument from his lawyer is probably going to twist the English language beyond obscene
"What's a computer?"
Ah, the Jordan Peterson defense. "That depends on your definition of 'have', 'used', 'a', and 'computer'."
God damnit I read this in his dumb voice
Why not use the Clinton defence "That depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is."
Which gets made fun of a lot but it's not as vapid as it sounds. He said "There's nothing going on" with Monica Lewinsky because, at the time he was asked, there wasn't. He was accused of lying, and that was his defense, because interpreting "is" in the typical sense of referring to the present tense made his statement accurate.
I am https://youtu.be/RH1ekuvSYzE
What's a computer?
But I thought that everythings computer?
I was thinking it would be more about “use.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBK3zME1aqk
🎶
He streamed himself playing a hardcore character that his minions sank hours into and proved he knows nothing about playing the game. So maybe it wasn't his laptop either.
https://youtu.be/FmEe3eUPWq4
Not just hours. Like 80 hour weeks to get to that rank.
It also died while he was live streaming nazi support to the AFD in Germany. So he was clearly not playing then
No its not, I play it on PS5.
Extremely desperate
Maybe he used a public library PC?
(/s, obviously)
He's and RoG Ally handheld kind if guy
Gosh, that is beautiful notation! I'll be using it if you don't mind! Have a great day.
Only Elon Musk could get cyberbullied on a wireless Abacus playing ARPGs in the sky.
He live streamed himself playing path of exile 2 from his private jet.
On an account that he paid someone to grind up
In this stream he kept failing on the tutorial boss, so I dont think it was his competency stand-in.
You'd think he'd pay someone better to play
He sat in front of a screen while his stunt double played.
Then his stunt double sucks at the game too.
He doesn't use computers in the same way he doesn't abuse ketamine.
Hold on now! He posted those clean drug tests from his computer the other day. Clearly he would not lie about his drug tests!
Psh, no way Musk could afford to fake a drug test. Fake urine costs like $30!
That should be pretty easy to disprove with all of his path of exile streams.
He’s paying someone e else to do those. Except for the ones where he sucks.
I'd love to see him say under oath that he paid someone to play his game for him.
And someone in the courthouse trolling him for it.
Hasn't he already admitted to this while not under oath?
I would love for him to admit that in court to try and prove he doesn't use a computer.
Which is exactly what the other side pointed out
So are we not doing perjury anymore?
In America, perjury is inversely proportional to your financial value.
Well we all knew he wasn't the one playing the path of exile
He was using Neuralink and is playing with 1% of his brain capacity at all times. Trust.
You can't tweet without a computer. It may be a mobile one, but even that is a computer. This is a stupid claim which could only fool an idiot.
So depending on the judge, we'll just see what happens...
Most people draw a distinction between a phone/tablet vs a desktop/laptop. It's not a distinction that can be easily defined, but most people instinctively categorize them as such.
But regardless, the issue at hand has nothing to do with that definition. The discovery process requires them to process any applicable devices that might have info, potentially including all of the above (and more). His team said they already did his phone, but that the laptop in question is not used by him. His opponents say that he has not complied with the requirements of discovery.
The judge will rule on whether that laptop is included in the discovery order.
A particularly fancy drainage pipe is a computer. I think its reasonable to make the distinction that a phone /= computer for the sake of normal definitions.
At which point does it become a computer? Raspberry is smaller than a phone. Steam deck feels like a phone, but runs linux. My old PDA that looks like a smartphone is definitely by definition a pocket computer. If I can make calls with my PC, is it by definition my phone?
How many batteries do you need to push into a power bank for it to be defined as a power station? I'll shut up now.
A liar's lying lawyers lying? Inconceivable!
The lawyers are taking a big risk to their licenses for lying to the court.
They clearly have no idea what a computer is.
You mean the amount of bribery makes them have "no active memory" of Elon using a computer
All Tesla cars have computers inside.
"It's all computer"
Didnt he have a big thing about getting bigger monitors in the white house so he could game?
Meh, doesn’t use his brain either.
Does he even possess one?
I bet he's got at least one, in a jar or something.
hey leave us organ collectors out of this
Doesn't use his brain either.
A phone is a computer
This just struck me, this is the key. They can argue that a phone is traditionally thought of as a phone. Even though technically it’s a computer, in common parlance it is called a phone. Then by extension, he wasn’t streaming on a computer, he was streaming on a laptop. So they will argue a computer is desktop.
They'll argue that a computer is a woman who performs calculations and since slavery is illegal he doesn't own one.
As opposed to those digital computers that we use and have everywhere.
Those aren't computers! They're PCs! And that doesn't stand for anything.
So, Elon, you said that you totally legit play PoE 2, but you also said you didn't use computers. So which is it?
Which is it, Elon?
It's all computer.
Except in the cases that might evidence the crimes. Then it's no computer!
Disbar these lawyers. Disgraceful.
"cannot" or "does not"
Shan't not
Maybe he means like one of those women at NASA.
All ridiculouness aside like him showing videos of him playing games, I was gonna be like, how do you suppose he sends emails or writes his posts on X?
But they counted his phone as something separate to a computer.
He doesn't use drugs either
So many comments from people who, if they read the article, would realize that the article already said that.
Sorry, I forgot this was a thing with Wired articles (I don't read regularly enough for it to usually be a problem) - I'll add an archive link to the OP
Fair enough. I just Reader Mode it.
I am shocked I tell you, shocked. Well, not that shocked.
Depends on your definition of a "computer". A shitty laptop surely doesn't count, even less so if it runs Windows.
A shitty laptop is a computer.
What kind of mental gymnastics are you trying to use here?
Do you need help with understanding what a computer is? It isn’t a hard concept to understand.