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Putin says 'all of Ukraine is ours' as he eyes Sumy city

Vladimir Putin has revived a controversial narrative, claiming that theoretically "all of Ukraine is ours." He also sparked more immediate concerns with comments about seizing Ukraine's city of Sumy.

Vladimir Putin has declared that Russians and Ukrainians are "one people" and that, in that sense, "all of Ukraine is ours."

The assertion underscores Moscow's continued underlying rejection of Ukrainian sovereignty and raises renewed alarm over Russia's territorial ambitions.

Speaking at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum on Friday, Putin issued a series of provocative remarks, notably stating: "We have a saying… where the foot of a Russian soldier steps, that is ours."

Putin says 'all of Ukraine is ours' as he eyes Sumy cityhttps://www.dw.com/en/putin-says-all-of-ukraine-is-ours-as-he-eyes-sumy-city/a-72990253Open linkView original on lemmy.world

If he really believes the two countries should be united, he could always decide to surrender to Ukraine and give Ukraine control over Russia. I'm sure Ukraine would do a better job of governing Russia than Putin has done.

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wewbullreply
feddit.uk

I think it's a very heavy makeup line. His actual skin colour is what you see under his hair.

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feddit.org

And there it is. Finally out in the open, by the asshole-in-chief himself. "Denazification"? "Caring for the Russian minority in Ukraine"? Ha, as if. All this bullshit has ever been is to quiesce one man's megalomania.

From the deepest depths of my heart I say: Fuck you, you fucking prick, fuck your propaganda machine, and fuck your sycophantic bootlickers.

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lemmy.world

I thought it was because of Nazis. Or because of NATO. Or because of .

Not because of .

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If they are one people, then all of Russia is also Ukraine. And I happen to think Zelenskyy is a more legitimate leader.

I wonder if there's a localized zone where there is some sort of really great density of people who consider themselves Ukrainians. And I wonder if there exists some distinguishable boundary between them - culturally, societally, dare I say politically - where on one side an individual would expect to encounter a Ukrainian, versus on the other side, where they would more probably expect to encounter a non-Ukrainian?

Edit: Maybe an edge? A ridge? Something that describes a clearly defined boundary between two distinct areas that are closely related in many regards while also being clearly distinguishable based on the split that defines the division between said areas...

Edit again: I swear it's on the tip of my tongue. So frustrating. A line, maybe? That seems closer, but not quite there.

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europe.pub

And you still have a lot of people saying that if we just traded more with Russia and didn't add countries to NATO, this wouldn't have happened.

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Miaoureply

That's... Neither wrong, nor related to this article? Unless you have a crystal ball somewhere, that is?

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"We have a saying… where the foot of a Russian soldier steps, that is ours."

So, Putin is saying everyone should fire upon Russian forces everywhere outside Russia with no hesitation or questions asked?

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lemmy.ml

I think it's high time Finland retakes Karelia, on account of how thinly stretched Russia must be at this point.

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How about no? That would be a political and economic disaster. That is, unless the Finns would somehow be ok with ethnically cleansing the russians and converting the while area to a nature reserve.

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That clearly shows, which value any negotiation with Putin have: none, none at all

He wants Ukraine to, all of it. No matter what.

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Even worse, negotiations have negative value since master of negotiations, the Orange himself, started his 24hrs peace plan.

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From the Wikipedia article on Russia's playbook: "Foundations of Geopolitics"

Ukraine (except Western Ukraine) should be annexed by Russia because "Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning, no particular cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness, its certain territorial ambitions represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics". Ukraine should not be allowed to remain independent, unless it is cordon sanitaire, which would be inadmissible according to Western political standards. As mentioned, Western Ukraine (comprising the regions of Volynia, Galicia, and Transcarpathia), considering its Catholic-majority population, are permitted to form an independent federation of Western Ukraine but should not be under Atlanticist control.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

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lemmy.world

Except nobody attacked russia. Just a tiny detail that, you know, breaks the whole ruzzian argument.

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Ukraine didn't attack russia as a response to russia agression? Palestinian has the right to defend itself and fight occupation. Israel attacked first in 67 and kept killing people, steal their homes since 48

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awful.systems

Is it just me or has the number of lunatics on Lemmy really spiked in the past week? I mean, look at this guy... Or have we "finally" been discovered by the disinformation bots?

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There may have been a small uptick overall, but that one is disproportionately insane, I think

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You reached the end