Florida Republican who almost died from ectopic pregnancy blames Democrats, not abortion ban
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You can't fix stupid.
Nature almost did.
Unfortunately, stupid breeds too fast for nature to fix it.
"stupid"...
Or slaveringly subservient and brainwashed in the cult of your "Orange God" of choice...
Never mind. In retrospect, same thing.
Wonder what was different about her abortion.
She's in the elite ruling class, so she gets to do whatever the fuck she wants with impunity while projecting false accusations onto anyone who fits in the 'other' category while her dumbass base of uneducated gerrymandered trolls eats it up.
Twenty five years old and still just as relevant as ever.
https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/
In all seriousness: it was an ectopic pregnancy, 5 weeks along. Technically legal to perform under Florida law, so in theory it shouldn't have been a problem to have it done even under current law.
To be clear, none of this is meant to be an enforcement of that law, any other laws about abortion on the books, or the anti-abortion movement in general. I can absolutely understand providers being skittish about anything even remotely borderline with these laws in place, just trying to get the basic facts into the comments because good arguments are worthless if it's about incorrect facts
If it's a matter of days you could probably just lie about the timing of your last period. Those weeks are calculated from the date of your last period, not from the date of conception, so as long as you're the only one who knows your cycle you could probably lie a little bit.
Which also makes a 5 week deadline more insane than most people realize. Given a steady 4 week cycle, you have 1 week to realize your period is late, schedule and perform an abortion. A lot of people do not have a steady cycle, and those may very well not notice until it's too late, even if they track their cycle.
Cruelty by design.
The people who are setting the rules are VERY aware of ALL of that.
And is there any medical proof that can stand up to brainworm addled pseudoscience in court ? Would you bet your career and your freedom on that?
American doctors should go on strike.
It was hers, as opposed to someone else's.
SHE needed one. That's the only reason. The answer was No for everyone else, but Yes for her. Nobody can kill babies but her.
This is like someone dying from COVID denying it on their deathbed.
You can't fix stupid.
My friend is a doctor and said that the number of people denying COVID is real while they died in the hospital is... significantly higher than 0.
It blew my mind that they could literally be hours away from death and still submitted it was a "liberal hoax". I just...can't.
Evolution in action. Still sad.
my colleague was one of these. We held a socially distanced ceremony at the office for him. Fucking bleak as hell.
I remember seeing something about a person telling the doctor to go to hell as they were being intubated and just thinking, "No, that'd be you."
This is why The Onion is so hard to differentiate from reality any more.
Should see the stuff I post in Not the Onion.
I dare not.
Fair enough. xD
The mere idea that anyone has to perform a medical procedure on a pregnant woman relating to the pregnancy and hesitates, proves that the law is the issue.
Someone will undoubtedly try to get a bill passed somewhere that starts labeling any removal of a fetus from a woman as abortion when the medical community is telling you that is not the case. These anti-abortion supporters want woman to get pregnant and stay pregnant. They don’t care if you have medical complications that lead to death. To think they care is just a lost cause.
Perfectly valid, until one of those that are making the rules and sentencing women to death by pregnancy are suddenly faced with it themselves. Then the hypocrisy starts.
Now that gets into Brave New World territory. They didn’t make it illegal (at least that I recall)… but it was a taboo to be part of a family. Some point in British society started using eugenics to create humans. Sexual promiscuity was expected among women (they hinted that monogamy was also taboo) but becoming a parent was no go.
EDIT: I wouldn’t recommend Brave New World. Huxley falls in line with contemporary beliefs about indigenous Americans that is downright racist today.
THIS. She's dug herself into a hole and can't dig out. Only choice is to dig deeper and fuck everyone else.
I read the WSJ article and she is absolutely infuriating. Her reasoning contains several fallacies:
False Cause:
She blames political messaging instead of considering that vague legal language created legitimate professional uncertainty.
Straw Man:
This is particularly frustrating. Advocates aren't celebrating her needing an "abortion", they're pointing out her experience is exactly what they predicted: doctors hesitating due to legal uncertainty. She had to argue with staff, pull up laws on her phone, and call the governor's office during a medical emergency. That's the system breakdown advocates warned about, not a misunderstanding of medical definitions.
False Dilemma:
This drastically oversimplifies complex healthcare policy into just two opposing sides and the irony is staggering. It's like a company ignoring safety advocates' warnings about a confusing manual, then when accidents happen, blaming those advocates for 'scaring' workers instead of fixing the manual.
She lived the very scenario abortion rights advocates had been warning about all along, yet somehow, in her mind, the problem isn’t the law, it’s the people who tried to stop it from hurting her in the first place.
This really is a great example of being a special kind of stupid.
Ableist slurs are against policy.
She should have stood by her religious and political principles, and just rode it out. It was God's, and MAGA's, will to put her through that ordeal, and he expected her to accept her fate.
Instead, she defied The MAGA Lord and fought to have a Democratic abortion. She's a Democrat now, destined for an eternity in a fiery torturous Hell. May God have mercy on her damned Democratic Soul.
/S, nobody really believes that nonsense.
As someone raised by conservatives, they absolutely do believe such nonsense. Remove the sarcasm, and you sound exactly like my dad.
I didn’t realize there were pro-lifers that accepted “it’s not an abortion if the fetus wasn’t going to be viable”. You could pretty easily extend that to full term. Hell with medical debt, I don’t see how there’s much chance in a lot of cases even post partum.
