Spyke
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Why the fuck are they allowing them to put shit like this into a so-called budget bill?

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Noxyreply
pawb.social

Who do you mean by "they"? The nazi fucks are themselves the ones in charge.

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Stabbithareply
lemmy.world

If we read the article, we learn:

Tucked inside the 1,200-page appendix to the White House’s budget request to Congress is a proposal to eliminate a grant program, funded by the Agriculture Department and administered by the Department of Justice, that provides domestic violence shelters with money to support survivors’ pets. Advocates say the program, known as PAWS, helps fill a critical gap despite its relatively small budget of $3 million

So we see that it actually is a budget issue, nobody's issuing a directive saying animals are banned at these shelters -- the headline is misleading.

We also see that the proposed budget cut is $3 million, which works out to almost a whopping 2¢ per taxpayer in the US.

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That's not the point. The Republicans are not doing this to save money. They are doing this for ideological reasons, namely that domestic violence is fine and there shouldn't be any domestic violence shelters, because women should be subjugated to their husbands no matter what.

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I'd happily give 25 times that to help domestic abuse survivors and their pets. To put that princely sum in context: 50¢ could buy you a full-sized candy bar 30 years ago.

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Thanks for adding context and hard evidence to the discussion. Fuck them twice as much for doing it this way. It's the same amount of sabotage and half the accountability.

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pawb.social

Republicans Want to Ban Pets From Domestic Violence Shelters

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Match!!reply
pawb.social

Republicans Want to Ban Pets From Domestic Violence Shelters

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lemmy.world

A government and people that cared about protecting abused people would demand that shelters accept pets.

In my jurisdiction pets were ruled to have custody rights meanwhile the land of the free wouldn’t elect a woman and won’t stand up for each other. Enjoy your Handmaid’s Tale, stop trying to push it on other countries.

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lemmy.world

Saving 3m by hurting domestic abuse victims while blowing 45m on a fucking parade. Wonderful.

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A shitty "parade" at that. Looked like no one in the parade wanted to be there, the girightshotline aparently has been ringing off the hooks and morale very low. I'd be pissed being forced to support orange Mussolini's fever dream too.

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lemmy.world

I will bet you anything MTG has physically harmed a significant other in her time. Men can be victims too.

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lemmy.world

Id worry more avout the fact that you live in an authoritarian state, that's decided to make an enemy of.. let me check my notes.. the rest of the planet.

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Turret3857reply
infosec.pub

we're allowed to be concerned about all of the suffering and not just the major suffering.

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RaptorBennreply
lemmy.world

Yes, your allowed to do whatever, but when the house is burning down, most wouldnt stop to complain about the decor.

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Turret3857reply
infosec.pub

I would be complaining that Ive lost everything, not just the walls and windows.

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RaptorBennreply
lemmy.world

But your not, your complaining about the toaster not working while the house is burning down.

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Turret3857reply
infosec.pub

Can I not be mad about the toaster and the house at the same time? Is there something about humans that makes it so we can only care about one issue at a time?

And youre comparing people being denied the right to keep their animals (some would refer to this as "property") when they need to leave an abusive household, to a toaster.

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RaptorBennreply
lemmy.world
  1. Yes, but generally youd wait until the fire was out and a bunch of other thing before even considering that.
  2. Its a relatice comparison, if you really think what i said equates to "pets are as important as toasters", then i dont think youre qualified to have this discussion with me.
  3. I think vets should have every right to keep and maintain pets at government provided housing.
  4. Demonising me, and willfully misinterpretting me, because you disagree with what ive said, tells me there isnt any furthee productive recourse to be had with you.
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Demonizing you? I put your argument into perspective. YOU made the comparison, I pointed it out. Thats on you bud.

If you think I'm "willfully misinterpreting" you, maybe consider what you say before you say it, and consider there are real human beings being affected by the words you use. Consider that, yeah, the country is fucking burning down, and inside that country, there are 100s, maybe thousands of people with pets in domestic violence households, and you just told all those people to shove it because there are bigger issues.

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MAGAs are fucking psychopaths. They delight in cruelty, and I'll wager they're just as cruel to the people in their lives.

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You reached the end