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lemmy.ml

No idea why people use and recommend Brave when Firefox exists. It's full of crypto and other unnecessary add-ons out of the box.

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Oh, from your link, I thought you were referring to him being the CEO of Mozilla 9 years ago, and that was a reason why you wouldn't use Firefox. I didn't realize that he moved from Mozilla to start Brave Software after that.

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Flakyreply
iusearchlinux.fyi

Firefox still doesn't have vertical tabs which I've found really useful for my workflow right now, so I use a fork called Pulse. Don't want to use any extensions for it when Pulse and other forks do it natively.

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ferralcatreply
monyet.cc

There's a million add-ons that add this, isn't there? I have one installed at home that basically makes it into what arc has

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Probably, but between the disabling of userChrome.css (even if you can enable it via about:config) and a possible conflict between other addons I use, I'm comfy with my Pulse setup.

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feddit.it

sorry, why not tree style tabs?

you can hide the normal tab bar and only have the tree style ones on the side

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I explain it in another comment, tl;dr: have to edit userChrome.css to give it a more streamlined look (and Mozilla calls that feature "legacy" in about:config since v69 which kinda worries me about that feature's removal) and I'm not sure if some extensions might conflict (Would it have issues with Simple Tab Groups). Pulse does it natively and really well, so I'm happy with it.

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dejfreply
kbin.social

I know it's most likely not relevant with you anymore, since you're using Pulse, but have you tried any of the vertical/tree tab extensions?

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I used Tree Style Tab but I didn't like having to change the userChrome.css to make it streamlined (i.e. hiding the tab bar), while Pulse does it natively and really well. I do have an extension for tab groups that imitates Vivaldi's tab workspaces though, not sure if those will conflict. (If you're curious, it's called Simple Tab Groups.)

Edit: There's also the issue of Mozilla calling the editable userChrome.css a legacy feature, which kinda worries me about its possible removal. Pulse having vertical tabs as a native feature skips that.

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Brave has marketed itself more aggressively than Firefox did.

Additionally, Firefox' most devoted userbase can be quite bitter at times.

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Stillreply
programming.dev

that is because all browsers on iOS are basically safari cuz Apple doesn't allow fun

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lemmy.world

Orion apparently allows extensions like uBlock Origin. Not sure if anyone has put it to the test but superficially, its there. Hard to tell where Orion ends and uBlock Origin begins since it seems adept at dealing with fingerprinting and other niceties by itself

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ferralcatreply
monyet.cc

You can't download and run code on iOS, which is pretty much the definition of an extension. You could ship some extensions "with" your browser, but at that point they're just a feature. iOS has adblocking addons at the system level though, doesn't it?

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Ya, the extension aspects of iOS are a headache in terms of understanding everything. I look forward to liberalisation of 3rd party browsers allowed and any consequent innovation on mobile browsing.

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relyma.club

Says it comes with unnecessary add-ons Comes with 0 unnecessary add-ons

Bravephobes are now just making shit up Lol

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const_voidreply
lemmy.ml
  • Brave Rewards
  • Brave Talk
  • Brave Search
  • Brave News
  • Brave Wallet

Yeah, such a light and lean browser...

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relyma.club

All of that Firefox has its equivalents as well as some of that being untrue as they're search engines not websites etc

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lemmy.ml

Brave has adware and bloat preinstalled, firefox doesn't even have something similar to this.

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ReakDuckreply
lemmy.ml

Why are you gaslighting so hard. Just lookup what adware is. It has literally preinstalled crypto marketing widget that you need to disable or smth and also provide a opt-in ads for crypto solution that has opt-out "Gift the tokens to the page that has no wallet"

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When one makes a claim like that when nothing indicated such things, its accepted in the community of behavioral analysis that it was a projection. Bravephobes love making shit up Lol

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relyma.club

BR = Ads like all browsers except off by default and it pays you

BT = Nothing, not part of the browser

BS = That's just a fucking search engine. What browser doesn't come with one Lol

BW = FF also has "bloat" like phishing protection except the wallet is actually useful and isn't just a censorship tool

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he be sounding like a paranoid government leader fr lmao. i always love seeing brave simps seethe

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What even is that font? I've seen it before but can't place it.

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Just yesterday I was searching for photos in Brave. Right from the outset without clicking on anything, there was a huge, unclosable banner taking up a third of the screen that was an ad for Etsy or something. I tried to go to settings to change it to how it was before, but I was confronted with another ad in the settings:

“Want ad-free search results? Upgrade to Search Premium™ today!”

Time to finally make that switch to Firefox, I guess.

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Poor font forces concentration and consideration from the reader.

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They should've done what they did with the YouTube ads and told the user to block this ad using their browser as well.

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lemmy.world

The other big irony is that if google gets rid of ad blockers on chromium browsers, brave is chromium

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Brave actually doesn’t take all of Chromium’s new code. They write patches that modify what gets brought in or used, which allows them to avoid bringing in changes they don’t like.

More info here: https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/10742158329613-What-does-Brave-remove-from-the-Chromium-engine-

See also https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/wiki/Patching-Chromium

I don’t know how extensive Brave’s changes are, but it would definitely be easy for them to add their own ad blocker. On the other hand, changes like re-enabling the entire APIs that were taken away from extensions would likely be out of scope.

It’s an interesting process but I’d personally rather just use Firefox

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lemmy.world

Correct me if I'm wrong but, I think Brave Ads are opt-in. I have brave installed (although I use Librewolf as my main browser) and I've never seen an ad, you just need to disable them from the settings. Ads are just for those who want to earn BAT (the weird crypto token) by seeing ads.

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I can assure you the BAT token (Brave Rewards) is disabled here. And which other settings are you referring to?

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