Honestly wish they'd have let her die and made it clear to her it was on behalf of what she fought for. Bitch doesn't deserve to doom so many women and live despite being a would-be victim of her own evil.
Her medical documents did in fact say abortion, she had an abortion. Use whatever mental gymnastics she wants, but factually - She had an abortion, the very thing they have and are wanting to ban.
Any person with even the smallest spark in their brain going through this can figure this out.
There are thousand of abortions performed every day on people who want to be a parent more than anything in the world, people going through IVF and fertility treatments have a high chance of ectopic pregnancies. If you actually understand this, it's obvious how insane she is.
Tonight @ 9: Conservative blames anyone or anything except themselves for their problems.
Stupid bitch doesn't know what she's talking about. Film at 11!
Delusional
Cult members will never blame their beliefs, they'll just perform mental gymnastics to blame critics.
I take pleasure in her pain hurting her own cause
Blame democrats, blame democrats, there not even a real party anyway.
I have to wonder if the Doctors weren't trolling her a bit. She had an ectopic pregnancy at 5 weeks. Not only is the abortion necessary, it was within the six-week limit, so it was perfectly legal on all counts. So why would they claim they were confused about the law?
I suspect they wanted to teach an arrogant Florida Republican a lesson about politics encroaching on the medical decisions between a doctor and their patient, and made her jump through a bunch of hoops first, just to make her feel the fear, anxiety, anger, and frustration of the average citizen whose medical care is being dictated by MAGA Nazis.
Remember, we are only hearing the side of a professional MAGA Nazi, so she's a proven liar.
That would have some significant medical ethics issues. She nearly died. Do no harm, and that's regardless of the patient's political ideology.
The 5 weeks pregnant vs 6 week ban is a bit more ambiguous than you might think.
The Florida 6 week ban calculates the 6 weeks from the first day of the last menstrual period, not from fetal size or date of conception. https://abortiondefensenetwork.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Florida-April-2025-2-1.pdf
In general, ovulation occurs 12-17 days into the menstrual cycle. Florida's ban is more like a 3 to 4 week ban than a 6 week.
Edit: spelled ban as can once
"roughly five weeks"
Since weeks are counted from the beginning of her last period, not conception, this operation must have happened within one week of her missed period. Perhaps it wasn't so clearly within the law.
I'm not really sure it's a "news flash" that these people aren't particularly "sharp".
It's a shame she didn't die. Or at the very least learn something from this experience.
should have died.
My cousin died of that. I still remember her face in the casket. So unrecognizable due to all the pregnancy bloating. She was such a beautiful woman. Her kids are doing good by her but ectopic pregnancies are nothing to laugh at. You as the pregnant person are given a choice, do you want to stay a live or have the baby. Then you go under. My cousin never woke up. I highly doubt that she would be smiling holding the baby clothes if the baby had died. And she knew of this too late to abort and too early in the pregnancy to not realize she was going to die. Imagine knowing the exact time, place and reason for your death and not actually be able to prevent it.
I’m not following. Ectopic pregnancies are not viable. Ever.
Yup. Might as well be a pregnancy in the balls... Biology just doesn't care about fan fics
She's somewhat got a point still
Democrats have become complacent in letting the repub's hysteria spread like a bad virus.
We got no one left to blame but ourselves atp, right?
No. You're the exact opposite of right. Also the exact opposite of smart.
I didn't claim to be smart, but I'm also not seeing anyone spell out how I'm wrong either.
“It’s not my fault for spreading misinformation, hysteria, and making overt moves to oppress others. It’s your fault for not stopping me.”
Validating and correcting information takes time, research, and evidence. Spewing garbage only requires a mouth and optional amplification.
Bullshit is impossible to stop this way because it travels faster than the corrections. By the time the crap is addressed, there are people who will still believe it in the face of evidence and in defiance of reality, and in the meantime, six more pieces of bullshit to debunk have popped up.
I know I'm messing this quote up, but "A lie can travel around the world a half dozen times before the truth finishes tying its shoes."
Worst of all, the people that need to hear the debunking live in a right-wing media universe where they'll never hear an honest take on it, or never hear about it at all.
The Conservative Propaganda Machine is real, deliberate, and highly effective.
So, basically you're saying is that you're right by default because no one is willing to challenge your opinion? The reality is that it's easier to just down vote such nonsense then attempt to address it.
I don't think that's what I'm 'basically saying' I was just highlighting that if I'm wrong, no one has made it known to me or others specifically why I'm wrong or on what grounds. This has been a fun experiment to see what insults and downvotes can be hurled over a lot of nothing.
Trying to put yourself above others by claiming all of this was some sort of elaborate "joke" really is not good look for you.
Apologies, but we are temporary text passed via electrons--I promise I didn't intend to position myself above others as a joke. I don't know who's worried about how they look on the fediverse, but that would be kinda silly, wouldn't you agree?
At no point is one group accountable for another group's actions in cases like this.
How's that?
Because she's blaming the other side for the immoral policies she supports, and you are validating it.
It's like blaming the victim of an abuser because they should have listened better, and done what they were told.
Democrats are under no obligation to make things easier for MAGA policies that oppress citizens.
"it's not your fault Lisa. I shouldn't have let you let me get so carried away"
"LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!". /S